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SlimJimmy

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14. I understand the Turkish model, but those in the know say the possibility in Egypt is quite low.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 05:32 PM
Jan 2012
“Perhaps the only example in the Islamic world that transitioned from a sultanese (oligarchic) government to one that approximated Western democracies is Turkey…(which) began with the Young Turk Revolution of 1908 and resulted in the formation of a new government and constitution in 1923.

Because the Young Turks had no such organization as the Muslim Brotherhood to challenge their efforts at westernization, they succeeded in transforming the fledgling Ottoman Empire into a democratic nation they called (today’s) Turkey.

Can a modern-day version of the Young Turks in Tunisia, Libya or Egypt elicit similar results? Of course, only time will tell—but the likelihood is quite low.” [/div class]

“The followers of this Islamist party whose role model is (Turkey’s) Erdogan are wolves in sheep’s clothing. It is impossible to separate Mosque from State in Muhammadan Islam. Sharia will always be imposed by the Mullahs. Sharia is the nemesis of all known human freedoms. [/div class]

“The election results in Tunisia shouldn’t be surprising. The so-called Arab Spring has, almost from the start, been a vehicle for the rise of the Islamists. The terrorist organizations Hamas in the Palestinian Authority and Hizballah in Lebanon were both elected by the people, which raises the question: Are we obligated to support Islamic Jihadists simply because they are elected?” [/div class]

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The Muslim Brotherhood is not a big scary monster. tabatha Jan 2012 #1
I don't see ANY religion-affiliated group being much good to rule loudsue Jan 2012 #2
Ultimately it's up to the people of a nation to determine the governance of that nation Scootaloo Jan 2012 #3
I don't know. Shariah law is not very kind to women. SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #4
Brotherhood’s repeated assurances tabatha Jan 2012 #5
Feel free to *trust* their words, but their past actions betray them. Mark my words, they will SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #7
Of course. tabatha Jan 2012 #8
I understand the Turkish model, but those in the know say the possibility in Egypt is quite low. SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #14
"Are we obligated to support Islamic Jihadists simply because they are elected" tabatha Jan 2012 #18
He was referring to Hamas and Hizbolla. You read it out of context. SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #19
"And as for liberating them from foreign imperialism" EX500rider Jan 2012 #10
Was that not a Carter result - tabatha Jan 2012 #11
Yes I believe so. EX500rider Jan 2012 #16
From what I have read, they were the best organized. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #6
In the end, I believe that religious tolerance will prevail. tabatha Jan 2012 #9
That's not at all surprising. MineralMan Jan 2012 #12
Democracy must be respected Weisbergkevin Jan 2012 #13
Refer to the third quote in my previous reply for your answer. Sometimes, Democracy gets it SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #15
Democracy: 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch... (n/t) EX500rider Jan 2012 #17
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