Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Yesterday the last car rolled down the line at Lordstown GM in Lordstown Ohio, I wept as I [View all]Demsrule86
(70,676 posts)23. No you are missing the point. Cars in general were not selling that well and steel tariffs made
it way worse. GM could not make the Cruze until prices picked up after the tariffs...and this lead to the shutdown. Now cars will not be made in the USA for the most part...Ford won't even make the focus here anymore...and we have been talking about GM but Ford is closing plants as well...and the new GM truck was sent to Mexico. Thousands of jobs are being lost and your post take a simplistic views of this situation.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
209 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Yesterday the last car rolled down the line at Lordstown GM in Lordstown Ohio, I wept as I [View all]
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
OP
I believe we are heading for recession. And even the new GM truck was sent overseas...steel
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#5
Thanks for the post ...very impressive. Yeah, good old Mary (CEO) what a piece of crap she is.
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#178
It depends. If you don't buy brand new and only take out a four year loan
Drahthaardogs
Mar 2019
#24
and when cars and truck are made mostly overseas where are these used vehicles
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#53
No it's not. If I pay the car off in four years and drive it for eight or ten
Drahthaardogs
Mar 2019
#27
Leasing is fine if your able to write it off, maybe not any more with Trump...
Historic NY
Mar 2019
#109
Cars are super expensive. Most people take 7 years loans these days...and once paid off
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#65
Thats just it; you beat them at their own game. Cars or anything else. We have to.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#121
I agree with that...my only point is as cars are moved overseas...we lose jobs and the ability to
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#179
Leasing is great for people who used to trade in their cars every few years
TexasBushwhacker
Mar 2019
#73
using the Uber app, my neighbor who is 67, pays 5.50 for a ride from her grocery store which
allgood33
Mar 2019
#182
Well my future daughter in law lives in Autstin town Ohio and it cost me over $50.00 for three
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#194
The cruze is a great car. I love it. The Cobalt before it which was cheaper is a workhorse...my
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#66
I've had one as a rental a few times. It was/is a fine car. Decent mileage too
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#120
1st car i ever bought on my own was a new one. I've never bought new since. (40 yrs)
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#22
Sure, with cars mostly being made overseas and increasing in prices...do you really think used cars
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#32
all I am saying is the decent prices will go away when cars are shipped in mostly from overseas so
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#204
Well if peope don't buy new cars there won't be any for you to buy as a used car. And if cars go
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#31
This is the endgame...and with manufacuring moving there will be other markets with cash...
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#162
Again, even fleet car sales are down...and without people buying new cars those
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#49
The Lordstown plant was the biggest employer in the Warren area. Thouasand of jobs will be
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#13
Thank you. I appreciate that. I looked online and read some of the newspaper articles
mahina
Mar 2019
#123
That is unture about all workers getting job offers. I know because my husband and my son
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#17
They are laying off in five plants. There are not enough jobs...and those who live in
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#28
There is a reason why retraining is a dirty word in the Mid West...many trained for n
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#43
There are very few jobs that can't be outsourced...and the retraining was mostly in manufacuring...
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#76
I think that is what will happen. Local companies will need accountants and we are looking a
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#157
people are missing that point; the car made in this plant wasnt selling well in the US.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#19
No you are missing the point. Cars in general were not selling that well and steel tariffs made
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#23
My Grandfather actually worked for Henry Ford after he bought the DT&
True Blue American
Mar 2019
#41
My son actually works for GM in Indiana. He was one of the lucky ones and was transferred last
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#18
My husband is an engineer. In his 50's he is still in demand. Chrysler is an example of how
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#67
No they are laying off. And are hiring for electrical engineers...but I think we can expect more
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#79
The new tax bill foisted on us by Trump makes it financially beneficial to ship jobs overseas.
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#156
Yes it was ...oh they already got some money (too much) but the tax bill increased the amount.
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#180
My son can't afford to buy the truck he makes and he is relatively well paid.
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#39
When new cars are not bought...used cars become less plentiful and more expensive.
