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39. Perhaps when you develop some intellectual curiosity

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Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:51 PM

Jan 2012

We can have a fruitful discussion. No, I am not giving you any list AGAIN.

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"The economy is improving, therefore OWS will go away." [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 OP

This country has so many problems (brought to us courtesy of the Repukes), that these won't Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #1

Yeah, but I have heard that here in the recent past nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #5

I know. There are some in here who are scared of civil disobedience. It's discouraged in the U.S. Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #31

Oh - is it going to be a "Long Hot Summer" FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #2

Hey, on the bright side nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #4

"Sorry, the revolution is postponed because it is too cold!" hack89 Jan 2012 #8

OWS is not in hiatus Demeter Jan 2012 #9

There doesn't seem to be much occupying going on. hack89 Jan 2012 #10

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean pintobean Jan 2012 #11

That's NOT the Occupation Demeter Jan 2012 #12

We'll see hack89 Jan 2012 #16

Well I'll give you the same credit I give my local cops nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #51

It's more like a failure of the network... randome Jan 2012 #53

Yet the cops seem to be winning. hack89 Jan 2012 #55

LOL. bvar22 Jan 2012 #77

A movement that doesn't actually accomplish something is doomed. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #79

Hasn't accomplished anything? bvar22 Jan 2012 #82

Lol pintobean Jan 2012 #83

That's an odd interpretation of bvar's post. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #86

Looks like I was correct. pintobean Jan 2012 #99

What am I supposed to be looking at? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #106

Deny it all you want, bvar22 Jan 2012 #96

So the WH is maneuvering to co-opt the OWS message? hack89 Jan 2012 #100

WHAT???? For a non influential, does not matter movement, that is nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #110

The angst and fear that drives OWS is real. hack89 Jan 2012 #111

HALLLELUJAH... you got it, by jove you GOT IT!!!!!! nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #112

You don't understand though - nothing will actually change, it's the same old system hack89 Jan 2012 #117

If it does not, then the words of Kennedy come to mind nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #118

You first need to elect progressives if you want a progressive agenda implemented hack89 Jan 2012 #121

you'll see zappaman Jan 2012 #122

Alas it is not one or the other nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #123

They are doing jack shit in Rhode Island - why is that? nt hack89 Jan 2012 #124

And Rhode Island is the United States... assuming you are correct nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #125

A liberal Democrat mayor has been blowing them off for months. hack89 Jan 2012 #128

You are once again confusing action with accomplishments. hack89 Jan 2012 #129

here it is 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #169

Parroting the OWS message is not saying they are irrelevant Zalatix Jan 2012 #141

If the intent is simply to disfuse anger directed at Democrats hack89 Jan 2012 #144

OWS hasn't achieved anything? Are you serious??? Zalatix Jan 2012 #140

But nothing has changed hack89 Jan 2012 #143

Wait, if Democrats co-opt the movement Zalatix Jan 2012 #147

Do you care about messages or actions? hack89 Jan 2012 #161

I am OWS and I haven't been to one protest... CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #199

But will those same people support OWS in the absence of any articulated plan of action? hack89 Jan 2012 #200

wooosh. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #249

I understood the post - I just question any movement that depends on some unseen silent majority hack89 Jan 2012 #250

After you got the recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #202

I guess it beats answering hard questions. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #251

You might want to read the book,"The Spider and the Starfish"... truth2power Jan 2012 #254

Call me when OWS puts a million people on the Mall in DC. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #257

The PTB don't give a rat's-ass if a million people are on the mall; OWS or otherwise... truth2power Jan 2012 #259

No I understand very well hack89 Jan 2012 #260

5000 protester for the Rose Parade in LA. Yesterday was a day of action in NYC against the SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #68

You are correct nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #71

Tiny groups of people sparsely scattered over a large country. hack89 Jan 2012 #80

Why? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #87

Wow, the Plutocrats LOVE you today. Zalatix Jan 2012 #142

Everyone loves me - it's my cuddly nature. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #145

So if we don't bend a knee to OWS hack89 Jan 2012 #163

perhaps not 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #172

"fear"? give me a break. hack89 Jan 2012 #177

you bash them constantly 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #183

No - I criticize them because I think they are pissing away the opportunity of a lifetime. hack89 Jan 2012 #184

One of the places that it is surely non-existent... MattSh Jan 2012 #165

You need to get your head out the internet and take a look around hack89 Jan 2012 #175

�Never doubt that a small, group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Demeter Jan 2012 #166

Sure - a focused, organized group hack89 Jan 2012 #171

It sounds like the only thing you understand is a corporate/business model... truth2power Jan 2012 #256

Voting is the only legitimate way to change our system hack89 Jan 2012 #258

I think it was Phil Berrigan who said, "If voting made any difference truth2power Jan 2012 #261

So you think OWS should ignore the election process? hack89 Jan 2012 #262

Individually, they should do whatever they see fit. But you're still thinking of OWS as truth2power Jan 2012 #277

How about focusing on one thing instead of trying to do everything at once? randome Jan 2012 #278

Here pintobean Jan 2012 #279

LOL. I had missed that one. randome Jan 2012 #280

They can explicilty state that they will support the reelection of President Obama. hack89 Jan 2012 #282

that would be a good start. n/t zappaman Jan 2012 #283

One more time. You still don't get it.... truth2power Jan 2012 #284

So OWS has adopted an ankle biting strategy at the fringes of the system hack89 Jan 2012 #286

That's your latest attack nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #19

When all a movement has to offer is promises of some nebulous "surprises" when the weather get nicer hack89 Jan 2012 #24

Perhaps when you develop some intellectual curiosity nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #39

You forgot to add... randome Jan 2012 #41

And... your point is... exactly nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #57

Have you ever considered how condescending your reply sounds? hack89 Jan 2012 #52

Well given I spent hours trying to have nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #56

If you want an echo chamber, why are you at DU? nt hack89 Jan 2012 #59

Just put him or her on ignore. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #89

The only problem, and this is belongs in meta nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #102

Well that's lame! girl gone mad Jan 2012 #104

Yeah I think I will have to raise it over there nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #105

not too ignorant to grasp 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #173

My local occupy convinced the city council... prairierose Jan 2012 #22

So it's not really OWS any more, is it? randome Jan 2012 #26

No, it is OWS. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #40

I see what you did there. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #90

My local occupy has withered into irrelevancy. hack89 Jan 2012 #29

Just because you don't see them nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #42

I am intellectually curious as to how an invisible, fair weather movement hack89 Jan 2012 #47

If they are so irrelevant why do you need to keep trying to convinve us? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #91

If they are relevant I would be hearing about them outside of DU . nt hack89 Jan 2012 #92

Uh-huh. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #95

Not. Fox News, etc, is owned by the 1% and they don't Zorra Jan 2012 #149

How do you build a national movement using obscure news sources? hack89 Jan 2012 #162

dude ,just start your own thing 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #186

Don't need to - the Rhode Island Democratic party is there already hack89 Jan 2012 #188

How do we build a national movement using MSM news sources owned by our opposition? Zorra Jan 2012 #204

And look how few people are involved in the conversation hack89 Jan 2012 #208

A few weeks ago Zorra Jan 2012 #215

DU is such a narrow slice of America hack89 Jan 2012 #227

Frankly and directly speaking, I can't waste any more time rebutting meaningless and transparent Zorra Jan 2012 #263

Same to you - I am off to get Democrats elected to office. hack89 Jan 2012 #264

If dissenting viewpoints pintobean Jan 2012 #265

This is a recording. n/t zappaman Jan 2012 #266

I've asked admin pintobean Jan 2012 #268

Throw it on a loop. zappaman Jan 2012 #269

Oh, dear me. randome Jan 2012 #267

Obviously you do not understand what a recording is zappaman Jan 2012 #270

But, but, but.... randome Jan 2012 #271

Do not be pintobean Jan 2012 #272

Because... greytdemocrat Jan 2012 #119

Faux is that you? n/t 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #174

No. Ostrich, is that you? nt hack89 Jan 2012 #178

It's not about politics, as such. n/t truth2power Jan 2012 #285

It does seem to be about anything more than venting anger and frustration hack89 Jan 2012 #287

I think I've seen you post this too cold shit before 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #168

No - I want OWS to be a factor in next year's election hack89 Jan 2012 #170

we're sorry that we haven't been able 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #176

I am right in the middle of preparing for an election campaign hack89 Jan 2012 #180

then, might I suggest you join for tea? 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #187

