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BlueStater

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162. Not really.

Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:38 PM

Feb 2019

I'm looking at things from her perspective far more than his and rightfully so. She's the one instigating this. He's merely reacting.

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BREAKING: Virginia LG Justin Fairfax sexual assault accuser named [View all] brooklynite Feb 2019 OP

She was named in the original report on the right wing website ... Jarqui Feb 2019 #1

There is no way to prove this...and we will never really know what happened...I am not willing to Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #2

Neither am I Jarqui Feb 2019 #16

They can't win elections so their only hope is attack and attack some more. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #47

That is exactly what is going on here. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #204

should all sexual assault victims be taken seriously? at140 Feb 2019 #101

Yes. Victims of a crime should always be taken seriously. Wouldn't you at least like hear ... marble falls Feb 2019 #119

Personally I take every sexual assault accusation seriously.. at140 Feb 2019 #123

Of course, so should the person who they're accusing. #metoo doesn't equal quilt by accusation. uponit7771 Feb 2019 #121

I don't think that you can ruin a person in a he said she said moment...others came forward. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #203

And so does he Empowerer Feb 2019 #6

For sure. Two credible people. Jarqui Feb 2019 #27

Credible like Dr. Ford. democratisphere Feb 2019 #3

The story is the same. The victim comes out because of the potential job promotion. irresistable Feb 2019 #9

So it's okay for Lt. Governnor? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #14

I haven't seen anyone here take that position Jarqui Feb 2019 #18

She went to the Washington Post when he ran for Lt. Governor. irresistable Feb 2019 #23

actually no dsc Feb 2019 #26

How do you know that Dr. Tyson has never told anyone? irresistable Feb 2019 #31

Tyson told the Post she'd never told anyone. octoberlib Feb 2019 #49

She seems to be dedicating her life to helping abuse victims and researching sexual abuse. irresistable Feb 2019 #55

Oh, I'm not doubting her word. octoberlib Feb 2019 #62

It does; the accusation is credible but that doesn't mean Fairfax is guilty. An investigation should uponit7771 Feb 2019 #132

I don't believe that an investigation can help in this case. irresistable Feb 2019 #197

+1, the post sounds like they did their due diligence in this case. I remember the past is what sunk uponit7771 Feb 2019 #131

because the Washington post investigated the story dsc Feb 2019 #66

So if the victim stays silent for a period of time, forget the assault charge? at140 Feb 2019 #105

Can we all be honest? We forget it if she accused a Democrat theboss Feb 2019 #169

Exactly same story... at140 Feb 2019 #102

Probably having a beer ? OnDoutside Feb 2019 #107

Probably more than one beer...a 6-pack? at140 Feb 2019 #109

A long time since he had a six pack ! OnDoutside Feb 2019 #112

This is false, Ford told people before BK was selected uponit7771 Feb 2019 #114

Well, this is certainly a depressing development... n/t hlthe2b Feb 2019 #4

My sentiments exactly. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #99

No shit. cwydro Feb 2019 #134

This isn't "breaking news." Her name's been out there since the story surfaced over the weekend. Empowerer Feb 2019 #5

Wow, she looks really credible to me. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #7

He's also credible Empowerer Feb 2019 #12

No but as a woman who was sexually assaulted in college and did not report it. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #17

Her timing was exactly the same as Dr. Ford's. irresistable Feb 2019 #39

+1, I'm starting to think the rat**cking part is #metoo is guilt be accusation. uponit7771 Feb 2019 #133

She needs to show proof Yosemito Feb 2019 #8

Like what proof? BlueStater Feb 2019 #78

His lying corroborated it... lame54 Feb 2019 #130

I agree, but I was referring to physical evidence. BlueStater Feb 2019 #135

We may have gotten much closer to truth if repukes Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #156

Didn't you believe Dr Ford? at140 Feb 2019 #113

Only after BK refused FBI investigation, Person A being credible doesn't mean person B is guilty uponit7771 Feb 2019 #115

There must be one standard for all sexual assault cases at140 Feb 2019 #120

Agreed and the standard HAS NEVER BEEN guilt by accusation ... PERIOD. That's not sound thinking... uponit7771 Feb 2019 #122

She wants an investigation? BlueStater Feb 2019 #136

No, the DNC should do an investigation whether she wants it or not. Same thing they did with uponit7771 Feb 2019 #137

Unfortunately in most rape cases there is little absolute proof. moriah Feb 2019 #205

Have they elaborated on the claim of sexual assault? Vinca Feb 2019 #10

Both acknowledge sexual interaction. brooklynite Feb 2019 #21

So unless there was a fly on the wall who can give testimony, there is no proof of either claim. Vinca Feb 2019 #30

Is the new standard "there must be a witness" in sexual assault cases? brooklynite Feb 2019 #36

Are you saying that it should be sufficient for a woman to say "he raped me" for a many to be deemed EffieBlack Feb 2019 #64

The old standard is something like innocent until proven otherwise Jarqui Feb 2019 #83

Nobody is convicting him... brooklynite Feb 2019 #84

Who is bringing it forward? Jarqui Feb 2019 #85

Everything you are saying is a verbatim transcript of the Kavanaugh defenders theboss Feb 2019 #86

I disagree. There are differences Jarqui Feb 2019 #90

Well, MichMary Feb 2019 #106

That is a lot more than this woman has Jarqui Feb 2019 #110

The big difference is we know the people in this case were together theboss Feb 2019 #183

I'm not sure where you are getting your last two points from this dialogue Jarqui Feb 2019 #185

Someone posted today that she just remembered last week that she was raped. Autumn Feb 2019 #124

How would you prove it? Seriously. Vinca Feb 2019 #92

Is your new standard believe everyone no matter what? BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #198

I wasn't aware that a decision had to be made immediately brooklynite Feb 2019 #199

I don't recall any of us taking that view Codeine Feb 2019 #52

The Washington Post either could not find, or did not believe this woman? rzemanfl Feb 2019 #11

She shopped her story to the Post more than a year ago Empowerer Feb 2019 #15

More specifically, they couldn't find any basis to conclude one way or the other onenote Feb 2019 #19

That's what I said Empowerer Feb 2019 #25

Can you quote the Washington Post? Yosemito Feb 2019 #24

Here: onenote Feb 2019 #43

From the Washington Post csziggy Feb 2019 #60

"Shopped her story?" Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #35

One need not ask for money to "shop" a story Empowerer Feb 2019 #37

Saying she "shopped it" certainly makes it sound that way Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #46

Ok - how about this: Empowerer Feb 2019 #53

Approached the Post is more fair and accurate Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #57

A TV Station knew about the allegation wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #188

"shopped" her story? peacefrogman Feb 2019 #48

yes, the smears begin Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #56

I'm only responding to this... Charlotte Little Feb 2019 #141

Not true - they determined it was a he said she said w/o corroboration Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #70

I am assuming that they did not want to be in a position for libel. Caliman73 Feb 2019 #140

Yes, except it's more about no way to prove Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #154

They also didn't believe him. lark Feb 2019 #80

This is a right wing coordinated take down. MrGrieves Feb 2019 #13

Northam not stepping down has nothing to do with Fairfax Empowerer Feb 2019 #20

Why would this woman participate in RW take-down? onenote Feb 2019 #22

Why would a man admit being the guy in blackface smiling next to a Klansman he wasn't? Empowerer Feb 2019 #28

Thanks for the unhelpful non-sequitur. onenote Feb 2019 #32

Not a non-sequitur - an illustration Empowerer Feb 2019 #41

You deflected Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #42

Not at all Empowerer Feb 2019 #45

No you answered with a non-sequitur as the other poster said Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #51

he might have assumed it was a photo of his michael jackson dancing Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #59

