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105. And a roboticized workforce is the dream of predatory capitalists everywhere.

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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:23 PM

Feb 2019

And when we are all gig economy workers, with low pay and no benefits, who will order the things from Amazon?

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Why the focus on how wonderful Amazon is? [View all] guillaumeb Feb 2019 OP

i know some ppl have issues with Amazon but there are lots of issues with everything.. samnsara Feb 2019 #1

My point here is to raise issues that some may not be familiar with. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #2

Why not worry about both? SMC22307 Feb 2019 #19

The Walmart of onlnine shopping...nt 2naSalit Feb 2019 #3

Exactly Kitchari Feb 2019 #7

True, with the same poorly paid workers, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #10

Is $15 an hour starting pay really "poorly paid" for retail? EX500rider Feb 2019 #59

Is a living wage really too much to demand? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #62

Expecting starting level pay at low level jobs to be high paying may be too much, yes. EX500rider Feb 2019 #64

You might. And many do. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #69

So $31,000 is not a living wage? Just how much should they start people at to place things in boxes EX500rider Feb 2019 #95

Devaluing labor is not a good position. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #96

I consider Amazon's profit on $232 billion in sales @ 4.7% to be pretty weak. EX500rider Feb 2019 #97

He accepts a minimal salary guillaumeb Feb 2019 #98

In five to ten years if not before many of the workers at Amazon ... spin Feb 2019 #103

And a roboticized workforce is the dream of predatory capitalists everywhere. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #105

Probably the guys who program or repair robots. ... spin Feb 2019 #107

Exactly. Why are so many Democrats "protective" of Bezos... SMC22307 Feb 2019 #20

My experience is they have a better selection of items than WalMart Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #53

Yep. +1 BeckyDem Feb 2019 #68

Good question melman Feb 2019 #4

I agree. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #11

I've never bought anything on amazon. not bc its a political protest or anything. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #5

You are welcome. eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #12

DU needs to appoint a censor to stop anyone from posting about amazon, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 #6

I am not preventing anyone from posting, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #13

one more thing. these post about amazon et al show how deeply ingrained neo-liberal capitalism Kurt V. Feb 2019 #8

True, the supposed advantages of predatory capitalism guillaumeb Feb 2019 #14

New article on Amazon & American Capitalism at CD by appalachiablue Feb 2019 #89

I agree with you, guillaumeb Kitchari Feb 2019 #9

Welcome to DU, and the conversation. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #15

Thanks for the welcome! n/t Kitchari Feb 2019 #30

I recommend this related post about Amazon, and Bezos' tactics. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #16

and it gets away with it because they are functionally a monopoly Pobeka Feb 2019 #17

True. Monopoly capitalism is apparently acceptable to many voters. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #18

Big banks should have been broken up... SMC22307 Feb 2019 #23

And Bernie Sanders, and others, have talked about this. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #32

Yep, one of the many reasons I'm still a Sanders supporter. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2019 #46

+1 CentralMass Feb 2019 #56

So... what is it you want? Adrahil Feb 2019 #21

An excellent question. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #22

And? Adrahil Feb 2019 #24

bingo Mosby Feb 2019 #28

What is the point of having a union if you can make more $ at a non union store ? MichMan Feb 2019 #87

because the union is protecting the pensions Mosby Feb 2019 #91

Showing the need for unions. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #33

Have you seen the Sears stories lately? AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #47

In the 1960s and 1970s. our family knew Sears workers. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #49

They failed to adapt...Amazon started out selling books in '94 AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #52

The laws were re-written to attack unions. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #61

May be...but Union membes supported the HQ in NYC AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #99

My guess is that the support was mainly from the building trades. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #100

That would be you guess...would be wrong, but you are entitled to it AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #101

Another view: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #102

I'm curios as to why you left this out AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #104

I wrote more in another post: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #106

How do people not know this? Amazon seems to be the flavor of the month. n/t seaglass Feb 2019 #38

Yes, it was an excellent question... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #26

Dinner was calling me. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #36

Amazon is not the only company that extorts money from local and state governments. Blue_true Feb 2019 #27

Indeed. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #34

That is true, unfortunately. But history says that can't last long, excesses always get corrected. Blue_true Feb 2019 #37

And while we are waiting, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #42

Actually, historically a significant revolution in though and governance happens Blue_true Feb 2019 #45

You buy stuff where you want and I will buy where I want. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #25

Amazon offers hard to find stuff, that is why I use it. Blue_true Feb 2019 #29

I've used Amazon. I've also made money from Amazon and can make as much as I want to make. DontBooVote Feb 2019 #82

Everyone can buy wherever they want, of course Kitchari Feb 2019 #31

Yes indeed. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #35

The main thing about big box stores and Amazon is they take money out of the local economy scarytomcat Feb 2019 #39

Yes, they do. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #40

+1 Whenever possible we purchase from local stores. There are appalachiablue Feb 2019 #90

I will never buy anything from Amazon as I will not shop at Wal-Mart. Even as a penny-wise cornball 24 Feb 2019 #41

We do not buy from them either. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #43

The entire set up is like a twisted variation of "the company store". cornball 24 Feb 2019 #48

Yes, it is. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #50

Consumer culture sucks in every way. I boycott everything... hunter Feb 2019 #44

This, from your funny and insightful response: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #51

People are being crushed by our poorly regulated capitalist society. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #54

Amazon, and WalMart, and dollar stores, exist because wages have stagnated guillaumeb Feb 2019 #63

It all goes back to legislators. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #66

I agreed with your earlier point. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #70

I'm saving since quitting Amazon because I stopped impulse buying. nt eleny Feb 2019 #55

Amazon warehouse workers start at almost $18 an hour Polybius Feb 2019 #57

Average pay at a fulfillment center is $26.7k MrGrieves Feb 2019 #58

See #71 guillaumeb Feb 2019 #72

Where? guillaumeb Feb 2019 #71

Staten Island, NY location Polybius Feb 2019 #94

Amazon is putting brick and mortar stores out of business. milestogo Feb 2019 #60

And burn calories. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #73

Yes. I bought a bicycle last week from a local bike shop. milestogo Feb 2019 #92

A great reason to buy local. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #93

It's unfortunate but I think some folks just aren't "woke" when it comes to the predatory capitalism jalan48 Feb 2019 #65

Some might be forced to buy from predatory capitalists through economic necessity. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #74

Yes, I agree. I still think there's a big disconnect in this country about how the goods are made jalan48 Feb 2019 #76

We do not see the Chinese workers producing goods in Chinese sweatshops. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #77

Yep. Just watching the obscenity of the day after Thanksgiving shopping shows how shallow we jalan48 Feb 2019 #79

There is that factor, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #81

Oh, I know how that goes. jalan48 Feb 2019 #83

It is not solely cost. MicaelS Feb 2019 #67

I agree that economic necessity forces some to shop there. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #75

the guy started out selling books online from his garage..pretty effing amazing.. samnsara Feb 2019 #78

It is. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #80

Sorry, I just can't bring myself to hate Amazon. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #84

Do not hate!!! Regulate!! guillaumeb Feb 2019 #85

I'm all for sensible regulation of business, but I am not anti-business. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #86

Nor am I. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #88