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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
102. "SheShe is right"
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:54 PM
Feb 2019

The statement of fact in question appears to be:

"There are a dozen or more posts per day about Jesse Smollett's possible lies, yet always few if any about those that actually died at the hands of the police."

Using the site search function here on OP's, it is readily apparent that there are not a dozen posts about Smollett's possible lies, let alone a dozen a day.

This is a straightforward statement of quantitative fact, and in quite a few of the instances it is simply not factually correct. Leaving aside discussions of BLM generally, which certainly spawned quite a lot of discussion at DU in the lead-up to the last election cycle, if one is interested in actual facts, instead of entirely subjective statements, one could apply one's remarkable skill of counting.

But just in terms of "mentions on DU" as a proxy for "attention", the numbers don't lie. Google can do the rough counting for you. Just picking a few names from the list:

1. "jussie smollett" site:democraticunderground.com

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22jussie+smollett%22+site%3Ademocraticunderground.com


About 160 results (0.41 seconds)


2. "Philando Castile" site:democraticunderground.com

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22Philando Castile%22+site%3Ademocraticunderground.com

About 288 results (0.35 seconds)

3. "Eric Garner" site:democraticunderground.com

About 510 results (0.37 seconds)

4. "Walter Scott" site:democraticunderground.com

About 210 results (0.38 seconds)


Eric Garner alone is mentioned 3 times more than Jussie Smollett in DU conversations.

Plus, the OP is specific to conversations about Smollett's apparent involvement with his alleged attackers, so the Smollett "mention score" would have to be reduced by the the number of mentions when, for example, the story broke and before it fell apart.

Smollett, of course, has nothing to do with the murders of black men by police officers, but is a figure from the entertainment world who would attract a certain amount of attention regardless of why he became suddenly newsworthy.

If we look at discussions of "Black Lives Matter" more generally at DU, the figure swamps anything having to do with Smollett by an order of magnitude:

5. "black lives matter" site:democraticunderground.com

About 2,550 results (0.37 seconds)

So, under what objective set of facts is SheShe "right"?

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Yes this! Zoonart Feb 2019 #1
Thank you, Zoonart. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #2
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2019 #3
+1,000 EffieBlack Feb 2019 #4
I posted the names last night. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #59
Everyone of the cases you list has had massive coverage nationally and on DU. MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #5
All of those cases got "massive coverage" on DU? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #7
they did,...every one listed, we, at DU, responded to their murders Demonaut Feb 2019 #9
Some people responded - but they did NOT get "massive coverage" EffieBlack Feb 2019 #11
what sheshe says it the TRUTH but what he did was to belittle their deaths and make more occurrences Demonaut Feb 2019 #12
If Smollett lied about being the victim of a hate crime, he's responsible for more police murders EffieBlack Feb 2019 #15
and I asked you once if his lies would be ever justified..and you said "nope"..what changed? Demonaut Feb 2019 #17
I never said that to you EffieBlack Feb 2019 #22
see below Demonaut Feb 2019 #23
Oh, good Lord - don't you even read things before you post them? I'm not Madville EffieBlack Feb 2019 #26
lol, I asked you a question and someone else replied Demonaut Feb 2019 #32
Yes. Something that was obvious on its face before you claimed I said something I didn't say EffieBlack Feb 2019 #34
I made a mistake...I admitted it, will he? and will you agree he made a mistake? Demonaut Feb 2019 #36
You didn't admit a mistake Empowerer Feb 2019 #58
I made a mistake on the identity of the responder...get a grip Demonaut Feb 2019 #75
Mistaking the poster is one thing, but accusing a DUer of saying something she didn't say and then Empowerer Feb 2019 #81
whatever...havaniceday Demonaut Feb 2019 #83
I feel famous madville Feb 2019 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author EffieBlack Feb 2019 #33
Well. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #55
that is a sad fact Demonaut Feb 2019 #57
Thank you. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #60
"SheShe is right" jberryhill Feb 2019 #102
Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #115
One did. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #13
Yep EffieBlack Feb 2019 #16
Yep. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #51
Some blips from the radar......... jberryhill Feb 2019 #103
Yes they did. cwydro Feb 2019 #37
You posted an OP about it? sheshe2 Feb 2019 #74
I post OPs once in a blue moon. Sorry. cwydro Feb 2019 #80
Same national 24/7 coverage that the Disappearance of Natalee Holloway got? sheshe2 Feb 2019 #49
Stop watching Fox News. No other media outlet is covering stories like Holloway 24/7. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #52
CNN did. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #53
No, CNN actually criticized other networks for their saturation coverage of that story jberryhill Feb 2019 #117
I did not say is... sheshe2 Feb 2019 #63
"Attack and accuse." SixString Feb 2019 #77
A quantitative comparison of BLM vs. Natalee Holloway on DU: jberryhill Feb 2019 #106
I bet nearly all those Brawley threads were during the 2004 primary theboss Feb 2019 #114
Given that Google is a click away.... jberryhill Feb 2019 #116
Yep Ace Rothstein Feb 2019 #65
Hey Ace? sheshe2 Feb 2019 #70
I agree. We talked about nearly all of these incidents. Calista241 Feb 2019 #139
"There are a dozen or more posts per day about Jesse Smollett's possible lies" SixString Feb 2019 #6
Read DU. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #14
I think I've seen maybe three. cwydro Feb 2019 #39
and he undermines all those you've listed..their injusties, their murders Demonaut Feb 2019 #8
Who "undermines" those injustices? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #10
Smollett Demonaut Feb 2019 #18
What does he have to do with those other incidents and how does he undermine them? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #24
when he claims it was a racist and trump related attack and it wasn't Demonaut Feb 2019 #25
That he's a liar? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #27
give it a broader consideration Demonaut Feb 2019 #28
Exactly what "broader consideration" would you like me to give it? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #29
are you asking me to make up your mind? Demonaut Feb 2019 #30
No, dear. I'm asking you to make some sense. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #31
but you never answered my question, "would he be ever justified in lying" Demonaut Feb 2019 #35
You really should think about leaving this Smollett case out of your problems with DU posters. cwydro Feb 2019 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Feb 2019 #45
Lol. cwydro Feb 2019 #87
He? Who? sheshe2 Feb 2019 #19
see above Demonaut Feb 2019 #20
Sheshe2, I wish I had a good response for you. Stonepounder Feb 2019 #21
The same reason no one gives a crap about real issues facing GLBT people.... Behind the Aegis Feb 2019 #40
I know, BtA. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #46
+1000 JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #119
I remember dozens of threads about those cases. Perhaps you weren't paying attention. cwydro Feb 2019 #41
I think that's a common error on DU: trying to gauge interest/outrage by the number of threads. Dr. Strange Feb 2019 #43
You are exactly right! Phentex Feb 2019 #44
If you go through my posting history, it's mostly disagreements with other posters theboss Feb 2019 #113
I vehemently agree with you jberryhill Feb 2019 #118
I remember support for Zimmerman. nt sheshe2 Feb 2019 #47
There's always a cohort eager to explain/defend racist behavior Empowerer Feb 2019 #62
Spot effing on! sheshe2 Feb 2019 #64
Because it's bullshit. Glamrock Feb 2019 #42
"now here's some fuckwit that gives us a reason to ignore point one" Empowerer Feb 2019 #48
In an ideal world, that would be true. Glamrock Feb 2019 #69
That's exactly how it works in the real world. Empowerer Feb 2019 #72
Okay Glamrock Feb 2019 #73
Thank you. cwydro Feb 2019 #88
Thank you Glamrock Feb 2019 #89
We are infact talking about "a few things". Caliman73 Feb 2019 #132
Extremely well said! Glamrock Feb 2019 #133
Good question. ck4829 Feb 2019 #50
Trump sets the standard for serial lying. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #54
Speaking of names, isn't it "Jussie" not "Jesse"? (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2019 #56
Spelled both ways on the net. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #66
oh ffs. 912gdm Feb 2019 #68
????? sheshe2 Feb 2019 #71
#seriouslywhatthehellwasthat SMC22307 Feb 2019 #122
A lot of things are "spelled both ways on the net" Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #76
"I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and betsuni Feb 2019 #79
Seriously. Like 'Barack' and 'Barrack.' SMC22307 Feb 2019 #123
"Spelled both ways on the net" is no excuse Rob H. Feb 2019 #78
When you can't come up with a cogent response, try to deflect by taking away points for spelling Empowerer Feb 2019 #82
Even though both spellings have been used on the internet. George II Feb 2019 #86
And even if they haven't Empowerer Feb 2019 #92
Exactly. The days of pointing out misspellings and mistakes in grammar, etc. ended in the 1990s George II Feb 2019 #93
Indeed Empowerer Feb 2019 #96
His official Twitter and .com site spell his name "Jussie." SMC22307 Feb 2019 #121
Why not admit to a simple error? SMC22307 Feb 2019 #124
I agree, care should be taken to get names right. namahage Feb 2019 #134
Why can't you show him the respect to at least get his name right? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #61
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #67
Excuse me? Here is a report from a Southern California/LA online newspaper: George II Feb 2019 #84
Folks just seem to be running around in circles given some of the reactions. lapucelle Feb 2019 #91
And here are dozens of sources that spelled it right melman Feb 2019 #94
Nice work, but you completely missed the point George II Feb 2019 #95
No I didn't melman Feb 2019 #100
Yes you did; you must be using a different google. I got dozens of "Jesse Smollett" hits. George II Feb 2019 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Feb 2019 #137
The gang is all here Mel. pwb Feb 2019 #138
What the heck are you talking about? They refer to him as 'Jussie' Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #128
It's been edited, the headline is now completely different. Did you bother to look at the link... George II Feb 2019 #129
Nonsense. The article clearly spells it Jussie. In the article and the tag. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #130
What does the URL say? THAT was the original headline and was reflected in the original... George II Feb 2019 #131
It looks like Sanestina Hunter, the author, spelled his name wrong and corrected it. Good for her. Autumn Feb 2019 #135
Shhhhh.... George II Feb 2019 #136
I think it's the 24 hour news mentality and being constantly outraged. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #85
A gay black celebrity gets assaulted by two white Trump supporters hughee99 Feb 2019 #90
I think you nailed it. jalan48 Feb 2019 #97
Precisely. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2019 #125
Yes, it's DU's fault FrankBooth Feb 2019 #98
Because people are looking for an excuse Bettie Feb 2019 #99
Whataboutism Bonx Feb 2019 #101
yes that's what it looks like to me KayF Feb 2019 #107
In Part I Think It Has To Do With The Fact That When It Was First Reported Me. Feb 2019 #104
Tamir Rice was 12 years old jberryhill Feb 2019 #105
86 people have been shot in Chicago since Smollett allegedly faked his attack madville Feb 2019 #108
And that's also part of it. Igel Feb 2019 #110
+1 DashOneBravo Feb 2019 #120
That's horrific. What are DUer's thoughts on making it stop? SMC22307 Feb 2019 #126
He's an entertainer, he's been called a "star". He went on shows to publicize the attack. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2019 #112
Good question!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #127
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