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22. Nobody is above criticism

Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:15 PM

Mar 2019

including, of course, Rep. Omar. But to refer to Obama as merely a "polished up" version of Trump, or simply valuable for his "polish" is extremely troubling (almost a bit racist, on one reading). It shows a total lack of perspective, and it stands as an apology for Trump: hey, all presidents have made bad choices. I don't accept that kind of hyperbole and shade: Obama made many strides in the right direction on many many fronts, and made some less good decisions on several others. Trump is a total train wreck who has undone anything that was good and positive in the past eight years (and more), and is a threat to democracy altogether. All I can say is, "Oh no, you didn't."

Please don't make excuses for these flagrant missteps. She is not above criticism.

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Rep. Omar is starting to get on my last nerve... [View all] Peacetrain Mar 2019 OP

I am trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #1

I am starting to get a headache with Rep Omar... Peacetrain Mar 2019 #2

I agree.. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #3

Just asking Maggiemayhem Mar 2019 #102

Me too. I'm tired of coming up with excuses for her behavior. Think before you speak. trueblue2007 Mar 2019 #109

I gave her the benefit of the doubt the first time, and the second time, but now this is the fourth! George II Mar 2019 #57

i was SO hoping for some PEACE after the Blue Wave.. was I wrong to wish for this? samnsara Mar 2019 #4

When did she say this? still_one Mar 2019 #5

here is a link..my husband caught it on yahoo news Peacetrain Mar 2019 #9

Thanks still_one Mar 2019 #13

. dalton99a Mar 2019 #10

But she's not wrong on what she's talking about. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #6

Evidently she is.. Cha Mar 2019 #23

Obama did not exercise the "zero tolerance" policy that Trump did. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #27

In 2014 we had a mass influx of unaccompanied minors Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #38

The only separations were when the children were thought to be in danger from the adults.... George II Mar 2019 #108

It "wasn't a punitive policy" with President Obama Cha Mar 2019 #42

Policy is fair game... criticizing our own, including Ilhan, is not. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #53

She's must have missed the memo. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #69

Hence, my use of the word "including." InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #79

So, criticizing Obama is "fair game" but Omar is not? Did you read what she said.... George II Mar 2019 #85

Obama's policy should not be changed grantcart Mar 2019 #91

Oh geez, if you can't see a difference between Obama and Dotard treestar Mar 2019 #56

Yes, it's been debunked that Pres Obama did Cha Mar 2019 #65

She BETTER NOT BE SMEARING PRESIDENT OBAMA trueblue2007 Mar 2019 #113

Calling the "hope and change" offered by Obama was a freaking mirage? Did she sleep.... George II Mar 2019 #58

It sounds like she did, George.. trying to broadbrush Cha Mar 2019 #71

Exasperating. sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #107

She's wrong in the way she is talking about it, at the very least. MH1 Mar 2019 #31

How can we talk about changing bad policies if we're dedicated to "sides" and one side being always WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #32

You don't know how to do this? MH1 Mar 2019 #36

Calling PRESIDENT Obama leftynyc Mar 2019 #50

I see her future and it's one-term. She talks too much and rarely listens n/t monmouth4 Mar 2019 #90

Obama isn't president anymore. Changing policies NOW is one thing, bashing Obama.... George II Mar 2019 #81

Cause if kgop their policies are wing they're wing uponit7771 Mar 2019 #115

Re: But she's not wrong on what she's talking about. Horizens Mar 2019 #54

No, she is not. Snackshack Mar 2019 #83

She was also talking about "caging" children which NEVER happened under Obama, NEVER! George II Mar 2019 #112

I did not take that away... Snackshack Mar 2019 #120

Families were separated only when the government felt the adult that children were with... George II Mar 2019 #124

This is what Omar was Tweeting in 2017.. Cha Mar 2019 #133

Omar's statement was clear.. she owes Pres Obama Cha Mar 2019 #131

That's the conundrum. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #88

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2019 #95

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #7

Exactly.. she needs to stop for a second and breathe.. Peacetrain Mar 2019 #14

I'm done with her. Had high hopes. elfin Mar 2019 #18

She's my representative and I voted for her with great enthusiasm, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #8

My husband is from Minnesota Peacetrain Mar 2019 #12

Criticism of Omar is starting to get on my last nerve bitterross Mar 2019 #11

I agree. woofless Mar 2019 #16

Too bad.. she needs to get her facts straight.. Cha Mar 2019 #21

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #26

Say What Horizens Mar 2019 #55

+1 geardaddy Mar 2019 #61

She claimed that the hope and change we got from Obama was just a mirage!! SHE is saying... George II Mar 2019 #62

That's your interpretation bitterross Mar 2019 #128

People like Omar and AOC are our future. Lonestarblue Mar 2019 #66

Some of them will be part of the future while others will not BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #72

Mostly Agree Cheviteau Mar 2019 #100

She's actually not correct BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #70

