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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
38. To answer your question - because the circumstances are completely different
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

If a right wing website had published a screenshot of a Facebook post alleging that a public official, unidentified by name but whose identity was obvious, had, in the past, mocked black people and hung out with people who dressed up in Klan outfits - and we found out that that person had taken that story to the Washington Post, which investigated it but declined to publish it because they could find now support for the story, it would make sense for people to say that, without more evidence, the public official should not be accused of any wrongdoing based solely on the allegation.

And I'm sure people would insist that, if only there was a photograph or other proof. And then a photo emerged of the public official named in the post wearing blackface, standing next to someone wearing a Klan outfit and that official admitted that was him in the photograph and that he had worn blackface on other occasions, anyone would be hard-pressed to continue claiming that the allegation was without merit or that the photograph proved nothing.

On the other hand, the allegation against Justin Fairfax is just that - an allegation and not even much of that at this point. The story has been investigated and found to be lacking and the woman who allegedly made the allegation has refused to come forward and say more. We have no corroboration, no details, no nothing.

Just as a quasi-anonymous allegation that Northam had done something wrong would not have been taken seriously if that's where it ended, the allegation against Fairfax is meaningless unless and until additional evidence comes forth.

Northam ADMITTED doing exactly what he has been accused of and there's a pictures to prove it. Fairfax vehemently denies doing what he is accused of and there is no evidence, so far, that he has ever behaved that way with any other woman in his life.

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The WaPo didn't do Fairfax any favors today madville Feb 2019 #1
I think we are at the point KT2000 Feb 2019 #2
+1 2naSalit Feb 2019 #5
+2 gopiscrap Feb 2019 #57
The GOP will stop at nothing. Dawson Leery Feb 2019 #71
Not odd at all. The Republicans are now stealing elections and taking Hortensis Feb 2019 #3
Not only could Washington Post not confirm, they said there were red flags. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #4
I wish being registered Democrat guaranteed she was a respectable person Hortensis Feb 2019 #8
I so wonder what the "red flags" were? Cha Feb 2019 #10
That is the exact way the the NY Post and Fox worked handed in hand to plant stories.... Historic NY Feb 2019 #80
The Washington Post did not say there were red flags. They refuted this in their article today. octoberlib Feb 2019 #18
Thanks for the information. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #45
They also said (from the same article): George II Feb 2019 #98
They did not say there were red flags melman Feb 2019 #19
Thanks for the information. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #46
No, the WA Post said they hadn't found confirmation OR red flags. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #31
actually that was fairfax representative who said red flags Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #64
Thanks for letting me know. That is them coming out calling Fairfax on that. That matters. peacefrogman Feb 2019 #82
It still doesn't make her story credible. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #83
"It still doesn't make her story credible." Nor did I say it did. Is there a competition peacefrogman Feb 2019 #84
I don't know what to say. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #6
Okay atreides1 Feb 2019 #52
????? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #70
It appears on a right-wing site, that justifies your caution. saidsimplesimon Feb 2019 #7
I smell ratfucking going on here for 2naSalit Feb 2019 #9
Zack-ly it's all ratf*ing now FakeNoose Feb 2019 #11
Doesn't anyone think it's odd that it's both men from Virginia? blueinredohio Feb 2019 #12
Not odd at all. The rightwing is very successful at teardown strategies. Nt lostnfound Feb 2019 #13
Complete coincidence jberryhill Feb 2019 #41
While I totally agree with your take on this situation and your inclination to tread "very lightly" Atticus Feb 2019 #14
+1 2naSalit Feb 2019 #68
When this broke last week, we heard demands that Northam quit Hassler Feb 2019 #15
No one is trying to "excuse" Fairfax EffieBlack Feb 2019 #17
We don't have photographic proof of Northam's conduct! NotAPuppet Feb 2019 #22
Oh please EffieBlack Feb 2019 #23
You're entitled to your opinion! NotAPuppet Feb 2019 #24
The problem is not that there's no evidence of Northam being a racist. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #25
On your marks, get set..... jberryhill Feb 2019 #32
"---calling Northam a racist without any evidence", Gracie? Not to put too fine a point on it Atticus Feb 2019 #77
Where's the evidence? NotAPuppet Feb 2019 #85
I am tempted to quote what Barney Frank had to say about arguing with a dining room Atticus Feb 2019 #88
Yes, we do. We have a video of him admitting to putting shoe polish on his face pnwmom Feb 2019 #33
I noticed that too...nt 2naSalit Feb 2019 #69
Give us one believable reason why someone who was NOT in such an offensive Atticus Feb 2019 #74
Well Stated. Divide and Conquer. MarcA Feb 2019 #26
When there is credible evidence against Fairfax, MH1 Feb 2019 #93
Excellent explanation! EffieBlack Feb 2019 #96
I don't think we can hold anyone responsible for phantom allegations. Vinca Feb 2019 #16
I'm about where you are on this. The Post also talked to people he went to school with and octoberlib Feb 2019 #20
I think this is a ruse...they want to avoid state charges in VA Baltimike Feb 2019 #21
I have no problem saying . . . peggysue2 Feb 2019 #27
If it was just her and Fairfax in a room. Blue_true Feb 2019 #48
Agreed. peggysue2 Feb 2019 #51
I must admit on Northam, O am all over the place. Blue_true Feb 2019 #60
Another sensitive question, but first one of fact: *Did* somebody herself post the allegation? UTUSN Feb 2019 #28
To answer your question - because the circumstances are completely different EffieBlack Feb 2019 #38
I agree 100% with your take on the Northam situation. Blue_true Feb 2019 #49
Yip, first I have *no* answer to fact, did the subject (woman) make allegation herself? UTUSN Feb 2019 #67
I don't buy the "he looked at the picture and thought it was him but was wrong" EffieBlack Feb 2019 #75
She went to a newspaper.....did she also go to the police?? nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #29
It's for the purpose of setting up Herman Cain jberryhill Feb 2019 #30
Lordy, Lordy peggysue2 Feb 2019 #36
There was an allegation last night that Northam was Jarqui Feb 2019 #34
A big difference is that Christine Blasey Ford came forward, told her story publicly and offered EffieBlack Feb 2019 #39
What substantial corroboration? LisaL Feb 2019 #42
A photograph EffieBlack Feb 2019 #43
The question "what substantial corroboration?" was directed to the Ford allegation jberryhill Feb 2019 #53
Aw - missed that. Thanks. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Feb 2019 #56
I'm surprised that I have to explain to anyone here what corroboration Blasey Ford had, but EffieBlack Feb 2019 #58
That is a very big difference Jarqui Feb 2019 #44
I'm happy to weigh in on this. yardwork Feb 2019 #35
Excellent point, yardwork! Cha Feb 2019 #87
Question for info--is accuser white? Have avoided all stories about mess. bobbieinok Feb 2019 #37
She's black EffieBlack Feb 2019 #40
Well, I don't know about the accusation against Fairfax, but I do know Republicans. denverbill Feb 2019 #47
Wow. I know so many people that have been burned for less. Forced oral sex? Wow. To the top. janmichael3 Feb 2019 #50
welcome to DU! gopiscrap Feb 2019 #79
Did you lose your Cha Feb 2019 #86
Effie, I have no inside info, but I see this as an attempted Double Ratfuck Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #55
It likely is EffieBlack Feb 2019 #59
I sure hope Fairfax survives this. . . . Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #61
I think they messed up by throwing the dirt at Fairfax while Northam is still trying to hang on EffieBlack Feb 2019 #63
I hope Democrats/Fairfax can play this to advantage. Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #66
The allegation was made first in 2017. LisaL Feb 2019 #73
She went to the Post in 2017 and then dropped it completely until it was brought up yesterday EffieBlack Feb 2019 #76
Sounds fishy to me. jalan48 Feb 2019 #62
unfortunately I think we are going to lose a Governor to racism Horse with no Name Feb 2019 #65
I seriously doubt that's going to happen. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #78
It doesn't have to happen if we stand by our people. A 35 year old picture is not reason enough Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #92
The AG is a Democrat. Virginia Constitution Article V, Section 16: Marcuse Feb 2019 #72
But, according to some people here, they can knock out the AG and then a Republican will get the job EffieBlack Feb 2019 #81
What they can do is call for an election for LT governor if Northam resigns. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #90
Make no mistake, this is a coup by Republicans for Virginia...and we should not cooperate with any Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #89
Northam's continued presence is an insult and affront to every black person in his state EffieBlack Feb 2019 #91
And Fairfax's isn't to every woman? temporary311 Feb 2019 #94
How is a man an affront and insult to every woman in a state solely because EffieBlack Feb 2019 #95
Hopefully you're right, temporary311 Feb 2019 #97
I see...but I feel a Republican would be worse. They are coming for Fairfax as well in order to Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #100
I started a new thread, which is pertinent to this: MineralMan Feb 2019 #99
The Republicans are trying to invalidate an election. LisaM Feb 2019 #101
+1 happybird Feb 2019 #102
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