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In reply to the discussion: Justin Fairfax is not being Franken'd [View all]Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)1. Franken was accused of harassment...the allegations were what most would call minor in nature (a gag pretending to cup a fully clothed in uniform sleeping woman's breasts, but did not touch them; putting his hand around the waist of someone he agreed to do a selfie for and grabbing a bit of flesh; telling someone that because he's a celebrity he can kiss her).
2. Fairfax is accused of rape and sexual assault (or whatever you called forced oral sex). Forced oral sex; forcible rape.
Although, there is corroboration of Fairfax accusation of rape: She told friends at the time, and they have stated that that is so, and that they believed it to be true.
3. Franken - no evidence, pro or con, of any sort, because no evidence was given under oath; "evidence" are facts that are sworn to or presented under possibility of perjury.
4. Fairfax - same is true for Fairfax, although it is pretty early in the accusation phase.
The level of the alleged offenses is very different. Fairfax's are on a different level. We're talking prison level. Although it won't go to Court. Franken would never be charged with a crime for pulling a gag where he pretends to touch someone's fully clothes breasts while she sleeps...he was a comedian, so logical that that was a joke and disrespectful at most, but not criminal.
They are alike only in the sense that "Me,too" women have made some accusations against politicians related to sex in some way.
They are also alike in that both, IMO, were coordinated manipulations by Republicans. In Franken's case, the accusations may or may not have been true, but rather, falsely alleged. Maybe, maybe not. In Fairfax's case, the accusations seem to be genuine, but no doubt the Republicans arranged getting those accusations verbalized and publicized.
They are different in that Franken was used by other politicians early on for grandstanding, to further their own careers, IMO. I haven't seen that yet with Fairfax. If they are not Virginia voters, any politician calling for his ouster is grandstanding, IMO, unless the politician is a leader who has the authority to speak for the Democratic Party as a whole. Even then, the most that leader can request is for him to leave the party. No one not in Virginia has any authority or right to tell Virginia officials to resign.