So OWS will support non-Democrats? Or just certain Democrats? hack89 Jan 2012 #190

well. I'll tell you need it now 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #195

Can't you simply say that you have no clue what OWS is planning to do? hack89 Jan 2012 #196

This is a recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #213

Nadine - there is no question that you have no clue. hack89 Jan 2012 #225

Recording of personal attack nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #230

There's a reason Holsinger called his piece Occulus Jan 2012 #281

That's an odd quote zappaman Jan 2012 #3

. pintobean Jan 2012 #6

Didn't Orly Taitz say something like that? randome Jan 2012 #13

I too wondered who was being quoted tkmorris Jan 2012 #14

Google gives 2 results pintobean Jan 2012 #17

So, nobody said it. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #273

Twice pintobean Jan 2012 #274

lol x 2 AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #275

lol x 4 zappaman Jan 2012 #276

Jobless recoveries or declining wage jobs mmonk Jan 2012 #7

those who are unable to learn from history are doomed to repeat it Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #15

And those who stare into history's navel too long... randome Jan 2012 #18

That is why police, predictably, is doing what is doing nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #21

I have a friend? randome Jan 2012 #23

no, you are right 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #189

I'm so sad. randome Jan 2012 #191

to help it grow Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #28

Me? Threatened? randome Jan 2012 #30

Then why lash out at me? Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #32

Not sure where you see 'anger' in any of my posts. randome Jan 2012 #35

I got a solution for you nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #43

But this is entertaining. randome Jan 2012 #46

You're not the light, nadin pintobean Jan 2012 #50

That moth is being dragged in by the gravity well of an enormous ego. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #234

Google-de-goo pintobean Jan 2012 #240

+1000! n/t zappaman Jan 2012 #243

Seems to really be getting under your skin. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #107

Then don't look. Just ignore the Occupy threads if they threaten you somehow. Zorra Jan 2012 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #81

Why do you have to spend so much time trying to convince people it isn't relevant? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #97

Yep. I'm absolutely, totally nut-zo! randome Jan 2012 #131

Alas there is an agenda nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #134

But if you put me on Ignore, you'll never know what I'm saying about you behind your back. randome Jan 2012 #164

Bwaahaahaaa! Thanks so much for your concern! Zorra Jan 2012 #151

lol, so it's to save us. 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #192

No funnier than you thinking you are saving the 99%. randome Jan 2012 #193

It is speaking 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #179

Middle-aged borrowers, including the unemployed, are now taking on more student debt as well. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #20

It is the next crisis indeed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #37

By that they sound like Luddites The2ndWheel Jan 2012 #25

No they are protesting against a non future nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #38

that was E.P. Thompson's groundbreaking work--the weavers' "obsolescence" was created by MisterP Jan 2012 #75

Sadly, they don't vote and don't have any money to spend joeglow3 Jan 2012 #27

Well given 70% of occupiers are fully employed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #45

I am going with decades of evidence joeglow3 Jan 2012 #133

Improving for whom? aquart Jan 2012 #33

Why do you think I used quotation marks? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #44

What is the "ECONOMY"? Hawkowl Jan 2012 #34

Who is saying what you put in quotes? MineralMan Jan 2012 #36

I hope that the economy really is improving. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #48

I was standing in a line behind a middle-age woman who was desperate (and embarassed) AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #54

We have a friend -- middle-aged also -- who JDPriestly Jan 2012 #115

The economy is going to have to improve a lot more before I stop wanting it to get better. I suspect jwirr Jan 2012 #49

OWS is dead in New York City. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #58

OWS is dead for now but it will come back in another form. Initech Jan 2012 #62

That is news to me nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #66

And news to the 200 OWSers who protested NDAA at Grand Central yesterday pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #70

200, you say. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #78

Moving the goalposts pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #114

Where have you been ? FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #67

No, that's not quite true or accurate. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #76

have you looked in the buildings? 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #181

CEO pay to worker pay: 475:1. Initech Jan 2012 #60

And this is the MAIN reason that the Occupy movement will NOT socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #132

Why do you put quotes around something nobody has ever said? frazzled Jan 2012 #61

Because it has been said here in several threads nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #64

