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138. no, I believe it was BOA that gave the NYPD a "donation"

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:46 AM

Aug 2012

in the millions. So yes, the banks are buying in a round about way, the police state we are seeing.

There have also been many reports here on du of the banks coordinating against Occupy with the police.

So yes, they are afraid and are using their usual way (cash) to get what they want. And it is working for them.

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Just asking ... this summer was supposed to be a big summer for OWS. Is that totally gone now? n/t [View all] RKP5637 Aug 2012 OP

OWS lost a focused message and thus lost steam CabCurious Aug 2012 #1

^^ THIS ^^ longship Aug 2012 #40

Quoting you: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #60

He is correct, except for the suggestion OWS failed. It DID change the national dialog. CabCurious Aug 2012 #181

but you have done so much right? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #228

"It DID change the national dialog." is what i said... CabCurious Aug 2012 #247

I love what I just read, I'm lost for words, I have been involved with occupy since the beginning juxtaposed Aug 2012 #64

It would have been nice if Occupy Wall Street had actually focussed on Wall Street. longship Aug 2012 #85

"Don't get me wrong, I support the cause." Yes, that is abundantly clear. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #87

How many changes has OWS accomplished? longship Aug 2012 #95

"How many changes has OWS accomplished? None! Zero! Nada!" Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #104

Apparently you like to parrot me rather than make a rational argument. longship Aug 2012 #118

"I won't say what I really think about Occupy. It's sufficient that their harm is at an end." -You. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #119

Well when nothing they did made a difference... longship Aug 2012 #137

I agree. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #123

Taking over the democratic party will do nothing to end Citizens United. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #126

You are wrong there. Letting a Democratic President pick another 1-3 Supreme Court justices might. FSogol Aug 2012 #150

Well, I wouldn't go that far, but thank you anyway. longship Aug 2012 #131

Dig deeper tama Aug 2012 #140

Citizen's United was decided 5-4 by the Court... brooklynite Aug 2012 #164

Sure, there are differences nt tama Aug 2012 #194

why don't you do something instead of bitch about those who are? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #230

All our grievances are connected. That has always been the point from day one. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #101

The bankers on Wall Street do not make policy. longship Aug 2012 #122

You're serious? Seriously? Seriously seriously? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #129

I know the story, my friend. longship Aug 2012 #136

ODC tama Aug 2012 #143

Actually that be the Declaration... the constitution is clear on what to do nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #171

Yeah, right. But their money makes policy and we suffer for it. Get Wall Street, the NRA, and nanabugg Aug 2012 #141

"the bankers on Wall Street do not make policy" BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #163

Son you really must have a very good imagination nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #175

+1000 n/t 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #227

"youth hostiles" HCE SuiGeneris Aug 2012 #65

I hope your credibility is never dependent on a typo and iPhone correction. longship Aug 2012 #90

No, they don't regulate wall street. Wall street and banks took $16 trillion from the government. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #130

Well, my point stands. longship Aug 2012 #133

When a Congressperson is in danger of losing their seat, they suddenly find a reason to listen to MADem Aug 2012 #261

I couldn't have said that better. longship Aug 2012 #263

People hate Congress, as a rule, but for some odd reason most of them don't include "their" rep! MADem Aug 2012 #264

Why expect anything else tama Aug 2012 #146

Well, I don't see any policy changes from OWS. longship Aug 2012 #162

It's gradual and wavy tama Aug 2012 #191

Policy changes is a lofty expectation. They DID change the national dialog CabCurious Aug 2012 #192

Agreed. They did that in spades. longship Aug 2012 #205

well too bad they didn't get help from the likes of you. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #68

Damn hippie freaks. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #127

That's exactly how... greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #144

Right on all accounts, although I DON'T think they failed... CabCurious Aug 2012 #180

Agreed! longship Aug 2012 #196

I remain convinced camping is the right thing to do to keep it from being an elitist middle-class patrice Aug 2012 #184

Fair cynicism, however... that is mostly what it was anyways CabCurious Aug 2012 #188

Not new problems tama Aug 2012 #197

Agreed... CabCurious Aug 2012 #248

The way I see it tama Aug 2012 #252

I generally agree... but there IS such a thing as losing the message CabCurious Aug 2012 #262

Translation: It wasn't "interesting" enough for TV watching boobs. Bonobo Aug 2012 #72

No, quite the opposite CabCurious Aug 2012 #179

This didn't help FrodosPet Aug 2012 #266

"They didn't even have time to develop a middle class for this new society to crush." CabCurious Aug 2012 #268

