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In reply to the discussion: I believe Vanessa Tyson for a couple of reasons. One of which is... [View all]Ms. Toad
(38,945 posts)74. The facts on which you premise Tyson's "obligation" to press charges
are incorrect.
She shared the information privately with friends in Virginia when it appeared he might become Lt Governor, so that her friends could make an informed decision about voting for someone who had abused her.
Years later, in October of 2017, I saw a picture of Mr. Fairfax accompanying an article in The Root about his campaign for Lt. Governor in Virginia. The image hit me like a ton of bricks, triggering buried traumatic memories and the feelings of humiliation Id felt so intensely back in 2004. Prior to reading the article, I had not followed Mr. Fairfaxs career and did not know that he was seeking public office. Unsure of what to do, I felt it was crucial to tell close friends of mine in Virginia, who were voters, about the assault.
When it appeared he might be elevated to governor, she shared information - again - with friends.
That night I vented my frustration on Facebook in a message that I wrote as a private post. I did not identify Lt. Governor Fairfax by name but stated that it seemed inevitable that the campaign staffer who assaulted me during the Democratic Convention in 2004 was about to get a big promotion. It was not my intention in that moment to inject myself into what has become a much larger political battle.
(At least) one of her friends outed her before she had made the decision to go public.
Over the weekend, I was undecided about whether to speak out publicly. I knew that if I did so, I would immediately face accusations about my motives and be branded a liar, as is routinely the case when women come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct against prominent men.
On Sunday night, before I had time to decide on a course of action, an online publication published a screenshot of my Facebook post, identified me by name, and posted pictures of me.
On Sunday night, before I had time to decide on a course of action, an online publication published a screenshot of my Facebook post, identified me by name, and posted pictures of me.
Once outed (i.e. control as to whether to go public taken from her), and facing lies by Fairfax about why the Post did not publish the story, she responded with a single statement that she says will be her sole statement on the matter.
In response, at 2:55 a.m. on February 4, 2019, Mr. Fairfax issued a statement further escalating this matter by calling me a liar and falsely characterizing the reasons The Washington Post decided not to run a story about my allegations. The Post was forced to repudiate Mr. Fairfaxs statement that there were significant red flags and inconsistencies with the allegations which led it to decide not to publish a story about my account. Rather, as is often the case in situations where sexual assault by an acquaintance occurs behind closed doors years earlier, it is difficult to corroborate either the victims allegations or the accusers denials.
. . .
My only motive in speaking now is to refute Mr. Fairfaxs falsehoods and aspersions of my character, and to provide what I believe is important information for Virginians to have as they make critical decisions that involve Mr. Fairfax.
. . .
My only motive in speaking now is to refute Mr. Fairfaxs falsehoods and aspersions of my character, and to provide what I believe is important information for Virginians to have as they make critical decisions that involve Mr. Fairfax.
No survivor, ever, is obligated to subject herself to torment of the the court system. That applies even when she chooses to speak out publicly against her abuser - and especially when she speaks out publicly only after third parties publish her story without her consent, and in response to public assertions she is a liar.
To insist otherwise is insensitive to rape survivors, and antithetical to the principles of the #metoo movement.
(Note: She did approach the Post earlier with her story, which it declined to publish. That approach did not result in a public statement against Fairfax. The recent publication of the accusation was, ultimately, without her consent; her first public statement was a direct response to Fairfax's response to the third party (unauthorized) publication, and to his announcement about the earlier non-publication by the Post)
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So, you believe that Justin Fairfax is a rapist because people you don't know and who don't know
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#4
Asking why a woman who has come forward to publicly accuse a man of rape but refuses to
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#15
Are you a rape survivor? Because I think you are disingenuous to not acknowledge the reality-
58Sunliner
Feb 2019
#47
The statute of limitations had run by the time Dr. Ford came forward, so she couldn't "report" it
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#76
Press charges? 15 years ago...he said /she said. There will be no evidence.
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#117
The AP are a bunch of right wing stooges who farmed a random attorney with an opinion.
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2019
#100
But what matters is what the statute of limitations was at the time of the crime.
pnwmom
Feb 2019
#109
The legal situation seems murky and no conclusion was ever reached because Ford didn't pursue it.
pnwmom
Feb 2019
#122
I'm not the only person who thought Kavanaugh might have faced a kidnapping charge
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2019
#106
I'll stick with the opinion of the previous Maryland Deputy Attorney General and Lawrence Tribe
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2019
#99
They're both correct that Maryland HAS no statute of limitations for rape and felony assault
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#128
If he disagrees with me and thinks a statute of limitations passed after 1982 applies to a 1982 case
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#146
You still haven't learned you don't come for the Queen unless she sends for you?
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#103
So, you're saying that a woman who has publicly made an accusation, an accusation that she put out
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#77
No. Her first public statement was her Facebook post that she allowed to be shared to the public
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#138
"tools that society provides her to actually follow through - including the criminal justice system"
progressoid
Feb 2019
#126
Now a 2nd woman has come forward when she should've followed your advice & gone to the cops instead.
progressoid
Feb 2019
#132
You seem to be having trouble following my point, so I will break it down for you.
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#135
Now that I've revealed my background in my brillaint Kavanaugh essay, I'll do you one better
theboss
Feb 2019
#11
I'm guessing I'm the only poster here who could, like, send her an email if I really wanted to
theboss
Feb 2019
#21
While I appreciate your sincerity, we have a legal system that relies on principles of justice
pnwmom
Feb 2019
#98
you must have missed the threads that if she went into his room, she should have expected sex
Fresh_Start
Feb 2019
#17
No, it's too enable people to talk about sexual violence and be believed. It's not a revenge fantasy
theboss
Feb 2019
#102
You did read that and no she did not say it was a repressed memory. A poster pushed that
Autumn
Feb 2019
#14
I had not heard that. Honestly that sounds like it could have been therapist produced.
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#112
I don't know and I wouldn't presume to guess. I'm going with what Dr. Tyson said and
Autumn
Feb 2019
#116
Have you ever done something, or had something happen to you that was so humiliating
Autumn
Feb 2019
#25
I have no clue why you would have to call something like this a suppressed or buried memory.
LisaL
Feb 2019
#27
I didn't call it anything. A poster asked and I told the poster what Dr. Tyson said.
Autumn
Feb 2019
#28
You are certainly entitled to how you deal with your memories, as is Dr. Tyson on how
Autumn
Feb 2019
#43
In matters of a sexual nature there's a world of difference between women and animals.
Autumn
Feb 2019
#60
In Dr. Tysons letter? I haven't seen a report. She used the term suppressed not repressed. nt
Autumn
Feb 2019
#31
As I wrote above (and was mocked for), I have a first-hand account of her character
theboss
Feb 2019
#26
So if a woman makes an accusation against your father, brother, husband or male friend,
Vinca
Feb 2019
#40
Why doesn't Fairfax deserve the benefit of the doubt? This is a very old accusation...
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#63
It could be personal. Maybe he angered her in some way...it has happened before.
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#80
Then it's not Republican ratfucking...unless she's a Republican and has been lying in her career
theboss
Feb 2019
#81
Not neccesarily...if she complained an it was reported back to the GOP, they could have found out...
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#83
This has happened. you know that. My feeling is we will never know and I find it unfair
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#87
We'll put you down for not believing women. Does that go for Doctor Ford and Kavanaugh?
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2019
#91
Dr. Ford was in a different situation. First of all she was a child. Secondly' she had no
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#115
I don't see the difference between supressed or repressed...just so you know I was the victim of
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#121
Second of all, her being a child at the time of the attempted rape has nothing do with it.
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2019
#120
I don't agree with that. But if charges are not filed, how do you sort it out decades later?
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#123
One doesn't even have to believe this is ratf*cking to give Fairfax the benefit of the doubt
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#72
That is true. Lot's of hearts Effie! You are beloved on DU...I am sadly out of pocket with hubs
Demsrule86
Feb 2019
#85
I wonder, if Fairfax had stayed an obscure lawyer, & she bumped into him years later in a restaurant
Demit
Feb 2019
#88
These things need to be in a separate forum. Every day we get a new revelation of wrong doing
wasupaloopa
Feb 2019
#101
This is the woman being slandered as a liar who was asking for it by going to the hotel
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2019
#107