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In reply to the discussion: So Let Me Get This Straight !!! - Re: Julian Assange [View all]
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)159. It sounds like they plan on filing charges to me.
From your link:
Asked if he might mount a prosecution under the Espionage Act, Holder said: "That is certainly something that might play a role, but there are other statutes, other tools at our disposal." Holder added that he had given the go-ahead for a number of unspecified actions as part of a criminal investigation into WikiLeaks. "I personally authorised a number of things last week and that's an indication of the seriousness with which we take this matter and the highest level of involvement at the department of justice," he said.
He refused to say whether the Obama administration would try to shut down WikiLeaks. "I don't want to get into what our capabilities are," Holder said. "We are looking at all the things we can do to try to stem the flow of this information."
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The fact that shrub and darth cheney are walking free in this country balances the
2on2u
Aug 2012
#1
Then he has to face the rape charge, defend himself with counsel, and stand up for himself.
Swamp Lover
Aug 2012
#3
Then by all means let's make sure Assange can go back to SWEDEN to defend himself and not be....
Raster
Aug 2012
#6
Actually the women said he did not rape them, they had sex without a condem. which somehow got chan
robinlynne
Aug 2012
#9
You do realize that each country is allowed to make it's own definition of rape, right?
jeff47
Aug 2012
#24
IT's NOT RAPE. That is not only my position, but reality. RAPE did not happen. Noone alleges that ra
robinlynne
Aug 2012
#95
Blurs the definition of rape. The alleged behavior occurred during/after consensual sex
leveymg
Aug 2012
#102
and the police tried to change the record of the testimony six days after it was made.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#184
Thanks for linking that. According the unaltered account, it becomes clear it wan't rape
leveymg
Aug 2012
#200
Except the women themselves aren't calling it rape, nor did they want to press charges
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#107
PLease. the victim who went back and had sex with him again a few days later? give me a break.
robinlynne
Aug 2012
#157
More than one allegation, more than one woman involved, and no, she didn't
Spider Jerusalem
Aug 2012
#160
Maybe because she didn't say that was what happened. There was no second intercourse,
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#163
she had already by her own admission allowed sex without a correctly placed condom -- without
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#170
she had already allowed sex without a condom by her own admission. a condom placed only on the
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#175
no with *men.* i'm a woman, i *have* been raped, and this ain't rape. it's a woman, not under
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#181
what does the fact that she met him days before have to do with it? all the 4 episodes of
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#182
Holy crap! I had no idea the case was that flimsy, but *still* thought it was politically motivated
LaydeeBug
Aug 2012
#227
You claim to have read the police interviews and the rest of the info
Spider Jerusalem
Aug 2012
#174
i don't see any sexual assault or molestation in her description. you do. what is it?
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#176
nowhere in their testimony do they say they were raped. nowhere in their testimony is anything
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#178
sorry, it ain't once you've already had sex three times the same night -- unless you say "no".
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#183
The opinion of the Swedish prosecutor and the UK high court is that there's a case to answer.
Spider Jerusalem
Aug 2012
#219
yeah, well, i'm pretty sure why *you* can't grasp that no rape occurred & the women aren't
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#185
I'm sorry, Matt. Matt is it? A man? If the woman says its not rape, its not rape
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#125
You said the situation could "become rape". But the women involved say no rape
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#139
I also said I don't what happened and such a situation could become rape.
mattclearing
Aug 2012
#140
there's a high percentage of men on this thread saying it was rape. kind of funny.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#187
Wrong regarding Iraq. The rapes and tortures and murder occurred while the US
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#91
If you read the other Assange threads, you will find the same names over and over again,
1monster
Aug 2012
#196
You are naive, or have your head in the sand. Even the Australian government has said that the US
robinlynne
Aug 2012
#99
Except the women themselves aren't calling it rape, nor did they want to press charges
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#45
Read what I wrote, "its clearly got precedent happening from Sweden, not the UK." nt
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#103
ffs it's been explaied to you that the UK will not extradite to a country with the death penalty..
frylock
Aug 2012
#205
No, they will happily extradite as long as the prosecutors agree not to seek the death penalty.
jeff47
Aug 2012
#208
The point is to (1) discredit him and (2) get rid of him. US has nothing with which to charge him.nt
ieoeja
Aug 2012
#78
That's a cogent analysis of this case. I'm sure he, and most public figures btw, have
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#119
Take your mockery and bring it to a non-democratic board. Mockery is not a progressive
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#147
no one said he's a saint. he sounds like a royal asshole, in fact. him being an asshole doesn't
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#186
by the testimony of the women themselves he didn't rape them. did you read it?
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#212
as i've already shown you, rape in sweden = use of force or person unable to give consent.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#226
i notice *you* have ignored everything i've said, including the definition of rape in sweden.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#231
I'm sorry. I know exactly what rape is. Most women do. That is not rape. Rape is terrifying.
robinlynne
Aug 2012
#71
It is not rape. Dont call it rape. I dont care what Sweden does.That may be a translation error.
robinlynne
Aug 2012
#94
Does it matter to you that he denies these allegations? That none of this has
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#123
bullshit. the definition of rape in sweden is pretty much what it is in the us.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#224
which "swede's"? (sic) the ones who said the case didn't rise to rape and closed it, or
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#232
there are no charges, and he was "accused" of "rape" for 2 CONSENSUAL sex acts.
librechik
Aug 2012
#86
"The woman who was held hostage and raped by Blackwater/Haliburton didn't get anywhere NEAR...
villager
Aug 2012
#4
Yes, it tells us Sweden does a much better job of protecting rape victims than Iraq.
jeff47
Aug 2012
#27
she was raped by US citizens and as you know they can be prosecuted in the USA for sex crimes abroad
Swagman
Aug 2012
#39
it relates to your claim that Sweden cares for rape victims better than any other country
Swagman
Aug 2012
#53
And I'm sure you rushed here to post your umbrage on behalf of Blackwater/US Army victims
villager
Aug 2012
#63
The paternalistic GALL of the Swedish state bringing this case on, against the wishes of the women
riderinthestorm
Aug 2012
#113
That's the problem with insanity, it never stops getting worse. If Mickey Spillane had
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#13
Fear of (more) exposure drives governments nuts. Even ones that brand themselves "transparent".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2012
#14
yes, obviously. threats to storm an embassy over a highly-dubious rape (highly dubious because
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#26
an independent nation has concluded that Assange is telling the truth and has reviewed
Swagman
Aug 2012
#35
The point is to (1) discredit him and (2) get rid of him. US has nothing with which to charge him.nt
ieoeja
Aug 2012
#79
Sweden's last execution was in 1910; Sweden abolished the death penalty in 1920; and Sweden
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#152
Sweden hands over about one person/yr to US; UK hands over about 20 persons/yr
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#210
How are you so good at being ignorant of the contents of the discusion you
The Doctor.
Aug 2012
#237
You think it's suspicious that people in the news get talked about on a news-related webforum?
cemaphonic
Aug 2012
#158
This is NOT about rape. This is about someone having the audacity to expose the lies.
Raster
Aug 2012
#77
Exactly. In rape cases, I take the alleged victims side probably 99.9% of the time.
Zorra
Aug 2012
#148
Rape of the Sabine Women perhaps may be a tad more important to world history
AngryAmish
Aug 2012
#75
Yes, indeed, very odd. Assange must have something BIG to warrant this kind of attention. Wall St.
mother earth
Aug 2012
#80
Are people immune from all charges right after they commit a crime of which we approve?
treestar
Aug 2012
#93
these two certainly aren't. yet the brits say they'll storm an embassy to get this guy.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#177
More baseless personal attack type propaganda with not one single shred of fact to support it.
Zorra
Aug 2012
#203
Easy. He leaks a bunch of documents. Unlike Ellsberg, no one is prosecuting him for it
treestar
Aug 2012
#211
Thanks! Excellent journalism. However, no amount of fact, reason, or logic, will stop those whose
Zorra
Aug 2012
#202
what the fuck does any "unspoken bond among women" have to do with the question of whether
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#217
ridiculous. and bogus. you don't want to deal with what the women actually said because that would
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#221
derecognizing the status of the embassy = ruse to make entering the embassy and snatching
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#235