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199. Bakersfield wins, and Houston comes next

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:34 PM

Aug 2012

Passed through Houston once around midnight, it was like 100% humidity and still 90 degrees or something. And the city just looked soulless and miserable, all skyscrapers and concrete with no charm.

Bakersfield is truly horrible, passed through it many times. My friend and I always commentated when we went through it that this city must be like hell. Something about it, its hard to describe.

I can understand why Los Angeles was mentioned. It's nice to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. Way too many people and the freeways and endless car jams are just impossible. It doesn't matter what time it is either, it can be 3 AM and the freeway will still be jammed full.

About some of the other cities mentioned: San Francisco? You must be crazy, one of the best cities.

El Paso is not that bad, really. It isn't the greatest city ever, granted, but it's decent, you can find things to do, it isn't awful.

Dallas is surprisingly friendly, with nice people. I know most of them are right wingers, but damn, they can be really pleasant and nice. And the city isn't bad either for a big city, to be honest. Even downtown can be fun to walk around, at least I thought so when I was there some years ago.

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Flipside: What is the worst city you ever visited and why? [View all] crimson77 Aug 2012 OP

NYC. Dirty and noisy. n/t RebelOne Aug 2012 #1

When's the last time you were there? It's clean and full of life. Noisy, yep, part of the charm. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #28

12 years ago, the subways smelled like urine every single day. tridim Aug 2012 #80

I go up to NYC from Philadelphia 5 or 6 times a year HERVEPA Aug 2012 #172

I ride the subway almost every day and they don't smell like urine Renew Deal Aug 2012 #241

New York is great - yes it's dirty and noisy, but it's also the most alive, exciting smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #52

REally its cleaner than the smaller cities north of it. ... Historic NY Aug 2012 #77

Most large cities I have been to are noisy and relatively dirty KurtNYC Aug 2012 #164

New York was an extraordinary experience for me Herlong Aug 2012 #282

This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Aug 2012 #240

Seriously?? Have you been to Europe?! WinkyDink Aug 2012 #262

I've never had a bad time in NYC.... steve2470 Aug 2012 #323

East St Louis. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #2

I agree. We got lost, trying for a short cut...1970's. russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #5

Never stop your car in East St. Louis. liberal N proud Aug 2012 #6

Excellent advise. pintobean Aug 2012 #51

Kids, you noticing all this plight? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #136

LOL-I had forgotten that scene. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #243

Oh geez! Jazzgirl Aug 2012 #288

East St Louis... roamer65 Aug 2012 #306

Yes dems_rightnow Aug 2012 #334

Newark. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #3

I've heard Cory Booker has really done wonder for Newark. Terra Alta Aug 2012 #7

I have been to Newark on the Amtrak crimson77 Aug 2012 #10

Anyone who says "Newark" hasn't been to Jersey City. J/S. WinkyDink Aug 2012 #263

LOLOL!!!! Jazzgirl Aug 2012 #289

Dayton, Ohio Lebam in LA Aug 2012 #4

I second that AnnieBW Aug 2012 #31

Yes, Dayton spinbaby Aug 2012 #47

I liven in Dayton Ohio for a few months in 1978 whilegoing to grad school @ UD. MarianJack Aug 2012 #106

Dayton's gritty, but it has heart. n/t rucky Aug 2012 #155

Gary, Newark, East St Louis, Buffalo and Detroit liberal N proud Aug 2012 #8

The city I live in Floyd_Gondolli Aug 2012 #9

yet they seem proud of the very stuff that makes me hate dallas. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2012 #255

Flipside of what? DURHAM D Aug 2012 #11

I started a thread earlier about most beautiful city. crimson77 Aug 2012 #14

ubud bali DonRedwood Aug 2012 #90

Camden, NJ. nc4bo Aug 2012 #12

Camden was frightening Freddie Aug 2012 #45

My vote goes for Camden, NJ. Eons and eons ago it was bad, haven't been there for RKP5637 Aug 2012 #56

I drive through Camden everyday... tallahasseedem Aug 2012 #228

Camden, New Jersey Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #13

Whoa, we must just had a psychic connection. nt nc4bo Aug 2012 #15

Was thinking the same thing! Freddie Aug 2012 #42

They're averaging a murder or some sort of violent crime a day nc4bo Aug 2012 #48

I was visting Philly once high density Aug 2012 #311

Tijuana, Mexico. Cleita Aug 2012 #16

That was a few years back. Have you read The Abortion by Richard Brautigan? slackmaster Aug 2012 #19

I second that taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #27

Funny, I've been to most of these cities Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #58

Tallahassee ? steve2470 Aug 2012 #64

I chose cities that I've visited with combinations of crappy features taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #201

What's wrong with Visalia? vanlassie Aug 2012 #97

Jim Robinson UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #140

So, you condemn an ENTIRE region Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #145

That was humor. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #146

Riiiiiight. Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #149

I was just kidding. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #151

Tallahassee, huh? tallahasseedem Aug 2012 #233

I've always liked Tally steve2470 Aug 2012 #234

I'll call your Tijuana and raise... meaculpa2011 Aug 2012 #41

I've never been to Juarez, but I have heard it's even worse. n/t Cleita Aug 2012 #75

Tijuana. Please don't tell me there's worse. vanlassie Aug 2012 #93

Mexicali KurtNYC Aug 2012 #165

OMG. vanlassie Aug 2012 #171

Wife and I went on vacation to Juarez in 2007.... cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #245

Oh yeah-- that's a great one. Marr Aug 2012 #187

OMG---YES!!! WinkyDink Aug 2012 #264

Ha! Herlong Aug 2012 #285

Waco warrior1 Aug 2012 #17

Parts of Birminham, AL; Detroit, MI, and Baltimore, MD slackmaster Aug 2012 #18

Earlier in the thread I talked about Amtrak, crimson77 Aug 2012 #20

The part I stumbled on was dramatic. One block had well-maintained Victorian row houses, slackmaster Aug 2012 #22

A few blocks from the Inner Harbor is horrible poverty. kwassa Aug 2012 #24

My cousin bought and renovated several rowhouses in a part of B-more called Canton crimson77 Aug 2012 #26

Baltimore has good sections and bad sections AnnieBW Aug 2012 #32

We stayed at the Inner Harbor once DiverDave Aug 2012 #98

we had a similar experience in Baltimore Danmel Aug 2012 #131

About fifteen years ago I went to SheilaT Aug 2012 #207

I used to live in B-more, and know what you mean.... eek MD Aug 2012 #157

That can't be more than 10 blocks from the exact place I described slackmaster Aug 2012 #169

Yup, that's what I remember. Blocks and blocks of boarded-up houses in Baltimore. E-Z-B Aug 2012 #203

Yes, it's very easy to find youself in a scary place in B'more deutsey Aug 2012 #324

Forks, Washington Rainngirl Aug 2012 #21

Forks has got nothing on Aberdeen though. cemaphonic Aug 2012 #127

last time i was in aberdeen it was being bought up by rich people. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #137

They must have decided to sell. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #177

Whenever it gets hot in Seattle and they show the weather map, I think gateley Aug 2012 #252

Lol....I lived in Forks decades ago. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #330

Ogden, Utah....sorry but where we went was absolutely filthy..The nice city/county Park Ranger... Tikki Aug 2012 #23

Another for Camden, NJ n/t Earth_First Aug 2012 #25

Hays, Kansas. kwassa Aug 2012 #29

I had to work with people in Hays KS over the phone lunasun Aug 2012 #62

well, the somewhere else was ... kwassa Aug 2012 #91

My life Herlong Aug 2012 #290

I bet they are all ReThugs. nt Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #188

