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Bernardo de La Paz

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20. Of course rhetoric failed then. Are you saying we should give up and go home and tune out?

Reply to HenryWallace (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:46 AM

Aug 2012

Lincoln was a leader. He couldn't persuade everybody, but he was often persuasive.

Just because he wasn't successful with rhetoric in the most dire of circumstances doesn't mean we must give up on talking to the "other side". That would be the wrong lesson to draw.

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They overtook the gop, now they want to overtake America [View all] Philosoraptor Aug 2012 OP

Yes and people vote for these assholes. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #1

Appeasing them or trying to reason with them only makes it worse Philosoraptor Aug 2012 #2

I agree but how? MrSlayer Aug 2012 #3

Expose them, by name and by agenda Philosoraptor Aug 2012 #4

+1. Have talking points. Be calm. Let discussants froth. Enhance cognitive dissonance. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #9

Your use of Lincoln as an example is ironic! HenryWallace Aug 2012 #18

Of course rhetoric failed then. Are you saying we should give up and go home and tune out? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #20

+1,000 freshwest Aug 2012 #21

Exposing them as ridiculous by parody and satire is a good way. Nobody wants to endorse a joke. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #5

Especially a sick joke like todd akin Philosoraptor Aug 2012 #6

Parody runs counter to my Lincoln examples, but is good for impersonal (internet) exchanges. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #12

True Colors dolt201 Aug 2012 #7

In a way, akin has done us all a favor Philosoraptor Aug 2012 #8

Welcome to DU. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #13

"one effective weapon in our arsenal" Hubert Flottz Aug 2012 #15

We need sound bites, talking points and repetition! We also need to keep quickly debunking Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #10

Agreed K&R nt avebury Aug 2012 #11

Just remember the 24/7 media, polling, and propaganda machines.. ananda Aug 2012 #14

succinct and well put DaveJ Aug 2012 #16

the gop deserves them, america does not spanone Aug 2012 #17

.............. Philosoraptor Aug 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #22

They are kooks, but very dangerous, well-funded kooks. hifiguy Aug 2012 #23

....... Philosoraptor Aug 2012 #24

overtook =/= took over but reccing anyway. nt eppur_se_muova Aug 2012 #25

Maybe they thought GOP was really GOD. Thinkingabout Aug 2012 #26