We will see next week in Tampa. Dkc05 Aug 2012 #2

I don't think they'll be there. I think their show of force will be reserved for the Democrats in patrice Aug 2012 #9

Hmmm....so they're getting RNC funding, then? nt MADem Aug 2012 #107

It would be stupid not to recognize that possibility, especially with Libertarians & Tea Party patrice Aug 2012 #182

Nothing would surprise me, seriously. MADem Aug 2012 #209

Wonder how many more years/decades/centuries it will take for the left to realize stevenleser Aug 2012 #166

1+++++++++ just look at our whole history. patrice Aug 2012 #183

What is OWS? ann--- Aug 2012 #3

Occupy Wall Street movement. amerikat Aug 2012 #5

Oops, I guess they were serious, I thought it was sarcasm at first. I had someone once ask RKP5637 Aug 2012 #13

Not all of us can easily connect acronyms tama Aug 2012 #198

There should have been a leader riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #4

Yep, I think it's really hard to focus a movement across a country this size without an RKP5637 Aug 2012 #8

I think it is possible that most of them had no real idea how to do "horizontal empowerment". They patrice Aug 2012 #16

Yep, the paradigm "of division and factionalism and the habits of thought and emotion acquired RKP5637 Aug 2012 #17

Chicago Occupy gets it Beautifully! Ours suffered also from the fact that we were trying to do all patrice Aug 2012 #22

Respect to Occupy Chicago! n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #45

There's also a really awesome occupy in Tulsa, OK. I was with them when they ran a GA in front of patrice Aug 2012 #48

Brilliant :) Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #51

Yep. And young too! We talked GA stuff on the march to and from Koch HQ. patrice Aug 2012 #53

Taking it directly to the Kochs. I love it. Voting just doesn't get this sort of thing done! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #80

One of the cool things about that Tulsa group is that it included 3-4 engineers and I don't mean patrice Aug 2012 #173

without Occupy, we would not be seeing the changes we are 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #50

Agree! patrice Aug 2012 #55

Same old pattern Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #71

yes you are right. It was you that made things change 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #73

I didn't change a god-damned thing Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #77

snort 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #79

Somehow I suspected Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #83

snort 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #86

Again the pattern is followed with precision Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #89

I'd like to quote from my Facebook friend Michael Caigoy: coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #92

Well ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #97

He's saying that Occupy opened his eyes, something that *obviously* has coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #99

I, like millions of people the world over, Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #103

In August of 2011, the dominant theme in political conversation in this country was coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #117

I am very happy Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #220

Yours is a great response and I found myself agreeing with much of it. When I read coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #222

Yes, Occupy went national - and very quickly. Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #250

Another truly awesome post and one I hope all of DU gets a chance to read. I remember coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #253

"It is this spirit of earnest honesty, of tireless striving ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #255

How? tama Aug 2012 #254

And you have taken Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #256

Politics tama Aug 2012 #257

big fucking coincidence isn't it? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #236

The sad thing is Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #245

yes and the fact that EVERYONE is talking about 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #246

EVERYONE is talking about it? Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #249

Similar to Wikileaks treestar Aug 2012 #218

I've seen no evidence that occupy produced any fear at all in the 1 percent RZM Aug 2012 #81

you must have missed the cops beating the fuck out of peaceful 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #82

Your evidence is police conduct? RZM Aug 2012 #84

The cops weren't taking money from "the banks." They were taking it from the taxpayers. MADem Aug 2012 #109

no, I believe it was BOA that gave the NYPD a "donation" 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #138

Were they paying for specific security detail? That's a different thing. However, the overtime MADem Aug 2012 #160

No, some sort of donation, I think. No not to widows fund. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #172

Donations are not overtime salaries, though. The taxpayers pay for the police at demos. nt MADem Aug 2012 #174

Many of us tama Aug 2012 #199

My impression of the Chicago Occupy is that those are people who actually LIVE horizontally. patrice Aug 2012 #31

Interesting!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #34

Careful now zappaman Aug 2012 #46

Look I am as liberal progressive as they come riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #148

I noticed a few people disappeared back then. Wondered where you all got off to. jtuck004 Aug 2012 #265

No regrets...at all riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #267

I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm glad you were in a place where profiteering jtuck004 Aug 2012 #269

A leader would have been immediately jailed. Plus, you miss the most important point of the movement Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #41

Thank you, That's the nail on the head juxtaposed Aug 2012 #70

What power? In the hands of Which people? Speck Tater Aug 2012 #106

All power to all people! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #114

Which part of the power do you get and which part do I get? Speck Tater Aug 2012 #115