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#160
There may be folks who want a new car but with further job losses , how man can afford a new? It
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#181
I guess not a single new car was sold during the Great Depression,
PoindexterOglethorpe
Mar 2019
#197
That is true. The stamping union at Lordstown killed itself so as to get a new product...
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#74
So far they are looking strong but the steel tariffs have to be hurting them as they use
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#72
Thats nonsense. Vehicle death rates are FAR lower than they were before SUVs flooded us.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#124
I have seen the job offers as I have access to the website and workers are accepting those
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#83
This is unfettered capitalism as existed pre- Roosevelt which lead to a great depression...
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#84
I am not a socialist and do not favor such an economic policy... I believe in regulated
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#159
Back in the sixties union members wanting a day off used to put a mask on and strike, and ...
marble falls
Mar 2019
#59
Wrong. My family had the masonry contract for Lordsburg. I was there. We are a pro-union family ...
marble falls
Mar 2019
#71
Scuse me Lordstown. I was there when dirt was broken in '65/'66, you'll excuse an old brain.
marble falls
Mar 2019
#126
I did and saw no mention of any wild cat strike...perhaps you have link...I texted a guy who worked
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#161
Hell, there was a wildcat strike in '96. Over more substansive issues, but still ...
marble falls
Mar 2019
#166
That is untrue and I wish you would self delete...we don't need fantasy stories
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#85
And we are losing the middle class because of the desmise of Unions.
True Blue American
Mar 2019
#148
I would appreciate a link to this ...if you know the circumstances since I found nothing on this...
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#94
Good point. The person said Lordsburg...no such place that I have ever heard of...union haters are
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#158
Yep as they lose everything some Some who voted for these Republicans will have the added burden of
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#187
Unfortunately, the auto workers are like the coal miners. They are in an industry that's going out
jalan48
Mar 2019
#68
That is untrue...cars will still be made forever, we just won't be making them... because
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#86
Our eco-system will no longer be able to support our fantasy lifestyles. Getting enough food
jalan48
Mar 2019
#90
Oh please. Lets deal with the here and now. Green cars will repace gas burning cars.
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#92
I wish we would deal with the here and now but we're too busy maintaining our fantasies.
jalan48
Mar 2019
#103
I always enjoy your posts but I think yours might be a bit of fantasy this time.
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#106
I have had few meaningful conversations with polar bears! hehe....just kidding. Have a great Monday!
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#188
To you as well. We may disagree on some things but on getting rid of Trump and the Republicans
jalan48
Mar 2019
#190
We are on the same side. And I too think climate change is the most serious issue we face...just not
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#193
I don't know either, it's happening in slow motion which makes it harder to comprehend.
jalan48
Mar 2019
#199
This is true. Democrats will address climate change...might not be what you or I want exactly but
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#205
There is less profibility in cars -particularly small cars. The tariffs added $1200 per car
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#91
It is completely true...and I know this personally...because I have ties to Lordstown...and
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#104
Every vehicle sold in the US has to meet the same safety and emissions requirements
MichMan
Mar 2019
#108
It has nothing to do with cafe....smaller cars don't have the profit margin because there is a limit
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#189
Why are consumers walking past all the cars and buying Crossovers, Trucks and SUV?
MichMan
Mar 2019
#117
I told you I have ties to the Lordstown plant and the tariffs are why the plant is closing ....I
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#164
5 years? Oh for Gods sake. The average age of cars on the road TODAY is over 10 years.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#174
The Cruze wasn't selling as noted, which cost the first layoff...but the second one
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#163
Damn NAFTA, and Old Man Bush and his narco sidekick Salinas for foisting this on us.
sandensea
Mar 2019
#107
Yep...and Clinton is too blame as well. He should never have forced Democrats to pass this disaster
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#155
That is not why Lordstown closed...it closed because of tariffs and slow car sales...bigger
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#154
The Malibu is a great car. And last year,you couldn't give them away ...had there been steel
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#191
I love the new Malibu and would like to buy one but we have to wait until hospital bills are paid
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#196
To see the shuttered factories in Youngstown makes you realize the bullshit that has been foisted on
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#151
You are exactly right HP offer to transfer workers to India...these workers were met with hate
Demsrule86
Mar 2019
#192