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Ms. Toad

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44. There are at least 10 candidates, at this point.

Sun Feb 3, 2019, 02:14 AM

Feb 2019

Only one will be the nominee.

Discussing actions and positions taken by each of the candidates - and how they match with general Democratic values, or with my personal values, is not "trashing everyone who is not on the same page." It is part of a healthy discussion that is necessary to select the best candidate for the party.

The problem is that the reaction by the majority of those participating in the discussion on DU to a factual recitation of Harris's actions and positions that differ from traditional Democratic policies are being met with challenges that the facts are "bullshit," and that the assertions are being made by trolls.

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Context of the video of Kamala Harris, and her response to the truancy policy [View all] ehrnst Feb 2019 OP

thank you Evergreen Emerald Feb 2019 #1

Yes, but the feeding frenzy re: "She built her career jailing poor black parents!!" won't go away ehrnst Feb 2019 #2

Exactly! Andy823 Feb 2019 #4

Nonsense. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #9

Nonsense. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #12

My understanding is that my Senator is against the death penalty & didn't go for it. YMMV Hekate Feb 2019 #32

Nobody is perfect Andy823 Feb 2019 #43

There are at least 10 candidates, at this point. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #44

EXACTLY. I don't doubt your sincere position on the Hortensis Feb 2019 #61

Kamala Harris is against the death penalty and would not seek death penalty MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #46

Unfortunately people don't go past the sensational headlines to see what really happened. George II Feb 2019 #13

Confirmation bias is a powerful thing. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #25

No one was jailed while she was prosecutor. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #45

I live in an area that doesn't have a truancy policy like this kcr Feb 2019 #3

Exactly. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #10

Also, as seen in many abuse cases, a child who is not going to school- dawg day Feb 2019 #5

Complete anecdotal story MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #6

There are ways to address truancy, Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #11

What homeless mother of three working 2 jobs did Kamala "arrest and haul into court?" ehrnst Feb 2019 #14

The name was not disclosed, but Harris told her story in a 2010 speech. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #17

Not seeing where she was "arrested and hauled into court." ehrnst Feb 2019 #18

As a prosecutor, I am sure that Harris was using the legal meaning of the term. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #20

"Aressted and hauled into court" was not an accurate description of what happened. ehrnst Feb 2019 #23

then you are objecting to the fact there is a law against it treestar Feb 2019 #58

Not every parent strives for the best for their kids. Not every parent, parents. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #7

Apparently, "All or nothing" is equal to "ethical" now. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #8

Yes we are clever enough - which is precisely why I have concerns. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #15

It sounds very much like you are suggesting she is "bad." ehrnst Feb 2019 #16

I've summarized my concerns here - each of which I have addressed more thoroughly Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #19

I think basing one's opinons on facts is important. ehrnst Feb 2019 #21

Look up the definition of prosecution - and remember, Harris is an attorney Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #22

Look up the definition of "Upon pain of prosecution" ehrnst Feb 2019 #24

You are reading Snopes interpretation of what she said. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #28

Ms. Toad, did your school district enforce a truancy policy? Did you ever have a truant child? Hekate Feb 2019 #33

I have been an educator 16 years Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #38

So you can't support your claim that Kamala "arrested and hauled her into court." ehrnst Feb 2019 #49

I read today that not a parent went to jail. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #64

the facts and emotion argument always cracks me up. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #53

Thanks for the information. I have heard of all these, but you make it easy giving info on each. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #36

First Beto, now Kamala RandySF Feb 2019 #26

Exploring where candidates stand on issues of criminal justice Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #29

I read the opinion piece in the NYT. lapucelle Feb 2019 #31

So try doing some actual research on your own. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #35

Links? ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #37

Good Lord. I've posted numerous links already today in other posts. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #41

So your links are news articles and not analysis ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #55

Your links are primarily to a socialist monthly that many would argue is not a reliable source lapucelle Feb 2019 #60

So we're back to the "she's not perfect" standard? lapucelle Feb 2019 #39

My point is that far too many people here are insisting she is perfect - Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #42

Who here is "insisting that she's perfect?" ehrnst Feb 2019 #51

I don't see anyone "insisting she's perfect". lapucelle Feb 2019 #54

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First we have to destroy the progressive creds of Kamala before moving on to, say, Cory Booker. nt Hekate Feb 2019 #34

Why can't they just tell us who they want and tell us the positives about them? treestar Feb 2019 #59

What is hey policy NOW ?!?! uponit7771 Feb 2019 #27

On the Harris concern thread, one helpful poster offered up info on"hit pieces" lapucelle Feb 2019 #30

I've seen this sort of immediate trashing of a Dem POTUS candidate before. ehrnst Feb 2019 #52

And now others are claiming that they are merely responding with friendly warnings lapucelle Feb 2019 #56

Unbeknownst to me my school district was not enforcing a truancy policy in the early 1990s... Hekate Feb 2019 #40

Many truancy policies, even when they're enforced, don't threaten jail or fines. kcr Feb 2019 #63

Its still a really dumb idea that is punitive and again feeds into guilt and shame AND JCanete Feb 2019 #47

"Taint" "queasy." ehrnst Feb 2019 #48

interesting focus.... JCanete Feb 2019 #65

I'm tired of playing this game. n/t kacekwl Feb 2019 #57

Context is everything. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #62