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In reply to the discussion: How about we do this? We don't demand people resign without an investigation being completed [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)12. Losing your vote will signal Gilead. I suggest you take a good look
at children too small to understand crying in cages and understand -- the evil revealed can and will be turned against American citizens. You and yours are not safe. It is happening here, and we must stop it.
"Gilead is a city of those who work iniquity; it is stained with blood" (Hosea 6:8).
NY Times, Paul Krugman -- Why It Can Happen Here: Were very close to becoming another Poland or Hungary.
... And it could all too easily happen here. There was a time, not long ago, when people used to say that our democratic norms, our proud history of freedom, would protect us from such a slide into tyranny. In fact, some people still say that. But believing such a thing today requires willful blindness. The fact is that the Republican Party is ready, even eager, to become an American version of Law and Justice or Fidesz, exploiting its current political power to lock in permanent rule.
Just look at what has been happening at the state level. ...
What about developments at the national level? Thats where things get really scary. Were currently sitting on a knife edge. If we fall off it in the wrong direction specifically, if Republicans retain control of both houses of Congress in November we will become another Poland or Hungary faster than you can imagine. ...
This week Axios created a bit of a stir with a scoop about a spreadsheet circulating among Republicans in Congress, ... Party loyalty will prevail over constitutional responsibility.
A year ago it seemed possible that there might be limits to the partys complicity, that there would come a point where at least a few representatives or senators would say, no more. Now its clear that there are no limits: Theyll do whatever it takes to defend Trump and consolidate power. ...
But why is America, the birthplace of democracy, so close to following the lead of other countries that have recently destroyed it? Dont tell me about economic anxiety. Thats not what happened in Poland, which grew steadily through the financial crisis and its aftermath. And its not what happened here in 2016: Study after study has found that racial resentment, not economic distress, drove Trump voters.
The point is that were suffering from the same disease white nationalism run wild that has already effectively killed democracy in some other Western nations. And were very, very close to the point of no return.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/opinion/trump-republican-party-authoritarianism.html
... And it could all too easily happen here. There was a time, not long ago, when people used to say that our democratic norms, our proud history of freedom, would protect us from such a slide into tyranny. In fact, some people still say that. But believing such a thing today requires willful blindness. The fact is that the Republican Party is ready, even eager, to become an American version of Law and Justice or Fidesz, exploiting its current political power to lock in permanent rule.
Just look at what has been happening at the state level. ...
What about developments at the national level? Thats where things get really scary. Were currently sitting on a knife edge. If we fall off it in the wrong direction specifically, if Republicans retain control of both houses of Congress in November we will become another Poland or Hungary faster than you can imagine. ...
This week Axios created a bit of a stir with a scoop about a spreadsheet circulating among Republicans in Congress, ... Party loyalty will prevail over constitutional responsibility.
A year ago it seemed possible that there might be limits to the partys complicity, that there would come a point where at least a few representatives or senators would say, no more. Now its clear that there are no limits: Theyll do whatever it takes to defend Trump and consolidate power. ...
But why is America, the birthplace of democracy, so close to following the lead of other countries that have recently destroyed it? Dont tell me about economic anxiety. Thats not what happened in Poland, which grew steadily through the financial crisis and its aftermath. And its not what happened here in 2016: Study after study has found that racial resentment, not economic distress, drove Trump voters.
The point is that were suffering from the same disease white nationalism run wild that has already effectively killed democracy in some other Western nations. And were very, very close to the point of no return.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/opinion/trump-republican-party-authoritarianism.html
He's leaving out those among the 70,000 newly ultrawealthy families who are harnessing the "culture wars" for energy to dispose of a democracy they've decided intolerably obstructs their lives, their liberties, and their pursuits of happiness. But you get the idea, I hope.
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How about we do this? We don't demand people resign without an investigation being completed [View all]
maxrandb
Feb 2019
OP
ANYONE could be FALSELY accused of a crime, including Obama. In fact, he was accused
pnwmom
Feb 2019
#73
No. Then the Jacob Wohls of the world could derail almost any Democratic career. n/t
pnwmom
Feb 2019
#72
Well, aside from the very questionable football helmet avatar you have here,
PatrickforO
Feb 2019
#5
Why not encourage Dr. Tyson to file a police report so professionals can investigate?
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#19
Plenty of investigations, criminal and non, come to conclusions of no wrongdoing all the time.
WhiskeyGrinder
Feb 2019
#25
It's very bizarre to claim that Dr. Tyson shouldn't file charges because there may not be enough
EffieBlack
Feb 2019
#80
Right, criminal allegations should get criminal investigations, as well as internal ones if needed.
WhiskeyGrinder
Feb 2019
#81
I agree just because I fear this will be used against us. I fear we will be set up in a big way
UniteFightBack
Feb 2019
#26
I did. I don't care who it is; I belive in evidence, and I abhor usubstantiated allegations
LongtimeAZDem
Feb 2019
#87
As strange as accusations against Franken not long after the Senate Jeff Sessions hearing....
Honeycombe8
Feb 2019
#37
It's up to the voters of Virginia. It's for them to work out what to do. nt
Honeycombe8
Feb 2019
#38
Didn't you demand CBS be "required" to take down a poll you disagreed with?
AncientGeezer
Feb 2019
#60