You know nothing about the General Assembly or horizontal democracy Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #125

GAs works on a small, local scale. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #165

Scale point is fair point tama Aug 2012 #204

If the leader of a mass movement is ever jailed the movement collapses 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #152

There was no violence from occupy only from the police , stop watching fox news juxtaposed Aug 2012 #67

I don't think it's realistic... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #134

Ah yes, a leader that could be assassinated... Zalatix Aug 2012 #128

They are still camped out in Tallahassee Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #6

No, you're not serious ... n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #11

It's just the Rainbow People left now. Nt DevonRex Aug 2012 #155

Good People them tama Aug 2012 #206

Yes, but new info this AM Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #219

Wow, they've been there a long time? n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #221

Assange is innocent!! randome Aug 2012 #7

LOL RKP5637 Aug 2012 #10

you just go around looking for shit to stir? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #76

OWS is alive and well and getting no press at all. amerikat Aug 2012 #12

will there be activity in Tampa Dkc05 Aug 2012 #14

Seems they are there. amerikat Aug 2012 #26

Someone named Isaac is supposedly gonna dump a load of shit on 'em. nt MADem Aug 2012 #178

Thanks for the link!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #15

Here's another link to an OWS daily newspaper ---> Petrushka Aug 2012 #52

Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #161

No AstroTurf money behind them. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #18

Excellent point!!! And no corporate media pushing them 7x24 in a favorable light. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #19

Yep. A handful of middle aged to elderly racists get together and out come the cameras. onehandle Aug 2012 #21

It's really a sad commentary about what's going on in the US. The shaping of the minds of RKP5637 Aug 2012 #30

That "elderly" means that they have deep grassroots. Here's the research on that: patrice Aug 2012 #56

To me, the teabaggers are the KKK without sheets, at least that's how it feels to me. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #168

There are experts on that subject who would likely agree with you. There's either a direct patrice Aug 2012 #169

Research link here on that topic. Would also be useful for looking at HAVA 2002. patrice Aug 2012 #185

Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #186

It'd also be fun to look for co-relations between that data & Farm Subsidies. Have you seen the EWG patrice Aug 2012 #200

Watch the conventions. WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #20

Yep, could be. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #23

I will. And if they're focused far more on the dems than the repubs, I'll notice that too. cali Aug 2012 #24

If you do FaceBook, friend them there and see what you think. nt patrice Aug 2012 #35

Bingo nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #28

In Minneapolis, they have decided to focus on helping homeowners Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #25

Yep, I was just thinking a couple of minutes ago, they get the ultimate propaganda, ignored. A RKP5637 Aug 2012 #32

OccupyMN kick ASS and have my eternal love! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #42

+1 limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #88

The media is also ignoring Habitat for Humanity. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #111

That's an interesting opinion. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #124

The foreclosure resistance program is something NEW Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #149

yep limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #170

What else is new? tama Aug 2012 #207

Phase two nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #27

That, I think, on a large scale could be very powerful, "Plenty of city council meetings though, and RKP5637 Aug 2012 #33

They should be out in state capitols occupying voting rights kimbutgar Aug 2012 #29

yes 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #225

It's been hot and nobody has done the water arrangements snooper2 Aug 2012 #36

Occupying the water supply will come soon as climate change continues Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #43

Still here and working all over the nation, but the blackout is pretty effective. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #37

Anarchists have trouble sticking with group activities frazzled Aug 2012 #38

Wrong tama Aug 2012 #210

If you want OWS news, check OWS media channels. You'll find none in the MSM. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #39

I used to follow OWS religiously. I was even in denial during their decline... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #44

If Occupy is dead, who are Tampa police expecting at the RNC? Tea partiers? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #49

Political conventions attract protestors of all kinds jberryhill Aug 2012 #57

Not at all? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #58

"shout down the monsters at each and every turn" jberryhill Aug 2012 #61

Let's make that opinion very clear. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #66

Normal attention span problems tama Aug 2012 #211

Ah.... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #215

I take this chance tama Aug 2012 #216

I've been with occupy since oct6-11 in tampa we are here and running support for the RnC protests juxtaposed Aug 2012 #74

Thank you! Kick some ass and please post livestream links here on DU! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #78

Occupy just helped expose the use of militarized SWAT teams in Anaheim Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #47

That "grenade launcher" is a tear gas gun jberryhill Aug 2012 #59

Yes, a military-grade weapon turned against peaceful protesters. Don't overlook that Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #62

No, a plain old tear gas gun jberryhill Aug 2012 #63

It is a military grenade launcher which can also be used for tear gas canisters, missing entirely Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #75