I dated a girl from Hays when I went to KU. tridim Aug 2012 #81

My girlfriend and I will not go there then sakabatou Aug 2012 #123

Emporia, Kansas KansDem Aug 2012 #202

Sorry to hear that and wow! Cleita Aug 2012 #239

Muleshoe, Texas gopiscrap Aug 2012 #30

Bangkok--one big unending traffic jam bbgrunt Aug 2012 #33

One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble! lunasun Aug 2012 #67

I just have to reply because I LOVE that song. :) n/t susanna Aug 2012 #117

Yep!!! Same here! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #253

Can't believe that Murray's character in the video TlalocW Aug 2012 #132

Maybe it's a joke, SnohoDem Aug 2012 #152

Longest traffic light ever jsmirman Aug 2012 #128

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Detroit. al_liberal Aug 2012 #35

There's beauty even in decrepitude.... DeSwiss Aug 2012 #36

That's beautiful -- what/where is it? nt gateley Aug 2012 #284

Gary, Indiana DeSwiss Aug 2012 #291

Hauntingly sad. Thanks. I'd love to get the book. gateley Aug 2012 #313

Olongopo, Republic of the Philippines Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #37

A lot of people pintobean Aug 2012 #55

Never said I didn't have fun.. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #96

I like traveling so... AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #38

I was going to say, Murfreesboro*, Tennessee, but your answer is way cooler. FSogol Aug 2012 #40

This! Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #61

Me too. hunter Aug 2012 #79

I was once stuck in O'Hare airport over night AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #83

I was stuck in Seattle airport overnight. DiverDave Sep 2012 #336

Hoboken, NJ? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #141

never been there.. AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #232

Not seen it lately, have you? WinkyDink Aug 2012 #265

You think I'm lying? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #298

Naples, Florida where I live HockeyMom Aug 2012 #39

"Worst Cities in the USA" Freddie Aug 2012 #43

Newark Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #44

I was thinking of Newark too Life Long Dem Aug 2012 #191

Naples, Italy lpbk2713 Aug 2012 #46

lived there for 2 weeks with a friend-local- and loved it but lunasun Aug 2012 #73

Dade City Florida DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #49

Jersey City, NJ steve2470 Aug 2012 #50

Hey! UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #144

I thought so steve2470 Aug 2012 #147

That's why I moved here. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #150

Sorry but is that a real statue or Photoshopped ? steve2470 Aug 2012 #219

No offence taken. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #235

LMAO WilmywoodNCparalegal Aug 2012 #267

I love that statue! UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #299

springfield, mo Dkc05 Aug 2012 #53

Bullhead City, AZ LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #54

I agree between that and Laughlin ugh! kimbutgar Aug 2012 #101

What a terribly divisive thread. Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #57

Well, in Camden's case it's greedpolitics and politicians which have caused so many of the problems. nc4bo Aug 2012 #63

But what about the feelings of the other people who expect but don't see their hometown on the list? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #71

Good points RZM Aug 2012 #113

Not every town has good things jeff47 Aug 2012 #116

No, I'm left coast but Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #142

Barstow's a little dusty, but the people are friendly. jeff47 Aug 2012 #170

A tie: teenagebambam Aug 2012 #59

I was there in Jerusalem for a week sakabatou Aug 2012 #122

Mogadishu, Somalia pintobean Aug 2012 #60

What the hell were you doing there? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #153

Navy. pintobean Aug 2012 #294

Wow. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #301

San Francisco... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #65

Just about the only place in the city you can get away from it is Chinatown. I won't kelly1mm Aug 2012 #87

It was just a far cry from expectations... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #139

Good Don't Come Back Anytime Soon HangOnKids Aug 2012 #248

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #274

LOL! I Must Edit. HangOnKids Aug 2012 #279

That's not fair slutticus Aug 2012 #256

I hate San Francisco as much as the next person XemaSab Aug 2012 #280

We serve steaming hot pizza here every day at the DU. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #318

