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EffieBlack

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141. Yes, I do

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 07:36 PM

Feb 2019

If they are publicly alleging that a crime was committed and the statute of limitations has not run, they should file a criminal complaint. If they are willing to talk publicly to a newspaper or put out a detailed written statement to the general public, they should be willing to talk to and give a statement to the police if a criminal avenue is still available to them. At least if they are actually seeking justice, rather than revenge.

And, in fact Cosby is in jail because someone did just that. She was the ONLY one of his many victims who had a claim on which the statute of limitations had not run. And several of Weinstein's accusers and at least one of Spacey's accusers have also filed a criminal complaints against them.

That's how it's SUPPOSED to work.

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I believe Vanessa Tyson for a couple of reasons. One of which is... [View all] LexVegas Feb 2019 OP

#MeToo InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #1

Agree. Bleacher Creature Feb 2019 #2

#metoo doesn't mean guilt by accusation, #NoFranken2.0 !!! uponit7771 Feb 2019 #3

So, you believe that Justin Fairfax is a rapist because people you don't know and who don't know EffieBlack Feb 2019 #4

Because "why didn't they press charges" sounds like victim blaming to me LexVegas Feb 2019 #10

Asking why a woman who has come forward to publicly accuse a man of rape but refuses to EffieBlack Feb 2019 #15

Are you a rape survivor? Because I think you are disingenuous to not acknowledge the reality- 58Sunliner Feb 2019 #47

I fully understand that EffieBlack Feb 2019 #53

That's quite a catch 22 theboss Feb 2019 #66

No, dear, that's not what I said EffieBlack Feb 2019 #69

So you have to report the crime first - Even 30 years later? theboss Feb 2019 #75

The statute of limitations had run by the time Dr. Ford came forward, so she couldn't "report" it EffieBlack Feb 2019 #76

I can email her if you want. (Seriously, I have this ability) theboss Feb 2019 #78

Is everything ok? Empowerer Feb 2019 #82

Ok.... ehrnst Feb 2019 #89

Press charges? 15 years ago...he said /she said. There will be no evidence. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #117

The statute of limitations is not up on the Kavanaugh case. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #84

This AP report says that the charges that would have applied to Kavanaugh pnwmom Feb 2019 #94

The AP are a bunch of right wing stooges who farmed a random attorney with an opinion. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #100

But what matters is what the statute of limitations was at the time of the crime. pnwmom Feb 2019 #109

You are looking only at the misdemeanor offense. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #111

Was that the case in 1984 or whatever year this was? theboss Feb 2019 #114

The legal situation seems murky and no conclusion was ever reached because Ford didn't pursue it. pnwmom Feb 2019 #122

I'm not the only person who thought Kavanaugh might have faced a kidnapping charge Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #106

You are incorrect. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #95

I'll stick with the opinion of the previous Maryland Deputy Attorney General and Lawrence Tribe Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #99

They're both correct that Maryland HAS no statute of limitations for rape and felony assault EffieBlack Feb 2019 #128

Again: Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #131

He. Doesn't. Disagree. With. Me. About. Current. Maryland. Law. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #139

Yes he does disagree with you about the applicable law. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #142

If he disagrees with me and thinks a statute of limitations passed after 1982 applies to a 1982 case EffieBlack Feb 2019 #146

Why do you even bother trying to reason with these people, sister girl? Empowerer Feb 2019 #147

I ask myself that all the time EffieBlack Feb 2019 #150

Attempted rape is not the same as assault with intent to rape. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #148

You still haven't learned you don't come for the Queen unless she sends for you? Empowerer Feb 2019 #103

You might want to read a little further. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #105

No, I don't need to Empowerer Feb 2019 #143

The facts on which you premise Tyson's "obligation" to press charges Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #74

So, you're saying that a woman who has publicly made an accusation, an accusation that she put out EffieBlack Feb 2019 #77

No. I'm saying it is entirely her choice as to whether she presses charges. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #130

Of course, it's her choice EffieBlack Feb 2019 #133

You're still twisting the truth Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #136

No. Her first public statement was her Facebook post that she allowed to be shared to the public EffieBlack Feb 2019 #138

"tools that society provides her to actually follow through - including the criminal justice system" progressoid Feb 2019 #126

Yes. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #129

Now a 2nd woman has come forward when she should've followed your advice & gone to the cops instead. progressoid Feb 2019 #132

You seem to be having trouble following my point, so I will break it down for you. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #135

That's an interesting tactic. progressoid Feb 2019 #140

Yes, I do EffieBlack Feb 2019 #141

I've read Dr. Tyson's statement. progressoid Feb 2019 #145

That would be comparable to asking someone if they had ever been subject to pnwmom Feb 2019 #97

Now that I've revealed my background in my brillaint Kavanaugh essay, I'll do you one better theboss Feb 2019 #11

"So, take that as you will." OilemFirchen Feb 2019 #18

I'm guessing I'm the only poster here who could, like, send her an email if I really wanted to theboss Feb 2019 #21

You do that, big guy. OilemFirchen Feb 2019 #24

Who said that she's "a mentally ill loon being used by Roger Fucking Stone?" ehrnst Feb 2019 #57

I'll guess that's a "No, I don't have any links." ehrnst Feb 2019 #93

While I appreciate your sincerity, we have a legal system that relies on principles of justice pnwmom Feb 2019 #98

.... ehrnst Feb 2019 #92

Effie, you have a way with words that get right to the heart of the matter. brush Feb 2019 #54

+1000 Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #118

I believe her because her actions mirrored mine in non-reporting Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #5

Thats one of the disgusting things I've read: "Why didn't she press charges?" LexVegas Feb 2019 #13

you must have missed the threads that if she went into his room, she should have expected sex Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #17

I saw that one too. Wish I had not. nt LexVegas Feb 2019 #19

"He then took my hand and pulled me towards the bed" Demit Feb 2019 #79

I haven't asked and wouldn't ask why she didn't press charges. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #56

No, it's too enable people to talk about sexual violence and be believed. It's not a revenge fantasy theboss Feb 2019 #102

Seems we have got to the point where our morals are fluid ripcord Feb 2019 #149

I assume no police report? Pantagruel Feb 2019 #6

I believe Vanessa Tyson. I understand her not reporting it since it was just Autumn Feb 2019 #7

Did she say this was a repressed memory? Drahthaardogs Feb 2019 #8

You did read that and no she did not say it was a repressed memory. A poster pushed that Autumn Feb 2019 #14

She called it a suppressed memory and a buried memory. LisaL Feb 2019 #16

Here is the letter, she said she felt shame and humiliation and Autumn Feb 2019 #22

I had not heard that. Honestly that sounds like it could have been therapist produced. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #112

I don't know and I wouldn't presume to guess. I'm going with what Dr. Tyson said and Autumn Feb 2019 #116

I just can't support either of them. There is insufficient information. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #124

What does that mean? Drahthaardogs Feb 2019 #20

Have you ever done something, or had something happen to you that was so humiliating Autumn Feb 2019 #25

I have no clue why you would have to call something like this a suppressed or buried memory. LisaL Feb 2019 #27

I didn't call it anything. A poster asked and I told the poster what Dr. Tyson said. Autumn Feb 2019 #28

She called it both suppressed and buried. LisaL Feb 2019 #34

She said she suppressed it and got on with her education. When she saw him the Autumn Feb 2019 #42

I crushed my spine and went into shock Drahthaardogs Feb 2019 #41

You are certainly entitled to how you deal with your memories, as is Dr. Tyson on how Autumn Feb 2019 #43

Well, I don't. Drahthaardogs Feb 2019 #44

In matters of a sexual nature there's a world of difference between women and animals. Autumn Feb 2019 #60

Wrong. It's right there in her report n/t kcr Feb 2019 #30

In Dr. Tysons letter? I haven't seen a report. She used the term suppressed not repressed. nt Autumn Feb 2019 #31

This is from her statement. LAS14 Feb 2019 #29

It is open to interpretation. LisaL Feb 2019 #32

Just a comment. Everyone insisted in calling Christine Ford "DOCTOR Ford" IluvPitties Feb 2019 #9

Presently, she's given me absolutely no reason for me to think she's lying. BlueStater Feb 2019 #12

As I wrote above (and was mocked for), I have a first-hand account of her character theboss Feb 2019 #26

I believe both of them. OilemFirchen Feb 2019 #23

I don't "believe" her or him Jarqui Feb 2019 #33

Not sure about the "only one of them can be"... regnaD kciN Feb 2019 #45

LOLLLL. 58Sunliner Feb 2019 #50

He maintains they were in communication for months afterwards Jarqui Feb 2019 #52

Oh so that automatically means she's telling the truth? Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #35

... LexVegas Feb 2019 #36

So you've got nothing... We're done here, thanks for playing. Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #37

... LexVegas Feb 2019 #39

It is far too convenient Apollyonus Feb 2019 #38

Uh...what? regnaD kciN Feb 2019 #46

ummmmmm Apollyonus Feb 2019 #48

Ummm Indeed Me. Feb 2019 #51

So she's going to falsely accuse another Democrat... regnaD kciN Feb 2019 #55

So if a woman makes an accusation against your father, brother, husband or male friend, Vinca Feb 2019 #40

I neither believe nor disbelieve Fairfax and Tyson. David__77 Feb 2019 #49

I'm with you. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #58

Same here. Need more info. But there's more to it. Hortensis Feb 2019 #59

... Baltimike Feb 2019 #61

... LexVegas Feb 2019 #62

Lex, I want to hear from both sides DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #64

They don't know or don't care to know. nt LexVegas Feb 2019 #65

Lex, they need to familiarize themselves DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #67

If he ratfucking in Virginia succeeds...this will never end. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #71

Why doesn't Fairfax deserve the benefit of the doubt? This is a very old accusation... Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #63

Should we investigate Dr. Tyson's finances? theboss Feb 2019 #68

I don't know...was she paid ? I had not heard this. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #70

If it's Republican ratfucking, it would make sense theboss Feb 2019 #73

It could be personal. Maybe he angered her in some way...it has happened before. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #80

Then it's not Republican ratfucking...unless she's a Republican and has been lying in her career theboss Feb 2019 #81

Not neccesarily...if she complained an it was reported back to the GOP, they could have found out... Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #83

The old "woman scorned" defense to rape allegations. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #86

This has happened. you know that. My feeling is we will never know and I find it unfair Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #87

We'll put you down for not believing women. Does that go for Doctor Ford and Kavanaugh? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #91

Dr. Ford was in a different situation. First of all she was a child. Secondly' she had no Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #115

It was not a "suppressed memory" thing so knock that shit off Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #119

I don't see the difference between supressed or repressed...just so you know I was the victim of Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #121

Second of all, her being a child at the time of the attempted rape has nothing do with it. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #120

I don't agree with that. But if charges are not filed, how do you sort it out decades later? Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #123

Charges being filed is a red herring. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #125

Some of these responses are antediluvian. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #108

Where did that come from? ehrnst Feb 2019 #90

One doesn't even have to believe this is ratf*cking to give Fairfax the benefit of the doubt EffieBlack Feb 2019 #72

That is true. Lot's of hearts Effie! You are beloved on DU...I am sadly out of pocket with hubs Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #85

Your post is worth a thousand hearts!!! EffieBlack Feb 2019 #96

Thank you that means a great deal. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #110

I wonder, if Fairfax had stayed an obscure lawyer, & she bumped into him years later in a restaurant Demit Feb 2019 #88

These things need to be in a separate forum. Every day we get a new revelation of wrong doing wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #101

Vanessa Tyson is an African American Democratic scholar DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #104

This is the woman being slandered as a liar who was asking for it by going to the hotel Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #107

Seems like a solid woman of the left. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #113

Maybe a forum called, EllieBC Feb 2019 #127

More women are coming forward madville Feb 2019 #134

OK, that's what I wanted Pantagruel Feb 2019 #137

I don't believe or not believe her. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #144