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OnDoutside

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105. I agree, you didn't, but that's kinda the point.

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 09:33 AM

Feb 2019

I'm saying the irony of being so hardline on this, is that potentially this is going hurt African Americans in Virginia, if it results in Republicans/Racists ripping back control. But sure at least you can keep your head held high, while the RW chop Virginians off at the knees.

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Justin Fairfax & Brett Kavanaugh [View all] Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 OP

Seriously, where were you guys yesterday? theboss Feb 2019 #1

Sorry Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #2

I forgive you....this time. theboss Feb 2019 #3

Thanks Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #21

Repeatedly drawing equivalences between our party Hortensis Feb 2019 #146

It is not drawing equivalences Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #148

The Fairfax case is not that complicated. brush Feb 2019 #76

Any posts on Kavanaugh by the way? Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #17

I wrote a brilliant unpublished essay called "My own personal Kavanaugh" theboss Feb 2019 #29

Here's my fucking Kavanaugh post theboss Feb 2019 #44

That was a bit over the top, don't you think? ehrnst Feb 2019 #106

As I already told you , no Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #78

Why are you not commenting on my Kavanaugh post? theboss Feb 2019 #84

I asked you a question. Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #85

And I gave you, I dunno, 1000 words that I wrote in September theboss Feb 2019 #87

No. Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #89

Do you want more Kavanaugh hate? theboss Feb 2019 #90

Easy now.... Interesting accusation there. ehrnst Feb 2019 #100

Yeah, this is getting fucking old. Making my blood fucking boil actually. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #143

You called a member of DU "freeper"? George II Feb 2019 #113

September? George II Feb 2019 #91

I pulled the essay from an email I sent on 9/28 theboss Feb 2019 #92

Have you ever tried decaf? marble falls Feb 2019 #96

That's really over the top, don't you think? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #98

And yet you return. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #101

Some of us would rather not be driven from our favorite Democratic forum... moriah Feb 2019 #115

And some of us would rather not see anyone - especially, given our ugly history, a black man - EffieBlack Feb 2019 #120

I agree that *assuming* he's guilty is wrong. moriah Feb 2019 #140

"I just think this can be discussed without sounding like Fox News did during the Kavanaugh hearings EffieBlack Feb 2019 #141

That's quite a strawman there. That or you meant to reply to someone else. ehrnst Feb 2019 #126

All I know is I've seen those arguments used, and they are terrible. moriah Feb 2019 #138

So is that a yes or no answer to my questions? ehrnst Feb 2019 #139

That I meant to respond to you? moriah Feb 2019 #142

I've been here... Drunken Irishman Feb 2019 #129

The hypocrisy is stunning. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #4

Every case is identical and the woman always to be believed? treestar Feb 2019 #5

Yes. The woman is always to be believed. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #54

In general, one must believe women. But one doesn't shirk investigative responsibility. ehrnst Feb 2019 #99

That is not justice. treestar Feb 2019 #102

+1000. It feeds a mistaken assumption that women and the metoo movement ehrnst Feb 2019 #104

Exactly EffieBlack Feb 2019 #108

Beautifully put. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #116

Are you asserting that Fairfax's accuser is "being used"? brooklynite Feb 2019 #103

No. You are doing that straw man overextension. treestar Feb 2019 #111

Didn't see that at all in the post. ehrnst Feb 2019 #117

Well I don't have a double standard. LisaL Feb 2019 #6

I'm intrigued by your views and wish to subscribe to you newsletter theboss Feb 2019 #64

Overt false equivalency noted, the situations aren't even close but I think you know that uponit7771 Feb 2019 #7

How are they different? This should be interesting. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #9

See my post above for a partial description of reason EffieBlack Feb 2019 #11

I don't see any post you made above mine. Look at the time stamps. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #16

Sorry - it's below EffieBlack Feb 2019 #18

BK had multiple accusations, lied multiple times regarding the situation and denied investigations uponit7771 Feb 2019 #12

Exactly EffieBlack Feb 2019 #15

Lied...when was a Lie proven? Just asking. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #19

Do you know who BK is? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #22

SCOTUS Judge...so? AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #30

So ... when you respond to a post about BK lying with EffieBlack Feb 2019 #37

If you assume that...shows you are wrong...I watched ever minute AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #45

The lies were proven after he made them, that's when. It was obvious he was lying about some of the uponit7771 Feb 2019 #27

So you still can't show lies...did Dr. Tyson lie? AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #33

I just did, ... did you pay attention to the hearings on BK at all? I believe Tyson enough to ... uponit7771 Feb 2019 #43

"..Ford never lied, her testimony was very credible.." AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #48

under oath was my context, nice try though ... better question, you got any proof she did lie?! tia uponit7771 Feb 2019 #51

People lie under oath all the time... AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #144

Someone accused Muller also I'll wait for the investigation uponit7771 Feb 2019 #147

Yep....idgits with NO credibility. Apples to cactus comparrison. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #149

To give one example dsc Feb 2019 #93

Why are you having to offer proof that Kavanaugh lied? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #95

There were only two MichMary Feb 2019 #20

Really? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #24

Sure. MichMary Feb 2019 #39

LOL EffieBlack Feb 2019 #50

"A person or two" MichMary Feb 2019 #53

I don't even know if that one person is actually being investigated by the FBI. Do you? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #56

Regardless, MichMary Feb 2019 #65

Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #26

See above n/t MichMary Feb 2019 #40

You've mentioned in previous posts things you've seen on FOX. Maybe you shouldn't rely on them for EffieBlack Feb 2019 #28

I don't MichMary Feb 2019 #42

So you don't believe the other women who accused BK? Why were they absurd and Tyson accusation uponit7771 Feb 2019 #59

See the links I provided above MichMary Feb 2019 #70

Are you saying don't believe the woman??? Unfuckinbelievable. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #55

Of course I'm saying that, also anyone who makes an accusation should be drowned in shallow ... uponit7771 Feb 2019 #57

That ship sailed.... AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #8

That's just NOT true EffieBlack Feb 2019 #10

+1, I'm sick of the false equivalencies uponit7771 Feb 2019 #13

Thanks for proving my point Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #35

Riiiight EffieBlack Feb 2019 #38

You're welcome nt Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #41

Facts matter uponit7771 Feb 2019 #46

My point is about a principal Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #47

"Kavanaugh's accuser produced substantial corroborating evidence,"... AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #36

Believe women. PERIOD. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #63

No. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #68

+1, this is part of what wasn't happening before #metoo uponit7771 Feb 2019 #75

Well said customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #69

So where were you on the Kavanaugh situation? Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #14

I believed Christine Blasey Ford Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #31

Sure thing. Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #32

I agree with you wildflower Feb 2019 #136

Thank you Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #137

That's all very highminded. The downside of viewing everything from the higher moral ground OnDoutside Feb 2019 #23

Never said that Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #34

I agree, you didn't, but that's kinda the point. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #105

Still not the point Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #110

I was including all three, but even with Fairfax, how is anyone to defend themselves against any OnDoutside Feb 2019 #122

And still not the point. Nt Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #125

Yes it is. Your OP is the essence of Pollyanna, to which I responded with a real life point that OnDoutside Feb 2019 #127

No it is not My OP was about a principle Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #128

Yes, the Pollyanna principle, for which there are consequences for African Americans in Virginia. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #131

No still not the point Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #132

No, your point is to destroy someone's life without evidence vs enough evidence in Kavanaugh's OnDoutside Feb 2019 #133

No I'm advocating a simple principle Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #134

Absolutely yes, it is a simple principle. If only life were as simple, which is where I disagree OnDoutside Feb 2019 #135

Wow--what an interesting thread. Kingofalldems Feb 2019 #25

#metoo doesn't mean guilt by accusation, #NoFranken2.0 !!! uponit7771 Feb 2019 #49

Well, as I recall, there was some evidence regarding the Kavanaugh accusation. MoonRiver Feb 2019 #52

What evidence was there on Dr. Ford's story specifically? LisaL Feb 2019 #58

Ford coming forward way before BK was put on a short list and BKs overt lying and avoiding an ... uponit7771 Feb 2019 #61

That's not evidence of a crime taking place. LisaL Feb 2019 #62

Goal post move, the question wasn't about a crime taking place but did I believe Ford. I did... uponit7771 Feb 2019 #67

She knew the address and that checked out. MoonRiver Feb 2019 #71

What address did she know? LisaL Feb 2019 #72

My memory isn't that good. MoonRiver Feb 2019 #73

Because I already know it's not accurate. LisaL Feb 2019 #74

Ouch! OnDoutside Feb 2019 #124

She didn't theboss Feb 2019 #81

There's also evidence to suggest something happened between Fairfax and Tyson... Drunken Irishman Feb 2019 #130

You didn't say what specific arguments you are referring to ooky Feb 2019 #60

+1, #metoo doesn't mean guilt by accusation. #NoFranken2.0!!! uponit7771 Feb 2019 #66

That is not the point. Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #79

And again, you didn't share any of the actual arguments you were objecting to in your OP ooky Feb 2019 #86

Still not the point Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #88

Teams? I wish, there arent teams anymore, there is literally decent patriots Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #77

THIS. +10,000. Hortensis Feb 2019 #145

This is bullshit dansolo Feb 2019 #80

Different cases Midnightwalk Feb 2019 #82

The lifetime appointment v. limited term elected office is an excellent point EffieBlack Feb 2019 #83

The two situations are completely different standingtall Feb 2019 #94

Not the point Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #97

Nobody here has proved any fricking point for you. Solomon Feb 2019 #107

Again not the point Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #109

You keep saying this to everyone who challenges what you've written Empowerer Feb 2019 #112

No some got it Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #114

I see Empowerer Feb 2019 #119

You either get it or Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #121

+1000 ooky Feb 2019 #118

Well said. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #123