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The River

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16. Exactly

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:30 PM

Aug 2012

No failed tests during all those years and now, years later,
they insist on pulling down a cycling icon on the say so of
some jealous losers.

I'm not buying it.

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BANNED FOR LIFE: Lance Armstrong To Be Stripped Of Tour De France Titles Over Doping Charges [View all] hlthe2b Aug 2012 OP

ya. it is a bummer. and it is cheating. nt seabeyond Aug 2012 #1

There are penalties for cheating DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #2

Just for the record.. ananda Aug 2012 #3

Stupid joeybee12 Aug 2012 #59

always knew he was a cheating asshole CatWoman Aug 2012 #4

I never liked him either Whisp Aug 2012 #39

I think you're wrong about that unc70 Aug 2012 #43

don't be too sure of that Duppers Aug 2012 #58

He was buddies with GW Bush, big Republican ass adigal Aug 2012 #129

I repeat, stupid joeybee12 Aug 2012 #60

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #77

Have fun in your short tenure here..... TalkingDog Aug 2012 #80

Sorry but this panel is the sporting equivalent of the "when did you stop beating your wife"... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #95

Wow. TeeYiYi Aug 2012 #5

Ahahahahaaaaaaa!!! Codeine Aug 2012 #6

Yet he failed no doping tests... Mec9000 Aug 2012 #7

There is always an apologist for the cheaters HangOnKids Aug 2012 #10

So you are saying he has failed some of the 100s of tests he had to take? Mec9000 Aug 2012 #14

He failed the "don't buy or take PEDs around other people" test. mathematic Aug 2012 #32

I never said anything remotely close to that HangOnKids Aug 2012 #121

The point is... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #20

The one thing I cant get over brettdale Aug 2012 #26

So glad you don't have an answer... joeybee12 Aug 2012 #61

Have A Great Day Joey! HangOnKids Aug 2012 #119

He was tested over 500 times and never failed a test obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #84

Then you'd better call me an apologist too...call me weird, but not failing any test... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #97

Exactly The River Aug 2012 #16

That's how I feel too. Greybnk48 Aug 2012 #30

There was no test for EPO back then taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #41

well then we might as well strip everybody who has ever won of their honor. uncle ray Aug 2012 #46

I think your last sentence is very important jsmirman Aug 2012 #48

The purpose is to keep the sport fair and safe. tinrobot Aug 2012 #53

But you were literally just "along for the ride" if you weren't doping jsmirman Aug 2012 #111

They already got riders 2-5 tinrobot Aug 2012 #128

Yep jsmirman Aug 2012 #142

I agree taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #109

"There is now an accurate urine test BadgerKid Aug 2012 #56

He also gave money to the people testing him. tinrobot Aug 2012 #45

Wrong. He did fail doping tests. Just never got sanctioned, until now. DanTex Aug 2012 #79

Any Proof?? Link maybe?? Mec9000 Aug 2012 #81

Here's a post I wrote about this a while back, with some links. DanTex Aug 2012 #90

It is still hearsay... Mec9000 Aug 2012 #99

They did come out with it. They also have ten or so eyewitnesses. DanTex Aug 2012 #104

USADA has no jurisdiction over his TDF titles.. truebrit71 Aug 2012 #114

USADA officially represents WADA in the US. DanTex Aug 2012 #118

"but now he's caught" - except he hasn't been caught. He refuses to participate in the Kangaroo... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #125

UCI has responded to the USADA... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #126

Sorry but that is bullshit... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #98

Umm... no, there were no problems with "chain of custody" DanTex Aug 2012 #103

Umm, there were plenty of problems with those samples.. truebrit71 Aug 2012 #110

Mis-labelling? Cross-contamination? LOL. DanTex Aug 2012 #113

Yup. Cross-contamination and mis-handling the samples...Zero evidence? Not so much... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #130

I seem to remember sarisataka Aug 2012 #134

NO. The subject line on this thread is WRONG. He has not yet been banned or stripped. Tx4obama Aug 2012 #8

NO! I used the identical title as used in the linked piece from HuffPO hlthe2b Aug 2012 #11

The OP is using the headlines the media are using -- which are wrong obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #86

DOPESTRONG REP Aug 2012 #9

DUzy! HangOnKids Aug 2012 #13

Wriststrong!!! KeepItReal Aug 2012 #29

Sad that he was able to drag it out this long BlueStreak Aug 2012 #12

Sad story, but a lesson about hero worship. Deep13 Aug 2012 #15

Link? n/t tammywammy Aug 2012 #17

oops....added n/t hlthe2b Aug 2012 #18

Wrong! This is the headline "Lance Armstrong gives up fight against USADA charges" jannyk Aug 2012 #19

Wrong! Don't you dare tell me I am not being truthful. I took headline from HUFFPO, not LA TIMES> hlthe2b Aug 2012 #21

htlthe2b CatWoman Aug 2012 #22

Thank you CatWoman. I don't understand some of the latest crop of posters here... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #24

Obvious cheat is obvious alcibiades_mystery Aug 2012 #23

About fucking time. Like all right wing assholes, he thinks the ends justify any means and rules are Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #25

Not sure this has anything to do with being right wing eridani Aug 2012 #52

He's far from right ring... joeybee12 Aug 2012 #62

BS. He is and always has been. I guess you know even less. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #63

How on earth do you know Lance Armstrong's politics? a la izquierda Aug 2012 #64

Cancer. There's a community within the community of well-heeled victims/donors. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #102

And do share those words. a la izquierda Aug 2012 #140

Frankly, whether you believe me or not is so far from relevant that science has yet to define Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #148

Armstrong isn't a Winger obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #87

Please see #102. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #117

No surprise there. Alduin Aug 2012 #27

How will his trophies actually be taken away? bluestateguy Aug 2012 #28

They're on their very ironic way I'm sure. rad51 Aug 2012 #55

I think he definitely used... but jsmirman Aug 2012 #31

Everyone he beat actually was busted for doping. tinrobot Aug 2012 #47

Thank you - exactly! jsmirman Aug 2012 #49

Not everyone was doing it tinrobot Aug 2012 #54

Maybe, but when it's an open "secret" jsmirman Aug 2012 #106

Virenque, Pantani... jsmirman Aug 2012 #50

Armstrong was worse than the typical doper. DanTex Aug 2012 #82

So why does Riis get to keep his title, with an asterisk? jsmirman Aug 2012 #115

Well, officially, Riis was never sanctioned, and Ullrich was not implicated in 1997. DanTex Aug 2012 #120

Right? jsmirman Aug 2012 #141

Actually, the UCI has asked for Riis' yellow jersey back jsmirman Aug 2012 #143

Yeah, I saw that. I don't get it. DanTex Aug 2012 #145

All I know is that Riis has publicly said "I doped to win the Tour" jsmirman Aug 2012 #146

I'll defer to George Carlin: sadbear Aug 2012 #33

and fuck Dr. Phil too! Whisp Aug 2012 #42

WTF is the USADA? and what providence does it have over the Tour De France? crimson77 Aug 2012 #34

None. elleng Aug 2012 #36

The United States of America Dairy Association is all powerful. Kaleva Aug 2012 #44

Stop it!! Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #122

We of the Raw Milk Underground (RMU) cannont be stopped! Kaleva Aug 2012 #138

This is what my husband said last night. a la izquierda Aug 2012 #65

That's a good analogy obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #93

Is there a more passionate group of people then people who race bikes? crimson77 Aug 2012 #107

US Anti-Doping Agency DanTex Aug 2012 #88

Zero obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #89

He failed no tests. This 'USADA' dishonors us all. elleng Aug 2012 #35

ding ding ding, Tygart is in a power struggle with UCI Evasporque Aug 2012 #71

Actually, he did fail tests. DanTex Aug 2012 #78

Wrong. He never failed an official test. truebrit71 Aug 2012 #101

Yes, he did fail an official test. DanTex Aug 2012 #108

He had a prescription for the corticosteriod...what don't you understand about that? truebrit71 Aug 2012 #112

He didn't provide the prescription until after he tested positive. DanTex Aug 2012 #116

You know that he went to a doctor afterwards to get the prescription? How do you know this? truebrit71 Aug 2012 #124

Wow, you really don't get it. DanTex Aug 2012 #133

1) If he had no reason to believe that the medication would cause an issue why disclose it? truebrit71 Aug 2012 #139

Umm... because the medication had corticosteroid in it! Are you for real? DanTex Aug 2012 #144

So in other words you got nothing...no proof just heresay... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #147

"Doping" is still as stupid as those that enforce it in this case. flvegan Aug 2012 #37

Tell Them What You Think The River Aug 2012 #38

I dont really understand the evidence against him aikoaiko Aug 2012 #40

People who rode with him on his team jsmirman Aug 2012 #51

Do it for the little kid on their bike-so they know they can do things without cheating/doping graham4anything Aug 2012 #57

People dope in Cat 5 races. It's insanity. a la izquierda Aug 2012 #66

Hounded out of his medals. MadHound Aug 2012 #67

+1 n/t tammywammy Aug 2012 #69

Absolutely right...nt joeybee12 Aug 2012 #72

And, a US Federal invesigation that dropped everything obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #94

As a former cyclist who does not like Armstrong sarisataka Aug 2012 #135

I have mixed feelings.. sendero Aug 2012 #68

With you there sarisataka Aug 2012 #136

WADA UCI...USADA - Power Struggle Evasporque Aug 2012 #70

From those articles, it looks to me like USADA has jurisdiction here, and the UCI is... DanTex Aug 2012 #92

UCI tells USADA to "prove it"... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #127

This is exactly right -- USADA has no authority to do this obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #96

UCI has told the USADA basically to put up or shut up... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #131

NYT has best summary of what comes next in terms of appeals by the other (international) agencies.. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #73

I knew this fairy tale was too good to be true. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #74

so this guy is the next AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #75

The USADA wants to send a message to the public tularetom Aug 2012 #76

USADA doesn't have the authority to do this obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #83

Shhhhhh... You are going to burst some bubbles.. Mec9000 Aug 2012 #85

I'm pretty sure they actually do. DanTex Aug 2012 #91

No, they don;t obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #100

If WADA sides with USADA, what can UCI do? DanTex Aug 2012 #105

WADA confirms USADA jurisdiction in US Postal Service cycling case DotGone Aug 2012 #123

Lance Armstrong decision must involve us, says UCI statement BklnDem75 Aug 2012 #132

It's all over my TV set so it all must be true! LOL just1voice Aug 2012 #137

This Lance Armstrong issue is nuts SHRED Aug 2012 #149