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TorchTheWitch

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20. Leatherman is talking about a 911 call to report the shooting
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:56 AM
Aug 2012

not the previous call before he shot Trayvon. The call he made, as Leatherman explains, before the shooting was not an emergency, did not tell police exactly where in the complex they were, and did not involve any need for emergency medical assistance. Though the police arrived as a result of the call he made before the shooting, they were not in a rush to save someone's life, had to find where they were in the complex, and because that call was before the shooting, there was no emergency medical personnel on the way. Zimmerman had asked someone to call his WIFE to tell her about the shooting, but deliberately did not call 911 about the shooting, asked others not to call about it and lied saying he had already called 911 but he DIDN'T call about the shooting - he let people assume that he had called about the shooting when he did not and had called about a non-emergency situation before the shooting. The police arrived not knowing exactly where they were, having no idea that a shooting had occurred and no idea that emergency medical personnel were needed immediately.

Further, Zimmerman's own words in reporting that he did not know that Trayvon had died until he got to the police station says that he knew that he was alive while he was sitting on his back after shooting him in the chest with his hands around his neck. All that together shows that Zimmerman knew the police were going to arrive any moment and he wanted Trayvon dead before they arrived so he would have no chance to say anything before dying about what had happened and could not be saved by medical intervention in order that he live and be able to tell his story of what happened. Zimmerman wanted him dead so he could not say anything about what happened leaving Zimmerman free to make up whatever story he wanted to get him off the hook, and both his physical actions and actions about telling people not to call 911 about the shooting and lying saying he already had knowing that people would assume that he meant that he called 911 about the shooting profoundly show this to be true.

This makes Zimmerman much more hideous and guilty as sin than I ever imagined, and this goes a LONG way in explaining why the prosecution charged him with second degree murder.

I am devastated to find that Trayvon didn't die right away and suffered horribly for some time until he finally did. I had assumed and was gratified by thinking he died immediately or at least very close to immediately so he didn't have to suffer all that time in agony before finally passing. And all the while knowing Zimmerman was deliberately killing him.




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Zimmerman's depraved mind [View all] pokerfan Aug 2012 OP
Oh, man, oh man. Sickening reading. freshwest Aug 2012 #1
He had already called 911 and police got there within two minutes of him ending the call. lightcameron Aug 2012 #2
Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Aug 2012 #5
Thanks! lightcameron Aug 2012 #6
Where did you gather that MO Information cam? HangOnKids Aug 2012 #35
Ditto malaise Aug 2012 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #37
In Earl G's HateMail Thread HangOnKids Aug 2012 #40
I'm betting cam knows the drill by now Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #41
Forget him -- He repeats like a broken record Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #39
Damn I love live ones malaise Aug 2012 #48
If you really want a laugh, he decided to PM me for some reason Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #76
LOL malaise Aug 2012 #79
Nope pokerfan Aug 2012 #8
Here's the call. lightcameron Aug 2012 #9
Ah pokerfan Aug 2012 #10
Why do you say that was not 911? I always thought it was. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #11
That was police dispatch former-republican Aug 2012 #13
it was not. he called the police directly, as he did 100 other times. to report someone walking robinlynne Aug 2012 #14
That was the non emergency number pokerfan Aug 2012 #15
It wasn't an emergency when he called. lightcameron Aug 2012 #27
So why did he even call in the first place? Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #36
That'd be a great rhetorical question to present to the jury. lightcameron Aug 2012 #44
It's not a "rhetorical" question, since Zimmerman set the Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #50
um, it's nice to have the police on the way when somebody has been shot magical thyme Aug 2012 #71
a depraved mind would tell people not to call 911 noiretextatique Aug 2012 #77
Police dispatch is not 911. 911 comes with ambulance... vaberella Aug 2012 #16
The police were on their way, Zimmerman knew they were, and they got there in two minutes. lightcameron Aug 2012 #23
Are you being purposefully dense? leftynyc Aug 2012 #26
No, I usually do that by accident. (edit) lightcameron Aug 2012 #28
It SHOULD BE open-and shut Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #38
Who faked Zimmerman's injury photos? lightcameron Aug 2012 #43
The trial will play itself out, but you haven't addressed these facts... Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #51
You can't imagine any scenario in which Zimmerman is acquitted lightcameron Aug 2012 #53
You mean the struggle that he started by tailing an innocent teen? Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #55
Yes, that one. lightcameron Aug 2012 #57
"...Not worth spending time on..." = Still another dodge.... Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #59
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #64
Nope. Motive isn't an element of crime. lightcameron Aug 2012 #72
Still ducking like goddamned champ Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #75
I SAW the tape of him DiverDave Aug 2012 #61
Who faked the photographs? lightcameron Aug 2012 #73
Daddy Zim, is that you? n/t Whisp Aug 2012 #70
It's Papa. lightcameron Aug 2012 #74
It was NOT to 911. he called the police station regularly. your mistake. robinlynne Aug 2012 #12
Misses the point SlipperySlope Aug 2012 #18
Your #3 is key, and I suspect that's how the jury will see it. lightcameron Aug 2012 #25
Leatherman is talking about a 911 call to report the shooting TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #20
The evidence needs to be presented in court in my opinion, before JDPriestly Aug 2012 #22
I doubt very much that a jury will squabble over whether he called 911 or a non-emergency line. lightcameron Aug 2012 #24
Nope pokerfan Aug 2012 #30
I think we're talking two different things here. lightcameron Aug 2012 #31
everything changed after the shooting pokerfan Aug 2012 #34
How did he know that no ambulance was coming? lightcameron Aug 2012 #45
because the NEN dispatcher told him an officer had been sent pokerfan Aug 2012 #46
Correct. lightcameron Aug 2012 #54
You think the NEN dispatcher knew someone had been shot? pokerfan Aug 2012 #56
No, never said that. lightcameron Aug 2012 #58
a sane jury will see right through his pathetic "defense" noiretextatique Aug 2012 #78
His call to 911 brought police, not an ambulance. Zimmerman didn't call an ambulance for Martin. yardwork Aug 2012 #32
Zimmerman has also claimed that he was in fear for his life csziggy Aug 2012 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Fawke Em Aug 2012 #52
Will he plea bargin, or hope that one or more jurors don't care about truth? Hoyt Aug 2012 #3
Wow, I haven't had to hide a Zimmerman thread for almost a month. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #4
And, here you are Cha Aug 2012 #19
The woman Marcy Cutcher actually claimed Zimmerman told her "just call the police." LisaL Aug 2012 #7
So instead of a Murder 2...this article is suggesting Murder 1? n/t vaberella Aug 2012 #17
no, it explains why it is murder 2 rather than manslaughter TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #21
Any proof that wasn't the case. vaberella Aug 2012 #33
murder. barbtries Aug 2012 #29
I hope there's a hell. The Doctor. Aug 2012 #42
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #60
Your post makes no sense. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #63
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #65
Enjoy your stay. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #66
thank you michaelBr Aug 2012 #67
HEY ASSHOLE: (Results of your jury deliberation) NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #68
Okay. Amend to leave the charges from 2nd to 1st. Panasonic Aug 2012 #62
pathetic little man Whisp Aug 2012 #69
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