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AncientGeezer

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38. There's your misunderstanging of the 9th...

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 07:02 PM

Feb 2019

"The people of the United States have an absolute right to have their government kept running smoothly. " That is not in the 9th..not even close.
The 9th says...and I quote..."The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." Again referring to people NOT the Federal Govt....it's easy reading.

Has ZERO to do with how the budgetary process works.
Ok....good... we should be clear on that...I would hope.

The House has their rules based on direct representation of the "people" in their districts...The Senate which represents the States...not the people..have a different set of rules.
It's not rocket science....your premise is flawed..I get your passion but shut downs are perfectly legal...and Constitutionally so.

Shut downs are not new.....

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Another Shutdown? How can any shutdown be legal? [View all] Huin Feb 2019 OP

What does the 10th Amendment have to do with it? brooklynite Feb 2019 #1

You may be surprised Huin Feb 2019 #13

Yes, there's an option, under difficult conditions, for States to change the Constitution... brooklynite Feb 2019 #17

I agree Huin Feb 2019 #24

How Can Not Paying Workers be Legal? dlk Feb 2019 #2

It's not per the FLSA, but that's a civil crime and not a criminal one Major Nikon Feb 2019 #9

There will not be another shutdown come Friday malaise Feb 2019 #3

Don the Con: "Hold my Diet Coke". smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #5

Second that n/t obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #6

Even if he does it won't last long Major Nikon Feb 2019 #10

Man you made me laugh malaise Feb 2019 #11

This is wildly wrong manor321 Feb 2019 #4

You are correct in part. Huin Feb 2019 #16

You are misreading the 10th..and 9th individual rights.. The Bill of Rights AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #7

Interesting but lets talk about it. Huin Feb 2019 #18

I'm not misreading either...they have ZERO to do with the bugetary process. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #28

What does the 9th say? Huin Feb 2019 #31

There's your misunderstanging of the 9th... AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #38

Read the 10th Amendment in conjunction with the ninth Huin Feb 2019 #41

The govt is never "shut down"... AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #42

You are right the 10th says nothing of the Federal budget process. Huin Feb 2019 #43

So, back in the day.... Turbineguy Feb 2019 #8

Obligatory nod BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #15

Strange. Turbineguy Feb 2019 #21

Well... BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #25

You made me look. Turbineguy Feb 2019 #30

Could depend on which BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #32

Right you are. Huin Feb 2019 #20

What really burns me is that THEY (and you know who THEY are) Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #12

He needs money to pay his people Huin Feb 2019 #23

Any POTUS can veto ANY spending bill....Peroid. And it's Constitutional. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #40

Sorry, but you need to look at the constitution and abide by it. Huin Feb 2019 #44

You are wrong..but you have shown that several times in this thread AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #45

That's why I explained to you what I meant by it Huin Feb 2019 #46

I did....others in this OP have. Art.1 Sec. 9 SS.7 clearly describes the process for funding. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #47

"How can any shutdown be legal?" BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #14

thank you for sanity. n/t 912gdm Feb 2019 #19

You also raise an excellent point. Huin Feb 2019 #22

In response to this BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #26

Impressed by the complexity of this Huin Feb 2019 #34

The "shutdowns" are relatively "new" in the history of the country BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #35

Not a lot of lawyers up this morning? HopeAgain Feb 2019 #27

What do you mean and what does the 10th stand for? Huin Feb 2019 #36

Nothing in the 10th Amendment give States power to control the federal government HopeAgain Feb 2019 #37

Legality has never been duforsure Feb 2019 #29

Bingo! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #33

Trump has got us chasing our tails. Manipulation is the game. jalan48 Feb 2019 #39