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A HERETIC I AM

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31. The ValuJet crash I mentioned in the other thread

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #30)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:07 AM

Feb 2019

Was a cargo fire incident. Oxygen generators if memory serves, that were company equipment loaded belowdecks

The Airbus Joystick that most of their models use as a primary control for the pilots are not interconnected. Push the pilot side yoke in and turn right on a Boeing and the right side does the exact same thing.

Not so with an Airbus.
If I recall, one of the issues with Air France 447, the one that crashed in the Atlantic 10 years ago was that the pilot was pushing the stick one direction and the copilot the other and the two actions canceled each other out.

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Boeing 767 cargo jet crashes near Houston airport with 3 people on board, the FAA says [View all] yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 OP

Not good. Final vertical speed. 29,000 fpm Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #1

READ THIS FOR SURE! Jeffersons Ghost Feb 2019 #35

Bad deal for everyone. I know shifting cargo can cause issues. NTSB on it I am sure. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #2

340 mph vertical speed... defacto7 Feb 2019 #3

Nosedived into the water. 3000 feet in 20 seconds. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #4

So if they knew they were in trouble... Laffy Kat Feb 2019 #5

It could be a lot of things. defacto7 Feb 2019 #6

Right. Too soon to even speculate but I do anyway. Laffy Kat Feb 2019 #7

Another glider pilot here. The_jackalope Feb 2019 #14

Yes, on my first solo filight, 233, the back door flew open while I was on my crosswind... Laffy Kat Feb 2019 #24

Fire, I bet. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #9

Smell smoke, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 #10

Not sure why they dive head-first into the swamp. Laffy Kat Feb 2019 #12

I'm by no means a qualified crash investigator... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #17

It was a B767, which does have a yoke. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #28

I beg your pardon and stand corrected A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #29

Not that it probably makes a difference in this case, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #30

The ValuJet crash I mentioned in the other thread A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #31

Yes, the ValuJet accident resulted in changed FAA regulations for cargo fire The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #32

Some ATC Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #8

That was quick. No warning. defacto7 Feb 2019 #11

The speculation I've been reading from pilots is not likely. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #16

That makes sense. defacto7 Feb 2019 #18

Other speculation was that this accidents usually happen earlier in the flight. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #19

My unprofessional analysis keeps asking.. defacto7 Feb 2019 #23

I never worry when I fly but I do worry (silently) when one of my kids are flying. Laffy Kat Feb 2019 #25

That 747 had five nine-ton MRAPs on it jmowreader Feb 2019 #37

After watchiing that..... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #20

I'm thinking weather Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #21

Certainly possible, but if you look at the vid..... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #22

I know. No emergency declared, no distress call. Nothing. Laffy Kat Feb 2019 #27

Probably have to wait until they find the black box, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 #34

They may have been trying for RWJ Airpark, just across Trinity Bay. The_jackalope Feb 2019 #13

So hopefully they passed out from the Gs early. Laffy Kat Feb 2019 #26

. littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #15

Who flies cargo during daylight hours? Recursion Feb 2019 #33

Companies who promise goods in 24 hours Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #36