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24. Except, it's not like there was $3 Billion in bank. NYC was forging $3 B

Reply to eleny (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 16, 2019, 04:41 PM

Feb 2019

in future IF Amazon met certain goals. Those employees would have paid a lot in taxes to fund other things.

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NY Dem Congresswoman Goes Off on Opposition to Amazon HQ2: 'Now We're Protesting Jobs?' [View all] DonViejo Feb 2019 OP

Maloney is wrong. We don't need this massive corporate welfare for the superrich manor321 Feb 2019 #1

They are protesting corporate welfare, $3 billion in tax abatements. muntrv Feb 2019 #2

Governor Cuomo said the state would get back $9 in taxes for every $1 in incentives. former9thward Feb 2019 #84

Good point. "I'm a progressive too, but I'm pragmatic," Maloney (Democrat in District) responded. Hoyt Feb 2019 #3

Not progressive enough to stand up for unions, though. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2019 #13

Progressive enough to know that if we want healthcare, education, etc., someone Hoyt Feb 2019 #15

Not all corporations are as vehemently anti-union as Amazon. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2019 #22

Not progressive enough to refuse to market and distribute books through Amazon... lapucelle Feb 2019 #27

OK, this will be used on AOC DonCoquixote Feb 2019 #4

Any company that brings 25,000 jobs Apollyonus Feb 2019 #33

I suggest you read DonCoquixote Feb 2019 #50

Those jobs would not have gone to the local community. NYC Liberal Feb 2019 #5

+1 Anon-C Feb 2019 #31

With an avg of 150k across 25k jobs they are looking for exact fits. Afromania Feb 2019 #36

Cleveland and other small cities need Amazon way more than NYC sharedvalues Feb 2019 #6

Bernie said said the feds should cut off highway funds to states that undercut each other. mjvpi Feb 2019 #55

Protesting crap wage jobs that will only enslave people Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #7

These would have been tech jobs Apollyonus Feb 2019 #34

Agree w/Maloney radius777 Feb 2019 #8

I've been a Californian for 33 years, grew up here Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #12

CA and WA were conservative Western states radius777 Feb 2019 #17

Bullshit Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #18

Yes and same with Seattle and Amazon. You described the situation accurately. suffragette Feb 2019 #25

WA still has no income tax radius777 Feb 2019 #56

WA is a divided purple state, mostly Republican east of the Cascades. Seattle is solidly blue and so suffragette Feb 2019 #62

Why are you bringing up Gates Sr.? former9thward Feb 2019 #90

Gates Sr. was the one who pushed for an income tax in WA last go around Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #92

Addressing the poster's point about progressiveness and income tax in WA and pointing out some suffragette Feb 2019 #94

Rahm Emanuel Made Interesting Comments on Last Night's Real Time dlk Feb 2019 #9

Saw Emanuel last night. Expected people to bash him today like they did Hoyt Feb 2019 #21

I thought he was excellent last night, and made many valid points OnDoutside Feb 2019 #88

Another treat for chuck toads " Dem's in disarray"narrative kimbutgar Feb 2019 #10

Protesting SHITTY jobs. And an inevitable affordable housing shortage. TygrBright Feb 2019 #11

Yeah, the jobs averaged $150K. This was not a shipping hub. Hoyt Feb 2019 #14

Exactly what the tech jobs in the Bay Area pay Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #16

You live in the Bay Area I assume? Hoyt Feb 2019 #19

North Bay. Yes. Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #38

But you can afford it and get to live in an area that most of us only dream of. Hoyt Feb 2019 #41

Exactly, nobody is entitled to live in prime real estate. radius777 Feb 2019 #53

What People Forget Me. Feb 2019 #58

The surrounding boroughs are affordable radius777 Feb 2019 #63

Really? Me. Feb 2019 #65

Fact of life radius777 Feb 2019 #70

You Are Kidding Yourself If You Think Yuppies Me. Feb 2019 #72

So not average working class jobs. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2019 #23

I suspect current constituents in NYC aren't untrained, uneducated people. Hoyt Feb 2019 #26

Actually, you're quite wrong abou Maloney's district and contitituents. N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #32

Well, she makes it sound in the OP like she has a constituency in need of jobs. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2019 #37

The assumption seemed to be that people in her district would not be qualified enough for the jobs. lapucelle Feb 2019 #49

Couldn't the $3B in incentves create more good paying jobs than Amazon promised? eleny Feb 2019 #20

Except, it's not like there was $3 Billion in bank. NYC was forging $3 B Hoyt Feb 2019 #24

They can't offer a group of deals adding up to the same money to locals? eleny Feb 2019 #29

If you live there, have the skills, you'd have first shot a jobs. Hoyt Feb 2019 #35

NY was not writing a check to Amazon Apollyonus Feb 2019 #39

+1. Good luck. Hoyt Feb 2019 #43

ty kindly nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #44

Like I also asked - they can't offer that value of incentives to locals? eleny Feb 2019 #46

What do you want them to incentivize "locals" to do? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #83

That's in my first post in this sub thread eleny Feb 2019 #87

That's not alternate proposal through which "locals" will bring in 25,000 jobs. N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #91

All these people complaining about the 3 Billion are clueless madville Feb 2019 #52

+1,000,000 Apollyonus Feb 2019 #54

Exactly. Appreciate the data. There's a reason so many areas competed for them. Hoyt Feb 2019 #76

Exactly. Now NY gets nothing. radius777 Feb 2019 #61

I like that Kerry quote. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #69

I think we're protesting corporate welfare. Liberal In Texas Feb 2019 #28

Amazon says they would bring in 25,000 jobs by end of June 2028. At what would amount to a cost Nanjeanne Feb 2019 #30

Amazon already has a warehouse in Queens Apollyonus Feb 2019 #42

Wow, are there 25K unemployed high salary tech people in Queens? TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #47

If there wasn't enough local talent Apollyonus Feb 2019 #51

This! They would have to import people anyway. Why not go to someplace that is Squinch Feb 2019 #66

I'm sure that part of it is that they feel that they can attract the talent TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #68

+1 Me. Feb 2019 #59

We want an end to corporate welfare. Lunabell Feb 2019 #40

First of all.... quickesst Feb 2019 #45

Great post, thank you Apollyonus Feb 2019 #57

But.... quickesst Feb 2019 #77

Goddess tells them what to believe Apollyonus Feb 2019 #78

Hi-tech capital of the east coast.. ??? pangaia Feb 2019 #48

Here's my understanding of the position of the anti-Amazon folks... brooklynite Feb 2019 #60

Have you listened to any of the people who live in Seattle talking about their home before and Squinch Feb 2019 #64

Yup. And interesting article about how Amazon stopped the proposed "head tax" proposed Nanjeanne Feb 2019 #71

Yet Another Point Of View Me. Feb 2019 #74

Another point of view? I think Teachout is right and supports what was in the article Nanjeanne Feb 2019 #75

Teachout would have more credibility if she could win an election. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #80

I Do Too Me. Feb 2019 #81

We're gonna lose this propaganda fight. Adrahil Feb 2019 #67

It's horrible...it makes Republicans look like the party for jobs and Dems the party of job killers BluegrassDem Feb 2019 #86

This is an optics disaster to be gloating over killing R B Garr Feb 2019 #73

+1000 nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #79

R B Garr. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #82

No one wanting those opportunities is going to give a crap about "sending messages", AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #89

Twitter's presence in San Francisco hasn't helped the city one bit. RandySF Feb 2019 #85

NY Dem Congresswoman needs to get a clue. shanny Feb 2019 #93