I agree, police should only use civilian tear gas launchers! Robb Aug 2012 #208

People arguing for the police state...when they show up with military weapons at your peaceful party Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #214

california uber alles frylock Aug 2012 #69

To me, this is the reason it didn't catch fire Blecht Aug 2012 #203

S17 is just a month away juxtaposed Aug 2012 #54

Never once did I pitch a tent or carry a sign mick063 Aug 2012 #91

Another thing the press didn't cover was the number of ordinary people Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #94

Thanks for this, quite interesting!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #135

Excellent post deutsey Aug 2012 #145

These folks in MN had a huge summer fighting unfair home foreclosures limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #93

I never saw them as a liberal entity let alone sustainable. vaberella Aug 2012 #96

They did their best against becoming tama Aug 2012 #213

Well, I did have high hopes for OWS initially. When it started, I genuinely thought Proles Aug 2012 #98

Okay... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #100

Perfect deutsey Aug 2012 #147

They had no leadership and it showed. MADem Aug 2012 #110

Good summary IMO, especially about teabaggers political affiliation versus OWS. I think it's RKP5637 Aug 2012 #158

"occupy" became another synonym for "protest" Speck Tater Aug 2012 #102

As someone plugged into Occupy media channels, your report of our demise is amusing. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #108

I don't doubt that the true believers are all talking to each other. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #112

"The world" is not the consensus reality of MSM-driven propaganda. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #132

"Join the 99%" but OWS is the 1/2% of the 99%. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #167

No leadership, no direction. MADem Aug 2012 #105

You're right, of course. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #113

It was anarchist initiative tama Aug 2012 #193

Would you be so kind as to rephrase that sentence without the oatmeal and the "who so" in order MADem Aug 2012 #202

Nah tama Aug 2012 #212

Ha ha! The MA is Massachusetts!! MADem Aug 2012 #223

perhaps if you had spent time working with them 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #226

Oh please, don't be childish. MADem Aug 2012 #234

thanks for all u do 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #235

I do it because people don't take care of their grandparents and parents. MADem Aug 2012 #238

lol. I took care of my mother til the day she died. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #239

I'll lecture all I want--if people DID take care of their aged and disabled relatives, I'd have MADem Aug 2012 #240

good on u to do that for free. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #243

suggestion to OWS chknltl Aug 2012 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author WCGreen Aug 2012 #120

OWS was just the first beat of a big drum Berlum Aug 2012 #121

It certainly did identify a major irritation with "the system" which has clearly not been healed by RKP5637 Aug 2012 #157

Proving once again that if you have no focus you can not survive 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #139

And when this happens, no focused message and org., IMO, your foes will define your RKP5637 Aug 2012 #154

OWS? I am still waiting for "Anonymous", to come and save me NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #142

What is the motto? Be Very Afraid? We are legion? Expect us? MADem Aug 2012 #177

You're talking about it 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #151

It was a lost cause to begin with. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #153

Excellent analysis and summary! The right to openly protest in the US to create change is RKP5637 Aug 2012 #156

We have seen our freedoms stripped and turned over to corporations. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #237

I thought it was a GREAT cause and a great idea--the execution sucked shit, though. MADem Aug 2012 #241

"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." raouldukelives Aug 2012 #259

I like wind and solar. It works. The trick is to make it accessible. MADem Aug 2012 #260

I am sure there are people who thought the Seneca Falls Convention was an epic fail too. The Midway Rebel Aug 2012 #159

Occupy SF is supposed to be having a march this weekend arcane1 Aug 2012 #176

Women are marching in our city this weekend. We're also having a Hemp Festival. I think there patrice Aug 2012 #189

Shhhh...they need to believe OWS is dead and has had zero effect... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #195

getting ready..i think..the time to come out is very near.. xiamiam Aug 2012 #187

I hope so! I think there could be a lot of momentum. As some pointed out in this thread there are RKP5637 Aug 2012 #190

OWS lost me when they started calling for student loan forgiveness taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #201

How old are you? nt tama Aug 2012 #217

34 taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #224

Seems like it... Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #229

Maybe as the elections approach there will be more ... n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #233

Its main meme of "the 1% vs the 99%" went mainstream worldwide CJCRANE Aug 2012 #231

Yep, OWS certainly did bring up "the 1% vs the 99%." As far as I know with OWS was the first RKP5637 Aug 2012 #232

OWS is doing something nearly every week across the country. mmonk Aug 2012 #242

Good! OWS is one hope I have for the future. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #244

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Aug 2012 #251

Attention and focus tama Aug 2012 #258