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hunter

(38,311 posts)
55. The "freedom" of cars an illusion.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 02:40 PM
Mar 2019

You're only free to go where you're allowed to go within the time constraints that bind you.

How often are you more than a few hundred yards from your car?

What do you see of the world beyond that?

Home, work, shopping, over and over and over again. It's hell.

When I was young and irresponsible I used to be an avid trespasser, walking, running, climbing places no one burdened by a car could go.

My own children and a good number of my nephews and nieces live in big cities. It's a joy to see them get around without their cars.

Cars allowed people who could afford cars to separate themselves from people who could not.

When the "wrong sort" of people were able to afford cars they were terrorized and harassed when they traveled.

How many relationships have become non-consensual because one of the parties couldn't get a ride home?

How many people have been killed and maimed by cars.

I hate cars.

It pisses me off every day that I have to own one to function as an "adult" in this society.

The car culture needs to end. It's killing us and the natural environment of our planet.


That may be true in big metropolitan cities Ferrets are Cool Mar 2019 #1
Agree SharonClark Mar 2019 #2
It will never be true in Texas. I drove from Houston airport yesterday evening efhmc Mar 2019 #3
What if the vehicle showed up when you needed it and went away when you didn't? Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #59
Those 3 trips would have cost a couple hundred dollars w Lyft. Personal car cost was a fraction Arazi Mar 2019 #62
So imagine Lyft doesn't have driver costs anymore. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #66
Maybe but we can't even get internet to these places now Arazi Mar 2019 #82
Excellent point. This is an issue that hasn't been dealt with, full of empty promises littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #88
As noted this only applies to the 80% Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #92
Talking to my daughter in Austin yesterday and we agree that this concept is great for the inner efhmc Mar 2019 #95
Nor in Wyoming, eastern Oregon, northeastern California RichardRay Mar 2019 #68
Exactly. There are too many areas of the country that are still very far efhmc Mar 2019 #96
The end of car ownership will go hand in hand with the redesign of cities and work marylandblue Mar 2019 #4
If this happens, it won't be because of Lyft. kcr Mar 2019 #8
Urbmon lapfog_1 Mar 2019 #35
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing this, lapfog_1. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #42
One of my favorite books! n/t Liberal In Texas Mar 2019 #57
Just what I was going to say Bettie Mar 2019 #5
It's already true in my little town. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #10
You post is so sad in THIS America. nt Ferrets are Cool Mar 2019 #18
It is sad. Women are always holding the short end of the stick if they littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #21
My wife's daughter is Ferrets are Cool Mar 2019 #22
It really doesn't. I understand. More people are just barely making it and littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #24
Exactly. Adrahil Mar 2019 #81
So it's car owners, not the clogging infestation of Lyft and Uber drivers, who are the problem? NBachers Mar 2019 #6
Wow. That's what you got out of the OP and the discussion of it? Again, wow. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #40
This is a wild thread/OP. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #43
The drivers are going to disappear too. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #60
Then they jack up the prices lame54 Mar 2019 #7
Yep. That too. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #45
Bingo! n/t Devil Child Mar 2019 #64
If it was just me exboyfil Mar 2019 #9
There are lots of horses around today. safeinOhio Mar 2019 #11
Funny you should mention that. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #12
They should have to pick up after their horse like I pick up after my dog. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #20
She cleans up just as much crap littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #23
I live in a metro area, with paved streets & sidewalks. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #25
I understand. That's totally inappropriate. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #26
No, but we have cops on bicycles. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #27
That's cool. We only have four traffic lights so either littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #34
I live near one of those stupid high-speed highways that has traffic lights every mile. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #52
Sounds like s/he had a right to be scared. Sounds extremely dangerous. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Mar 2019 #56
Around 20 million horses for about 100 million people - 1915 Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #71
combined with more locally sourced goods (i.e. less need for shipping things like produce, etc.) anarch Mar 2019 #13
I'm ready for robots. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #46
If only someone would invent high speed rail... littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #14
You don't fully appreciate the freedom of having a car until you spend a few days without it. Midwestern Democrat Mar 2019 #15
There's nothing like the feeling of the wind in your hair. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #16
Rush - Red Barchetta exboyfil Mar 2019 #30
Excellent. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #39
Your welcome exboyfil Mar 2019 #41
Cool! Awesome share! littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #48
The "freedom" of cars an illusion. hunter Mar 2019 #55
I may actually go car-less soon SoCalDem Mar 2019 #65
Well! You certainly told us! Adrahil Mar 2019 #83
My wife and I were Los Angeles commuters when we met. hunter Mar 2019 #93
You're blaming cars for rape? Lighten up, man. Mr. Smith Mar 2019 #86
I once exited a relationship that had become non-consensual by jumping out of a moving car. hunter Mar 2019 #94
Three seniors in my house. We gave up one of three cars because of Lyft. 3Hotdogs Mar 2019 #17
Gonna be a hell of a fight from Big Oil, car makers, ancillary services dixiegrrrrl Mar 2019 #19
I'm shopping for my electric car now. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #31
The big car makers are seeing it as an opportunity. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #67
Stagnant wages, more than car ownership, has burdened consumers. muntrv Mar 2019 #28
Excellent point. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #49
Are they thinking snowybirdie Mar 2019 #29
That's what it made me think, snowybirdie. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #90
In cities maybe D_Master81 Mar 2019 #32
My friends who use Uber trev Mar 2019 #38
I use Uber when I travel. Adrahil Mar 2019 #84
We already have "transportation as a service." It's called public transportation. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #33
So what wil the Lyft drivers drive? trev Mar 2019 #36
Math doesn't work for me. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #37
I don't trust Lyft drivers or... Lucid Dreamer Mar 2019 #44
Agreed Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #63
If you can't afford an inexpensive car PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #47
Thank you for the analysis. I appreciate it. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #51
most travelling fits within electric vehicle range Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #50
EV is still a car. NutmegYankee Mar 2019 #78
lyft indulges in wishful thinking Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #79
LA enid602 Mar 2019 #53
they are full of themselves. Not all of america lives in huge metro areas...simple error in beachbum bob Mar 2019 #54
Great points. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #58
But will that always be the case going forward? Yavin4 Mar 2019 #61
80% of the population lives in urban areas. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #69
And not all metro areas have good public transportation TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #75
"We are not New York City or LA" gyroscope Mar 2019 #85
Still a lot of cars in Europe. moondust Mar 2019 #70
True...however... Xolodno Mar 2019 #73
Lots and lots of bikes, too. moondust Mar 2019 #74
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #72
It won't kill off cars, but could for seniors, and reduce cars in multi-driver households. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #76
It would have to cost less than $10 for a trip Eko Mar 2019 #77
The future is driverless pods. Most summoned by apps. Some privately owned. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #80
not true in Los angeles / southern Cali Demovictory9 Mar 2019 #87
What a fun and interesting thread this turned out to be! littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #91
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