Not mine. shanny Mar 2019 #15

Yeah, and neither is BS. He said he "would continue Cha Mar 2019 #20

Nobody is above criticism frazzled Mar 2019 #22

Please don't make excuses for flagrant missteps. No one is above criticism. shanny Mar 2019 #49

+2 mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #99

whoosh shanny Mar 2019 #125

... SidDithers Mar 2019 #39

If we can't accept that oppressive systems are used by both Democrats and Republicans, WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #17

She can talk about the oppressive system all she wants, but marylandblue Mar 2019 #37

Is she on DU? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #46

Of course not, but I think it's a fair standard for Democratic politicians marylandblue Mar 2019 #52

That was insulting. No question. I know they have zeal/passion in their quest for office but, 🙄. sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #111

Great minds thing alike marylandblue Mar 2019 #114

Heh-heh. sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #134

... shanny Mar 2019 #51

Obama did not have a no exception policy of cold separation uponit7771 Mar 2019 #116

I'm done with her, Peacetrain. Cha Mar 2019 #19

Same here leftynyc Mar 2019 #29

Ahh geez Cha... she accused Obama of caging kids??? what is wrong with her Peacetrain Mar 2019 #64

Yep, Omar is trying to smear Pres Obama Cha Mar 2019 #80

As an aside... tonedevil Mar 2019 #84

Interesting.. thank you Peacetrain Mar 2019 #94

I read your comment... tonedevil Mar 2019 #97

And I want to thank you for that heads up Peacetrain Mar 2019 #106

I agree leftynyc Mar 2019 #24

And she's calling some of those hopes and dreams only a mirage. George II Mar 2019 #63

Sad to say - everytime she speaks the GOP gets votes!! Laf.La.Dem. Mar 2019 #25

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #28

I truly cannot believe you wrote that.. pangaia Mar 2019 #33

I can't either. Croney Mar 2019 #40

Count me in, as well. n/t demmiblue Mar 2019 #45

GONE pangaia Mar 2019 #89

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #44

Not defending her, but... HopeAgain Mar 2019 #30

Not when they're factually wrong on a policy. Making crap up is something well leave to MAGA uponit7771 Mar 2019 #118

What are you referring to, HopeAgain Mar 2019 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #34

She could learn from AoC, if Omar will listen. AoC seems to be LuvLoogie Mar 2019 #35

Primary her...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #41

Equating Obama and Trump -- and that's what she did -- would get you banned from DU onenote Mar 2019 #43

Anti-Semitism and lies about President Obama are all too common in our system tritsofme Mar 2019 #47

An elected official speaking openly is not a candid discussion with friends bigbrother05 Mar 2019 #48

Suggesting that Obama isn't 1000x the human being Trump is ... Alhena Mar 2019 #59

Agree. Duppers Mar 2019 #76

In a recent meeting of political activists tiredtoo Mar 2019 #60

The attention she is getting is all about diverting it away from Chakaconcarne Mar 2019 #67

I Stand With Ilhan inchhigh Mar 2019 #68

sounds like a lot of the same low grade pablum I heard in the fall of 2016. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #74

She's wrong to equate Pres Obama with the Maniac trump.. Cha Mar 2019 #75

+1. Ill-considered, indulgent, ignorant dalton99a Mar 2019 #78

Not me. I hope she gets primaried. RelativelyJones Mar 2019 #77

This +1 nt Persondem Mar 2019 #82

Not on this, she's factually wrong uponit7771 Mar 2019 #117

As I see it, Grey Mar 2019 #73

So, yet another "own goal" by one of our freshmen. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2019 #86

I just read her statement. She has accused Obama of murder... Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Mar 2019 #130

She working her way to being on an island... Historic NY Mar 2019 #92

Sounds like typical Our Revolution/JPR garbage. Both parties same, status quo. betsuni Mar 2019 #93

Looks like she is a gift to GOP AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #96

"Defending your own" is a discipline, and it's one big reason why Republicans win so often. VOX Mar 2019 #98

Trump has already done more drone strikes than Obama's first 2 years IronLionZion Mar 2019 #101

Anyone who is progressive gets trashed, period. debsy Mar 2019 #103

Oh my! The "post removed" person is posting to a thread that rzemanfl Mar 2019 #104

LOL! TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #110

I think people are making assumptions - getting carried away. bloom Mar 2019 #105

Defending her is supposed to be the hill we die on. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #119

Some people might even be mistaken lapucelle Mar 2019 #121

What is her message, exactly? kcr Mar 2019 #122

Is she saying she was misquoted? If so, she should publish a transcript and demand a retraction. lapucelle Mar 2019 #123

There's a link to a soundcloud in her tweet kcr Mar 2019 #126

K&R stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #127

At 37 years old a person, especially a politician, madaboutharry Mar 2019 #129

Getting on my nerves too n/t scardycat Mar 2019 #135

Stick a fork in me. I'm done MandelaObama Mar 2019 #136

The "talking point" on the right won't be Rep. Omar's comments... GreenEyedLefty Mar 2019 #137

She is who she is and I am not interested! Little Star Mar 2019 #138

TLLM..the obvious solution SoCalDem Mar 2019 #139