Thank you. I had same vote. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #331

Gross... Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #335

Butte, Montana slampoet Aug 2012 #66

That toxic pond.... Zambero Aug 2012 #115

Lawton, Oklahoma Zambero Aug 2012 #118

Wetlake Village, California. hunter Aug 2012 #68

Really? What is wrong with Westlake Village? kwassa Aug 2012 #281

Seems like they've elected all Democrats. That's a plus! gateley Aug 2012 #286

Affluent Republican Prosperity Christians... Suffocating hunter Aug 2012 #296

Doesn't sound like the place for you. kwassa Aug 2012 #297

Also land of Elton Gallegly on the Thousand Oaks side.... hunter Aug 2012 #302

A neighbor a block away has a Camarro ... kwassa Aug 2012 #307

New York City.. opiate69 Aug 2012 #69

I heart NY! lunasun Aug 2012 #76

Bakersfield, CA alittlelark Aug 2012 #70

My dad hated it due to the weather sakabatou Aug 2012 #124

Don't remind me. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #143

Manteca, CA Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #72

Bogolusa La. cliffordu Aug 2012 #74

Dallas, Texas. tridim Aug 2012 #78

I like Chicago a lot, but Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #82

Been there, done that.. mwdem Aug 2012 #114

Chicago in January is very brrrr-tastic steve2470 Aug 2012 #249

Prague. Also the best city. Robb Aug 2012 #84

Augusta, Georgia GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #85

Phoenix, AZ. Arctic Dave Aug 2012 #86

Do tell. I lived in that shithole for too many years, but my experiences in TX put them below Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #95

We lived in Phoenix for four years SheilaT Aug 2012 #209

I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Arctic Dave Aug 2012 #295

The only time I've been to Phoenix was in February, Art_from_Ark Aug 2012 #303

medan sumatra DonRedwood Aug 2012 #88

You present a dilema quaker bill Aug 2012 #89

Houston, TX. Filthy, smelled it long before we saw it, the 2nd worst drivers I've ever encountered, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #92

Hands down Tiajuana, Mexico. Cary Aug 2012 #94

Tijuana's clean...try Alexandria or Cairo tjwash Aug 2012 #100

No it isn't, and no thank you. Cary Aug 2012 #109

Revolution Boulevard has changed a lot in the last 5 years FreeState Aug 2012 #120

Okay. It has been about 15 years or so for me so I accept this too Cary Aug 2012 #174

used to travel to Cairo monthly - at least 25 trips there DrDan Aug 2012 #160

I was standing on the sea wall in Alexandria, looked down on the beach and there was a rat king DonRedwood Aug 2012 #178

It's a tie. Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Juarez, Mexico. Zorra Aug 2012 #99

Heh. You and I think alike. distantearlywarning Aug 2012 #168

Yep, and the thing is, like you, I was also in Juarez in the (early) 80's. Zorra Aug 2012 #268

I'm not a fan of Los Angeles. Arugula Latte Aug 2012 #102

+1 FreeState Aug 2012 #121

I live in Los Angeles and I agree it's a pretty shitty city. Marr Aug 2012 #192

Sometimes when where I wanted to go was a few miles away, I found Cleita Aug 2012 #273

home sweet home barbtries Aug 2012 #194

Me neither and I lived in various places within the county and city Cleita Aug 2012 #271

UCLA has a beautiful campus, and like you say, there are nice enclaves and so forth there ... Arugula Latte Aug 2012 #283

This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Aug 2012 #292

LA is good for Beaches and Food and some other stuff JI7 Aug 2012 #293

I lived in Los Angeles 17 years and really like the city and the area. kwassa Aug 2012 #300

I used to live in DC. Great town. Arugula Latte Aug 2012 #332

Memphis in August tularetom Aug 2012 #103

I once had a crush on a French Quarter bartender who was from Leesville KamaAina Aug 2012 #229