THAT's what his Michael Jackson outfit looked like? Empowerer Feb 2019 #76

I've looked at things without seeing them because my mind was racing Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #94

It's hysterical that the time he dressed in blackface isn't captured by that picture theboss Feb 2019 #95

You're suggesting the state's chief executive, with power over the NationaGuard, among other things, Empowerer Feb 2019 #97

it actually has nothing to do with his official duties Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #108

Too true! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #63

She certainly could be credible. MrGrieves Feb 2019 #38

Somethings not right. Strong background in sexual violence awareness and prevention? bluestarone Feb 2019 #29

actually she reached out to the press in 2017 before he was inaugurated Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #61

Blasey Ford taken seriously? Certainly not by the republicans. Achilleaze Feb 2019 #98

Ford told people YEARS before BK was put on a list IIRC uponit7771 Feb 2019 #117

And I didn't tell anyone until i began therapy years after the fact Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #125

True, none of that He's guilty. #metoo isn't guilt by accusation its at the least believe the uponit7771 Feb 2019 #127

Ford talked about it with her therapist when he was being considered for the DC circuit. Calista241 Feb 2019 #163

I understand what you are saying theboss Feb 2019 #181

Doesn't look good. She has a strong resume. jalan48 Feb 2019 #33

Is there anyone left who believes this is not the work of Roger Stone??? PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #34

Feeling Like A Coordinated RF ProfessorGAC Feb 2019 #65

Agreed about the RF. mahina Feb 2019 #69

So this woman is conspiring with Roger Stone? theboss Feb 2019 #72

Did I say that? mahina Feb 2019 #143

You said Roger Stone is causing this theboss Feb 2019 #157

Tina Dupuy is a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #189

Yep...and/or his minions. They are trying to get AA's against Northam and MeToo against Fairfax Baltimike Feb 2019 #166

She's hired the same law firm that represented Christine Blasey Ford inwiththenew Feb 2019 #40

Wow - would have never hired them in a zillion years. nt Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #71

So? 2naSalit Feb 2019 #73

I thought this was investigated MFM008 Feb 2019 #44

The Attorney General is next in line, I believe. A democrat. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #50

I wonder where that AG stands on abortion rights, the first issue mahina Feb 2019 #68

How do you know there are no skeletons in his closet? LisaL Feb 2019 #145

How do you know Northam doesn't have more skeletons in HIS closet? Empowerer Feb 2019 #149

I didn't say there weren't or that they couldn't be manufactured. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #150

Soon Gillibrand will be telling him to resign too...nt helpisontheway Feb 2019 #54

This seems far more credible than I initially thought Va Lefty Feb 2019 #58

I'm sure Republicans are doing a happy dance now DBoon Feb 2019 #67

I believe the Attorney General is next in line. Another Dem. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #74

We need to figure out the rules here theboss Feb 2019 #75

Classic he said she said bpj62 Feb 2019 #77

The problem is that you can't make this a RW conspiracy without implicating her theboss Feb 2019 #81

Yes you can bpj62 Feb 2019 #82

That's the million$$$ question. Ufta88 Feb 2019 #87

How did Drudge get the Lewinsky scandal? theboss Feb 2019 #88

Linda Tripp or Lucianne Goldberg bpj62 Feb 2019 #91

And everything they said was largely true theboss Feb 2019 #93

Wow thst is a Stretch bpj62 Feb 2019 #103

Clearly, they were attracted to each other..... theboss Feb 2019 #159

Once again the hit squad is out in force bpj62 Feb 2019 #171

Does a RW troll website publishing this make her a liar? theboss Feb 2019 #89

Nice trap there bpj62 Feb 2019 #96

Yes it makes it suspect. rockfordfile Feb 2019 #184

Remember how last weekend the fact that Northam's picture was released by a far right website EffieBlack Feb 2019 #187

