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In reply to the discussion: Israel is not a race or a religion [View all]Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)66. Europeans came to the "New World" and took the land from the indigenous people.
The UN took the land where Jews and Arabs lived and made a new country without the permission of the majority of people living there. As far as can be determined, what is now Israel is part of what used to be Phoenicia. It has been ruled by many different people through wars as the U.S. did in the Southwest. Now Israel is increasing its size through allowing Jewish settlements on Palestinian land. 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. Does that give them the right to take over someone else's land?
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Claiming lobbyist groups putting money into congresses pockets is now anti Semitic tropes
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#103
If you trashed Bibi and the entire reason Israel is in place after 1948 that is not antisemitism.
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#34
I can certainly talk about what Israel has done bad without being anti semitic.
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#63
I don't believe that ANY country has a "right to exist", including my own.
Crunchy Frog
Feb 2019
#111
Do you have a link? For whatever reason, the text is showing as characters rather than letters. N/T
lapucelle
Feb 2019
#28
I found it and was able to read the entire piece for additional context. Thanks. N/T
lapucelle
Feb 2019
#42
She spoke specifically about a political action committee, not a religion or ethnicity
Dennis Donovan
Feb 2019
#19
Yes they are because they Lobby for pro Israel policy. Hard not to have associations there.
lancelyons
Feb 2019
#35
Who are you to suggest that I'm taking things "at face value" and have not dug deeply enough?
Nonhlanhla
Feb 2019
#106
It is possible to criticize Israel without invoking antediluvian anti-semitic tropes, yes?
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#41
They don't say "all", they simply say it individually about every single example
Recursion
Feb 2019
#98
AIPAC's mission is to attribute all criticism of Israel to anti-semitism?
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2019
#100
Similarly, if you disagree with Fat Donnie's policies, it does not make you a Trump-hater,
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
Feb 2019
#48
True. But at the same time, the criticism must use a scalpel, not a kitchen knife.
Honeycombe8
Feb 2019
#49
Europeans came to the "New World" and took the land from the indigenous people.
Cold War Spook
Feb 2019
#66