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LuckyCharms

(22,558 posts)
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:52 AM Feb 2019

Benefit of Single Payer that is not often discussed. [View all]

Many people don't realize that while they usually see a large deduction from their gross pay for health insurance in their check stub, their employer is also bearing the burden of that cost.

Depending on the risk pool that an employer's medical insurance company places the employees of the insured company in, the employee premiums can be tremendously high. The employer usually shares the cost of the premium. I have generally seen a 50/50 share.

Single payer has the potential of eliminating both the employer's and employee's share of the premium. The employer would incur zero premium cost, and while the employee would incur some type of "tax" deduction which contributes to the single payer system, it would not approach the premiums previously deducted from his or her paycheck because the employee is now contributing to a pool where risk is diversified over a large percentage of the US population, and not the much smaller base of the employees working for their particular company.

The benefits to the employee in this case are obvious. But the benefits of single payer to the employer are hardly ever discussed. The employer no longer pays 50% of their employee's medical insurance premiums. This substantial cost is no longer a hindrance to the bottom line. A significant amount of cashflow is freed up. Profits improve, and therefore, stock prices improve for public companies. Private companies are benefited in the same manor by an improved net income. More employees can be hired, more profit can be taken by owners, businesses can be expanded, quality employees can be retained by giving them more frequent raises, and these employees then in turn pump more money into the economy, etc.

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and bad employers might be forced to improve... wcmagumba Feb 2019 #1
Yes, good point. n/t LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #2
I for one have never understood why large corporations are not Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #3
I don't understand it either. LuckyCharms Feb 2019 #4
Agreed Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #5
Big 3 lost a lot of plants to Canada safeinOhio Feb 2019 #14
Because it is just payroll to employers. riverine Feb 2019 #7
"move to single payer and get that cost off their balance sheets" mitch96 Feb 2019 #13
As I recall, $1,000 of every American car's cost is because of health insurance costs Ron Obvious Feb 2019 #16
Because it's cheaper no benefits at all Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #21
We pay 100% of our employee's health/dental insurance, long term care, and life. One Hundred Percent Stinky The Clown Feb 2019 #6
Single payer would also be a great benefit to people who want to do strictly AJT Feb 2019 #8
Single payer dugog55 Feb 2019 #9
Here's a simplistic example that folks do not discuss much Jarqui Feb 2019 #10
Your employer should pay you the amount they spend on your premium. mjvpi Feb 2019 #11
My employer provides coverage, paying 1/2 the premium forthemiddle Feb 2019 #22
Absolutely shanti Feb 2019 #12
K&R ck4829 Feb 2019 #15
It's not discussed because corporations intend to just pocket that savings if single payer ever brewens Feb 2019 #17
And this is a big problem, actually Recursion Feb 2019 #18
It's the sole reason US manufactured goods are not competitive on the world market pecosbob Feb 2019 #19
it would also be a boon to people trying to start their own business NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #20
on that note crazycatlady Feb 2019 #23
If someone could come up with a simple explanation of the benefits of single payer and eliminate Poiuyt Feb 2019 #24
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