Making up quotes to argue against is weak. zappaman Jan 2012 #72

It was clearly a paraphrase. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #93

a quote is a paraphrase? zappaman Jan 2012 #98

Really? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #101

no I think making up quotes is wrong. zappaman Jan 2012 #103

I think one would have to be fairly dim.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #108

yes, it certainly would be dim to think an assertion with quotes marks on either end was a quote! zappaman Jan 2012 #109

+1 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #182

So you think that's funny? It looks more like harassment to me. Get a grip. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #136

Awwwwww zappaman Jan 2012 #138

You didn't point out shit but hubris of your own. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #146

OMC is that you? U4ikLefty Jan 2012 #154

... SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #253

Show me the money frazzled Jan 2012 #120

And the new college semester is about to start. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #63

That should be interesting nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #65

Yes! :) nt Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #74

It will not go away. The economy is improving so slowly that lots of people don't even notice it. totodeinhere Jan 2012 #69

Why I used quotation marks nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #73

This was predicted by Ross Perot when he told the truth about the effects of NAFTA in 1992. bvar22 Jan 2012 #84

1994 - GATT ciaoant1 Jan 2012 #88

I AGREE LadyInAZ Jan 2012 #159

Protests are here to stay - butwill they successful? ciaoant1 Jan 2012 #85

That depends on how big they get and how much socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #148

Non sequitur. bemildred Jan 2012 #94

The OWs are going nowhere malaise Jan 2012 #113

If that is the agenda of operatives, then it will fail. Rex Jan 2012 #116

OWS is not really about the economy. It's about equality. Therefore librechik Jan 2012 #126

Yup, the economy is just one part of it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #127

Right on! obliviously Jan 2012 #130

Take a look at tuition hikes, food hikes, everything but wages hikes. Nope not going afuckingway. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #135

Yup, but indeed some folks still do believe that it will go away nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #137

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #139

Hey Monty22001 Jan 2012 #152

Actually dealing with the economic situation nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #153

I keep hearing/reading about Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #155

Well if you pay attention you will find out nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #156

You haven't answered the question Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #157

My lord, I did nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #158

No, you didn't Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #160

And I take it sitting on the couch, which is what some folks secretly want, works nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #203

Then stop telling us how important OWS is. randome Jan 2012 #205

This is a recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #207

Well, I guess I have my answer Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #218

At least you didn't get on their 'list' like hack89 and I did. randome Jan 2012 #219

This is a recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #220

I disagree zappaman Jan 2012 #221

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Ah how nice, personal attack nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #238

Doesn't seem like a personal attack zappaman Jan 2012 #244

This will be my last post on this thread. (Maybe). randome Jan 2012 #167

+ 1 nt hack89 Jan 2012 #185

people do keep posting OWS accomplishments 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #194

You, like Nadine, keep mistaking action for accomplishments hack89 Jan 2012 #197

This is a recording. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #209

I really was not expecting you to venture into new territory hack89 Jan 2012 #222

This is a recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #224

So the intellectual depth of OWS is revealed. Thanks! nt hack89 Jan 2012 #226

This is a recording of talking point number one nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #228

We now have a black President. How long did it take for MLK/Civil rights movement to accomplish Zorra Jan 2012 #212

With all due respect... randome Jan 2012 #214

This is a recording. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #216

You are correct my friend nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #217

And we may have a white president next year hack89 Jan 2012 #223

This is a recording of talking point number two nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #229

LaLaLaLaLaL - now that is an intellectual retort! Bravo!. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #232

Actually I think it is point number four - but I might have lost track. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #233

That's all YOU GOT LEFT... nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #237

Since you want to talk in short hand, why can't I? hack89 Jan 2012 #239

Actually you are not worth it... nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #241

It was worth another post from you - something I will treasure. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #242

so it's all up to OWS now? 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #245

Either they are a game changing national movement or they are not hack89 Jan 2012 #246

they will support those that support the people 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #247

Call me when OWS puts a million people on the Mall in DC hack89 Jan 2012 #248

I don't get it. Not at all. Seems some here want it both ways. Why anyone other than the SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #255

Damn! You found us out! I congratulate you, Mr. 2pooped2pop! randome Jan 2012 #198

This is a recording nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #206

Guys. Help me out, here. randome Jan 2012 #210

Alas it's about you nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #211

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Milk, it does a body good nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #235

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