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In reply to the discussion: I don't see were Omar mentioned Obama in the Newsweek article [View all]pnwmom
(110,266 posts)42. You seem to have overlooked some of the other things you wrote.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the drones kept falling and there were kids separated at the border
and kept in cages. When Trumps separation of families started the photos of kids in cages were from Obama's time. Obama's reason for the kids in cages if I remember correctly was because they had crossed alone or with people that were not their parents. I don't expect everyone not to know that little fact because outside of DU no one that I have talked to about is seems to know why those kids were in detention by Obama. She's right, it's the policies, pretty or ugly that are behind the face that are objectionable. She's entitled to her opinion on Presidents, war, immigration policies like separation and is very correct that Obama operated within the same fundamentally broken framework as his successor Bush and other put in place .
So yes, in one sentence you suggested a reason for those pictures. But in your title you minimized the difference, and at the end you did that again, when you said Obama's polices were "objectionable" and "within the same fundamentally broken network." When Obama took over, the system was keeping families in detention as long as it took to get them asylum; he instead began holding them no longer than 21 days, and them releasing them after they signed a paper to return for their hearings. And NO President before Trump, even Bush, had engaged in the forced separation of parents from their children, except in the rare cases of criminal parents.
Trump's policies are uniquely bad.
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Obama was the "hope and change" candidate, as you know. And that part was a direct quote.
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#16
Because reporters paraphrase, in order to write more concisely. If you've ever read a newspaper,
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#18
They don't provide direct quotes of every word out of every person's mouth. They selectively
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#20
Many of us thought it was an attack. She was saying Obama followed bad policies but hid it
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#22
It is FALSE to say that their policies were similar. Trump with great fanfare announced
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#33
Thanks for the link, Cha! We don't need Dems mindlessly repeating Trump talking points. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#30
No one is saying Obama can't be criticized. I am saying you shouldn't be saying false things
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#34
It was FALSE to say those are children separated from their parents, like under Trump.
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#43
If you read her subject line, she said children were being separated at the border
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#45
when Obama's Pentagon increased drones attack to target terrorists many here complained
Demonaut
Mar 2019
#37
You keep putting up straw man arguments in order to defend Omar's falsehoods...
LuvLoogie
Mar 2019
#54
Correct me if I'm wrong but the drones kept falling and there were kids separated at the border
Autumn
Mar 2019
#4
So, you agree that Trump's policy on family separations and Obama's were similar?
TwilightZone
Mar 2019
#8
And you chose to post facts (like separated children of a tiny fraction of refugee seekers)
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#47
The congresswoman helpfully provided a recording of what she told the reporter.
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#53