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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:50 AM

14. O.K., this particular hypothetical is over the top. Why something about OBAMA that

is totally imaginative and totally out of character for him? Really.

To play along, *IF* such any allegation were lodged against HIM, it would and should get whatever test of credibility that could be mustered.

This is a totally strawman argument. If we're really talking about the LT Governor of Virginia (let's not be coy), it is completely irrelevant to an artificial parallel to OBAMA.

These posts, yes, by you/somebody I would tend to support/EffieBlack, previously led me to the post below. I'm asking you to be honest: Are you on a tear just because allegations are being made about an African American? I'm on the lookout constantly for Repuke Dirty Tricks. I have no idea about the LT Gov, and after the sources being wignut, doubts about the Governor of Virginia either.

Anyway, for me, IF somebody in my Demo coalition is guilty, that person is not a Dem for me anymore, that person is on their own. I just have to be SURE either way. But for now I'm really upset at the hypothetical false crap dragging OBAMA into it.

*********** O.P. I posted before because of previous straw:
so as not to be coy::

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211774060

Each of us probably has membership in a "home" facet of the coalition: Racial/ethnic, gender, social/civil/economic justice, environmental, et al. - each sub-set with their individual #1 agenda item, but below that one, it's all subsumed with all the rights issues we all have in common.

I will say that in our current iteration of being divided among ourselves it appears that in the foreground among some of us is individual loyalty to our own sub-group, precedence over our ultimate unity to the coalition.

Iow, if a member in my own smaller sub-group gets accused of whatever criminal or other wrong-doing, the accusations being true, that fellow member of mine is dead to me. They lose all claim to the "Democratic" label.

Remember when there was "an abortion doctor" who committed crimes of death of both women and/or their newborns? The wingnut outlets kept labeling him as an "abortion doctor" as their usual way of denigrating Pro-Choice. I say now as then that he was neither a doctor nor performing abortions: He was simply a serial killer who used medical techniques as his m.o. of choice. It had nothing to do with his being supposedly a member of the Democratic coalition, nothing to do with "pro-Choice" or of whatever race or ethnicity usually associated with the Dem coalition.

Iow (again), if a member of whatever sub-group of the Dem coalition commits crimes or malfeasance, that person is on their own. If somebody doesn't "get" what I'm saying, please just pass on by.

*****END of the lack of coyness.





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