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Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:47 PM

FirstLight (13,151 posts)

7. seriously?

How many folks here think i posted this to bash the movement? no, i am truly interested in how to have the conversation with friends and family who say that this is not working or that the movement is BS...

I have a small occupy in my town that I am involved with, less than a dozen people.

but my actual interest is how to REACH OUT to those who think they are better off and therefore don't count as the 99%...(apparently even the local convenience store guy...)

I want to be better informed, and yes, i read the stats and can use some of those facts to back up the reason for the movement.

But my original post is about how to redirect the conversation when someone has a preconceived notion that the movement is making waves and that they should be good little protestors and stay in their 'free speech zones'

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48 replies	Author	Time	Post
OWS' need to connect...and how? [View all]	FirstLight	Dec 2011	OP
"OWS tactics are hurting the message"	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#1
It's not a "meme," it's the facts.	TheWraith	Dec 2011	#2
It's a "même" reinforced by "the facts". After that it's all a matter of confirmation bias.	The Doctor.	Dec 2011	#5
That works the opposite way, too.	TheWraith	Dec 2011	#25
I thought that was implied.	The Doctor.	Dec 2011	#27
"The Facts" is a meme	bigmonkey	Dec 2011	#23
No, it's called objective reality.	TheWraith	Dec 2011	#26
The mere facts in the study you cite don't support your opinion as "fact".	bigmonkey	Dec 2011	#31
Practically anything that screws up traffic is worthy.	dkf	Dec 2011	#3
OWS IS connecting	pinboy3niner	Dec 2011	#4
Very good. Thanks!	Luminous Animal	Dec 2011	#33
very powerfull piece. Thanks for posting it.	applegrove	Dec 2011	#38
Your concern is duly noted.	Edweird	Dec 2011	#6
++.	backscatter712	Dec 2011	#28
seriously?	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#7
Precisely why I usually just read these	leftynyc	Dec 2011	#8
Time is what the movement has on its side	mmonk	Dec 2011	#9
thanks	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#10
They recognize some problems by the symptoms	mmonk	Dec 2011	#14
Here's another one of my pie-in-the-sky ideas....	OneGrassRoot	Dec 2011	#12
That would be nice and I share such a dream.	mmonk	Dec 2011	#15
hehe	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#18
Invite them to attend a local General Assembly. I can almost 100% guarantee	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2011	#11
exactly	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#16
there was a story on the radio yesterday about how Occupy Portland closed down some port terminals	renate	Dec 2011	#13
Victories are seldom won without sacrifice and a willingness to fight for better.	mmonk	Dec 2011	#17
The protests at the docks are trying to point out the fact that dock workers	JDPriestly	Dec 2011	#20
This is a recipe for self-marginalization.	bigmonkey	Dec 2011	#24
Two points	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#32
No, when they're told to stay home for safety or health reasons,	Remember Me	Dec 2011	#37
When someone says that OWS is using the wrong tactics, just ask the person what tactics	JDPriestly	Dec 2011	#19
BEAUTIFULLY SAID!!!!!	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#21
+1	AntiFascist	Dec 2011	#30
Need to narrow the focus to one issue	NNN0LHI	Dec 2011	#22
Part of this is the very conservative, elite driven, media.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#29
Do you really think the media controls how DUers think?	randome	Dec 2011	#34
Actually to a point yes	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#35
that and thought generally needs a sort of factual "canvas" to work upon	themadstork	Dec 2011	#43
Exactly	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#44
I think the OWS movement started out right	mvd	Dec 2011	#36
The civil rights movement got the same type of commentary...in the beginning.	U4ikLefty	Dec 2011	#39
thanks, good to hear	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#41
The great development here in Occupy LA	U4ikLefty	Dec 2011	#46
...	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#47
Not neccessarily a bad thing	themadstork	Dec 2011	#40
last sentence	FirstLight	Dec 2011	#42
I wonder about the same thing every day.	themadstork	Dec 2011	#45
..	mdmc	Feb 2012	#48

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