I'm defending the accusor theboss Feb 2019 #191

Actually you can Empowerer Feb 2019 #139

So was she lying in her Facebook post? theboss Feb 2019 #161

I don't know. Do you? Empowerer Feb 2019 #165

This is the crux of the matter, I believe MrsMatt Feb 2019 #100

I don't know what to think about this. BlueStater Feb 2019 #79

Fairfax is an intelligent, successful, well-educated man who has no history of assaulting women Empowerer Feb 2019 #142

And Bill Cosby was a beloved celebrity until he wasn't. BlueStater Feb 2019 #151

You're making my point Empowerer Feb 2019 #158

Not really. BlueStater Feb 2019 #162

So it's on him to prove he didn't do it. Empowerer Feb 2019 #167

That's pretty much what we demanded of Kavanaugh theboss Feb 2019 #168

No, it's not Empowerer Feb 2019 #170

Maybe I'm not remembering the Kavanaugh saga well theboss Feb 2019 #172

Agreement that "something of a sexual nature occurred" is NOT corroboration of rape! Empowerer Feb 2019 #174

It's collaboration that they met and something happened theboss Feb 2019 #175

So every time a man meets a woman and has sex with her, he has to worry that could be evidence Empowerer Feb 2019 #176

I don't know the last time you dated, but....the answer is kinda yea.... theboss Feb 2019 #177

We're done here Empowerer Feb 2019 #179

No, you didn't say that EffieBlack Feb 2019 #193

What outrageous thing didn't I say? theboss Feb 2019 #195

Here's the thing. BlueStater Feb 2019 #178

That doesn't even make any sense Empowerer Feb 2019 #180

What about it doesn't make any sense? BlueStater Feb 2019 #182

I honestly am deeply uncomfortable with this "no other accusor" idea theboss Feb 2019 #194

This ain't good. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #104

The Kavanaugh decision has set the precedent. There is even less evidence than for Dr Ford. Should OnDoutside Feb 2019 #111

No, Ford came forward years before KNaw was put on a list uponit7771 Feb 2019 #118

I agree but there's a conversation that people need to have about OnDoutside Feb 2019 #126

My understanding is #metoo was at least believe the accuser enough to investigate which wasn't ... uponit7771 Feb 2019 #128

Two people in hotel room many years ago. LisaL Feb 2019 #144

"What do you think investigation could possibly come up with? " ... Facts and under oath statements uponit7771 Feb 2019 #147

Valid-Valid-Valid..very Valid point at140 Feb 2019 #152

Both of them agree they were in a hotel room. LisaL Feb 2019 #153

Which - again - is way more than we ever got in the Kavanaugh discussion theboss Feb 2019 #173

He claims the encounter was consensual, she apparently claims otherwise. LisaL Feb 2019 #196

So because we lost on Kavanaugh, we simply give up on holding politicians accountable? theboss Feb 2019 #160

Holding politicians accountable or using unsubstantiated allegations to destroy OnDoutside Feb 2019 #200

When there is Zero Tolerance for GOPers, these accusations hit us too. I hope it works out. Hoyt Feb 2019 #116

+1, at minimum there should be an investigation which is what did NOT happen with Franken or Ford uponit7771 Feb 2019 #129

The Democratic candidates for President should be saying for trump to resign. rockfordfile Feb 2019 #186

Not good. n/t demmiblue Feb 2019 #138

This is such a strange story. The sexual encounter happened in 2004 underthematrix Feb 2019 #146

+1, I think the DNC would do themselves some good by investigating the accusation like what happened uponit7771 Feb 2019 #148

In Ellison's case accusations were found to be unsubstantiated. LisaL Feb 2019 #155

The DNC is not equipped to do this type of thing theboss Feb 2019 #164

No, we didn't believe Franken's accusers wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #190

And we've never said "Believe all women" EffieBlack Feb 2019 #192

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2019 #202

Is there a Go Fund me account set up yet? MichMan Feb 2019 #201