Not only visited, but lived there. frogmarch Aug 2012 #104

Atlanta, Georgia. Because of the weather. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #105

Fayeteville, North Carolina. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #107

Gulfport/Biloxi, MS. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #108

Most of the beautiful old homes along Hwy 90, which parallels the coast, were wiped out by Katrina fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #180

I didn't know that. JoeyT Aug 2012 #314

Buffalo, some parts of Paris. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #110

Little Rock and Miami are both pretty shitty snooper2 Aug 2012 #111

The downtown of Little Rock was OK hifiguy Aug 2012 #190

Probably Some Place in India JI7 Aug 2012 #112

a weird little boonie town in idaho that consisted of a dirt road cut through a narrow canyon HiPointDem Aug 2012 #119

That's most of the towns in the middle of the state jmowreader Aug 2012 #316

really? most of the towns in central idaho look like that one i saw? weird. i would like to see HiPointDem Aug 2012 #320

There are three towns in south Idaho that still have one telephone line for the whole community jmowreader Aug 2012 #333

Port Au Prince limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #125

Port Au Prince is heartbreaking but... tosh Aug 2012 #329

Limerick wickerwoman Aug 2012 #126

El Paso, TX Quantess Aug 2012 #129

Portland, Oregon hfojvt Aug 2012 #130

Is Portland the ONLY city you've ever been to? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #238

Someone tried to run my DH down in NC! I know a state not a city let me explain Heather MC Aug 2012 #133

I've done a lot of travelling and I can't honestly think of a city that I hated. Every city has... Locut0s Aug 2012 #134

Durham, NC, when the tobacco warehouses were full Warpy Aug 2012 #135

Fresno - nuff said. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #138

Ditto on Fresno roamer65 Aug 2012 #304

Detroit, MI BlueinOhio Aug 2012 #148

Celebration, FL rucky Aug 2012 #154

Detroit, MI, hands down! mfcorey1 Aug 2012 #211

I'm with you. Central FL - Ground-Zero for Zombie Reagan values. See #276. leveymg Aug 2012 #278

Houston: Governor of Texas, George W Bush, & Mayor of Houston sued Feds to stop clean air act twins.fan Aug 2012 #156

When was that? LTX Aug 2012 #181

Mid nineties, back when W was Governor of Texas twins.fan Aug 2012 #200

Houston is also my worst city. SheilaT Aug 2012 #210

I noticed that too! One accompanying characteristic was cheap home prices twins.fan Aug 2012 #322

Trona, California. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #158

Orlando, FL Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #159

I would never nominate Orlando as the most beautiful city in the world, however.... steve2470 Aug 2012 #250

Midland/Odessa,TX JCMach1 Aug 2012 #161

Boston. Nearly everyone was rude and unfriendly. Shrek Aug 2012 #162

Boston is the bomb-diggity crimson77 Aug 2012 #173

I visited in mid-May Shrek Aug 2012 #176

Shamrock Texas. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #163

I'm betting that was actually a tornado shelter. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #244

Sign said bomb shelter-looked like it was built in the late 50's. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #246

Mazatlan Mexico otohara Aug 2012 #166

That would have to be Ciudad Juarez, Mexico distantearlywarning Aug 2012 #167

I grew up in the Springs Nostradammit Aug 2012 #242

Any city in the northern half of Utah. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #175

Utah has some terribly unattractive cities. I really don't know why. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #183

It's the rugged individualist ethos. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #195

I have to agree. Lived near Ogden, attended college there for a little while-- TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #196

i was disappointed in Nashville. barbtries Aug 2012 #179

Now I am going to win this: Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #182

Atlantic City feels like the best place anywhere - closeupready Aug 2012 #214

Yeah Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #328

Detroit, hands down. hifiguy Aug 2012 #184

Funny About Detriot On the Road Aug 2012 #266

So, So many to choose from�. FAHQ69_7 Aug 2012 #185

Charleston and Savannah--two beautiful, walkable gems of cities. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #189

