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Hortensis

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28. YES, suckered. The Trump admin knows perfectly well

Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:14 AM

Mar 2019

that tens of millions of citizens are not up to snuff with today's world and are easily fooled and taken advantage of. They count on it.

After all, how do you think they got people to vote them into office and then support screwing them over, including with the various tax heists?

And I wouldn't feel too superior about all this. Given its intense complexity, my husband and I only know those things we thought to look up. We'll find out more of the effects of this when we do our taxes and hope our tax preparer will be skilled enough to do anything that might be possible for people at our level.

Btw, we'll all also need to keep re-learning every year as the heist was designed for tax cuts for most people to incrementally diminish and disappear, or to just disappear, and also for new taxes to kick in. It's designed to deceive. Enjoy.

Just noticed the 2018-19 federal income tax code has 1776 pages. Someone has a sense of humor.

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How did your tax return come out? I usually get back $3000. This year, I have to pay $2000. [View all] Squinch Mar 2019 OP

About the same as you. pwb Mar 2019 #1

actually any of this should talk about the taxes paid, NOT refunds.... beachbum bob Mar 2019 #2

Nobody's gonna listen to you dumbcat Mar 2019 #7

refunds mean nothing because of withholdings, if people wish to look foolish in discussing so be it beachbum bob Mar 2019 #49

They don't wish to look foolish dumbcat Mar 2019 #50

As George Carlin once said.... MichMan Mar 2019 #58

Yes, but an issue is that America in general was suckered Hortensis Mar 2019 #10

Suckered? JayhawkSD Mar 2019 #24

YES, suckered. The Trump admin knows perfectly well Hortensis Mar 2019 #28

Who decided on the underwithhold? DeltaLitProf Mar 2019 #60

As I said, nothing much changed in terms of income or deductions, so this is as legitimate a Squinch Mar 2019 #15

Was your withholding unchanged? onenote Mar 2019 #17

Withholding was unchanged. Squinch Mar 2019 #21

Whitholding what was unchanged. JayhawkSD Mar 2019 #25

Just for this exact reason I did not change anything from last year.... no change in refund mitch96 Mar 2019 #37

$416 reduction in OP's monthly income Bad Thoughts Mar 2019 #30

Refunds are a great way... lame54 Mar 2019 #46

Sounds like he was talking about both. haele Mar 2019 #55

Mine was less than last year Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #3

I got a modest increase in my paycheck, 15 bucks a check, and did about the same on refund. Thomas Hurt Mar 2019 #4

Did your withholding drop, as it did for so many? Hortensis Mar 2019 #5

No. Squinch Mar 2019 #16

Yes watoos Mar 2019 #18

Watoos, my sympathy also if you're taking a hit, but Hortensis Mar 2019 #23

:) No. Yes. So Squinch, no significant changes to point to Hortensis Mar 2019 #22

Getting face bent, middle class family of more than 4 ... missing whole deduction owing big time uponit7771 Mar 2019 #6

$1000 increase... Baconator Mar 2019 #8

Increase in what? Tax bill? Percentage paid? Income? Refund? Heartburn? Lucid Dreamer Mar 2019 #12

Refund received when compared to last year... Baconator Mar 2019 #14

Lasr year owed 1100 this year got back 140 but i dropped Fullduplexxx Mar 2019 #9

Taxes are complicated. Shell_Seas Mar 2019 #11

I got a bigger refund than last year dumbcat Mar 2019 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 #19

I got a little bit more of a refund back than last year with about the same income. watoos Mar 2019 #20

I lost about 50% of what I normally get back. Johonny Mar 2019 #26

What state are you in? lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #27

I don't make enough to pay federal income tax so no change for me. Kaleva Mar 2019 #29

Last year I got back $500. This year I owe $3000. scheming daemons Mar 2019 #31

I made a little more this year but paid a slightly smaller hughee99 Mar 2019 #32

I usually get about 7k, this year I got 3k JDC Mar 2019 #33

IRS was ordered to lower withholding tables in February to make tax cuts visible Cicada Mar 2019 #34

Increase in refund but we relocated last year and missed out on about 6 weeks of income so I don't Luciferous Mar 2019 #35

I'm going to pay about $2.5K more maxrandb Mar 2019 #36

My total taxes end up being about $3800 less this year. whopis01 Mar 2019 #38

My total tax went down. What I have to send in went up a little fescuerescue Mar 2019 #39

I'm getting the impression from reading these kinds of threads that the amount of tax people are ooky Mar 2019 #40

Federal taxes paid last year, about $4,000. Taxes paid this year, $0. cbdo2007 Mar 2019 #41

Amazingly, we came out ahead of the game. All I can figure is we did better on the Vinca Mar 2019 #42

I did okay, considering I had almost $5K in unemployment, with no withholding for that, trackfan Mar 2019 #43

Income was $4000 more as I started SS marlakay Mar 2019 #44

I just got my returns back itcfish Mar 2019 #45

On about the same income as 2017... roamer65 Mar 2019 #47

Just sent my $2K check out last week Recursion Mar 2019 #48

I still do not have my k-1 Gothmog Mar 2019 #51

We made more. We are paying a bit more. MissB Mar 2019 #52

small fed refund extvbroadcaster Mar 2019 #53

Same as you iamateacher Mar 2019 #54

Our refund nearly doubled in 2018 vs. 2017. Quemado Mar 2019 #56

last year got $980 back, this year got $960 back nt EX500rider Mar 2019 #57

We are one of the lucky ones Paula Sims Mar 2019 #59

Last year $1900 back. This year $1600. trof Mar 2019 #61

We earned less, so we owe less. Ron Obvious Mar 2019 #62