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In reply to the discussion: Ya Know... There's A Third Possibility On The Assange Divide... [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,485 posts)23. The 'rendition' you refer to was done clandestinely
to people no-one had heard of (and the UK has not been innocent in that regard either). It would indeed have to be Obama "disappearing" Assange. Assange is in the public eye; whatever happens will have to go through a visible public process. And that's easier from the UK than Sweden:
Legal myths about the Assange extradition
Two: Assange is more likely to be extradited to USA from Sweden than the United Kingdom
This is similarly untrue. Any extradition from Sweden to the United States would actually be more difficult. This is because it would require the consent of both Sweden and the United Kingdom.
(See Francis FitzGibbon QCs Nothing Like the Sun for further detail on this.)
One can add that there is no evidence whatsoever that the United Kingdom would not swiftly comply with any extradition request from the United States; quite the reverse. Ask Gary McKinnon, or Richard O'Dwyer, or the NatWest Three.
In reality, the best opportunity for the United States for Assange to be extradited is whilst he is in the United Kingdom.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2012/08/legal-myths-about-assange-extradition
Two: Assange is more likely to be extradited to USA from Sweden than the United Kingdom
This is similarly untrue. Any extradition from Sweden to the United States would actually be more difficult. This is because it would require the consent of both Sweden and the United Kingdom.
(See Francis FitzGibbon QCs Nothing Like the Sun for further detail on this.)
One can add that there is no evidence whatsoever that the United Kingdom would not swiftly comply with any extradition request from the United States; quite the reverse. Ask Gary McKinnon, or Richard O'Dwyer, or the NatWest Three.
In reality, the best opportunity for the United States for Assange to be extradited is whilst he is in the United Kingdom.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2012/08/legal-myths-about-assange-extradition
If he fears that the Swedish prosecutor is merely a cats paw for the US government, who will demand his extradition when he arrives in Sweden, he has to take account of Section 58 of our Extradition Act 2003: if the Swedes want to extradite him to the USA, they have to obtain the consent of the British Home Secretary first. That rule derives from Article 28 of the 2002 EU Council Framework Decision (2002/584/JHA), which binds the Swedish government. After the investigation and any criminal proceedings in Sweden end, that restriction also ends and the Swedes can extradite him without reference to the UK government. But neither Sweden and the UK will extradite anyone to a country where the accused is in peril of the death sentence if convicted of an offence, or where prison conditions are so bad as to breach his rights under Article 3 of the ECHR (No one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment).
http://ffgqc.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/julian-the-asylum-seeker/
http://ffgqc.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/julian-the-asylum-seeker/
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Until you show evidence that there's an overt conspiracy to bring Assange to the US...
brooklynite
Aug 2012
#3
Assange haters (the ones who are not trolls) mostly fall into two groups
whatchamacallit
Aug 2012
#4
It's easier for the US to rendition people from Sweden than to extradite from the UK.
limpyhobbler
Aug 2012
#12