Thank you for your opinion enjoy visiting the places, I will never go back to either place. FAHQ69_7 Aug 2012 #193

So many to choose Brewinblue Aug 2012 #224

The entire thread does not make any sense FAHQ69_7 Aug 2012 #236

San Jose, Costa Rica. Marr Aug 2012 #186

Riyadh Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #197

It's also 115 degrees, but a dry 115 degrees. crimson77 Aug 2012 #204

Panama City, Panama. Scabies n/t librechik Aug 2012 #198

Bakersfield wins, and Houston comes next quinnox Aug 2012 #199

Seattle, WA... cynatnite Aug 2012 #205

No! Say it ain't so! Next time I'll be your tour guide. :-) gateley Aug 2012 #254

I needed a tour guide... cynatnite Aug 2012 #257

Was it also your last time here? gateley Aug 2012 #272

Yes... cynatnite Aug 2012 #275

NYC in 1970. Greybnk48 Aug 2012 #206

Nashville gadgets505 Aug 2012 #208

I gotta say... slutticus Aug 2012 #260

Chung Qing China, No US city or Mexican city is this bad. broiles Aug 2012 #212

Probably Warsaw. Got a nosebleed from the air pollution; closeupready Aug 2012 #213

Not all their fault, of course RZM Aug 2012 #215

Good points. It was known as Paris of the East (Europe) closeupready Aug 2012 #223

Weirton, WV - nasty nasty nasty 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #216

since others have multiple entries, here's one more: Barrow Alaska steve2470 Aug 2012 #217

Most people are picking vast poverty-riddled places dmallind Aug 2012 #218

Hmm, if I had to pick one Broken_Hero Aug 2012 #220

Forgot to add my why, Broken_Hero Aug 2012 #221

I rode my bicycle through Picher back in the '70s, Art_from_Ark Aug 2012 #317

Yep, Broken_Hero Aug 2012 #325

Champagne/Urbana, IL Brewinblue Aug 2012 #222

There certainly is something to do in C-U AngryAmish Aug 2012 #225

That's all I could think of. Brewinblue Aug 2012 #226

correct, nothing to do because most go home on the weekends - closeupready Aug 2012 #230

Nanchang, China get the red out Aug 2012 #227

Oakland (which also happens to be my hometown). Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #231

i love oakland slutticus Aug 2012 #261

The Oakland Hills and adjacent Piedmont rival anything in SF in terms of beauty and scenic splendor spiderpig Aug 2012 #287

Marianna, Florida Laochtine Aug 2012 #237

Thermopolis, Wyoming. Aristus Aug 2012 #247

Probably some soulless suburb or exurb somewhere YoungDemCA Aug 2012 #251

I'm shocked at some folks. jehop61 Aug 2012 #258

most people here haven't traveled outside usa it seems... NuttyFluffers Aug 2012 #259

I Don't Know to Say This, On the Road Aug 2012 #269

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Orlando, FL. leveymg Aug 2012 #276

The one I lived in for the past several years...thank goodness no more... rateyes Aug 2012 #277

I am moving to Downtown Detroit jpbollma Aug 2012 #305

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Aug 2012 #308

IMHO, best American large city I have seen is Seattle. roamer65 Aug 2012 #309

it *used* to be a nice working class town. now it's yuppie central with all its quirks commer- HiPointDem Aug 2012 #319

Subjective, but Charlotte, NC - It's Stepford-like SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2012 #310

There are several places I've lived that Iwillnevergiveup Aug 2012 #312

Terre Haute, Indiana........ mrmpa Aug 2012 #315

Yangon and Bago, Burma/Myanmar agentS Aug 2012 #321

Lima, Peru tblue Aug 2012 #326

Miraflores is pretty nice. crimson77 Aug 2012 #327