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viguy007

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158. Thank you for your help, this is new post you can help me with , its title is: A Battle Cry
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:02 AM
Aug 2012

I love the country in which I was born, the United States of America, it is a special place and I would do anything to defend her. I believed “my country, may she always be in the right; but my country, right or wrong, my country.” This is why during the Vietnam War, although I had a student deferment, I volunteered for the draft (and almost caused my Mom to have a heart attack.) I have traveled the world, and been in many places; including where there was a soldier on every street corner, armed with an AK-47 assault rifle, making sure people did not speak their mind. So what makes my country so special?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." ... "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

These words were the seeds from which an exceptional nation grew; a nation where the people were the sovereign, not some king by divine right. A nation where people could pursue happiness within the framework of promoting the general welfare; for only this could establish justice and secure the blessings of Liberty for ourselves and our children. Only in this, is the United States exceptional: We the People have the oldest democracy in the world, we can be tranquil in knowing that our government only gets its powers from the consent of the governed, and we all have an equal voice in what it does.

To preserve and protect this exceptional nation over the years, many good and brave men and women have given their lives. Now it is our turn to preserve and protect this exceptional nation. Not by giving up our lives, or carrying a gun, but rather like Thomas Jefferson, picking up a pen. "It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

There is a man, Mitt Romney, who is running to be our President, the leader of this exceptional nation of ours. Yet he seems to change his stance on issues depending upon who he running against. Does he believe in anything, or is he only seeking power? This is a man who says that if he paid more taxes than were required, he wouldn't be qualified to be president. As Lee Sheppard, a contributing editor at the trade publication "Tax Notes" said, “when you are running for president, you might want to err on the side of overpaying your taxes, and not chase every tax gimmick that comes down the pike.”

I quote Mitt Romney: “I pay all the taxes that are legally required, not a dollar more”; "I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was"; "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt"; "I'm not concerned about the very poor"; "I like being able to fire people"; "Corporations are people". Mitt would brag that he was a great businessman and we should vote for him because of this; he could turn around the economy. Yet, when it was shown his company outsourced jobs to other countries, fired employees and drove companies into bankruptcy, he stated he was not responsible, for these things happened after he left the company in 1999. However, official SEC documents, which he signed, indicate was CEO of his company until 2002. Either he lied to the SEC, which is perjury, or he is lying to us, we the people he wants to vote for him. He has secret bank accounts in the offshore tax havens of Switzerland, Luxembourg, Bermuda, and the Cayman Islands. Mitt's father, George, released 12 years of tax returns when he ran for President, saying "One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show, and what mattered in personal finance was how a man conducted himself over the long haul." When Mitt's campaign was asked to release more then two years of returns, it responded “We’ve given all YOU PEOPLE need to know" and has refused to give out additional information.

Does Mitt sound like a man of the people, a patriot, who would brave the freezing and starvation of Valley Forge, charge up Omaha Beach during the Invasion of Normandy (D-Day), or slog through the mosquito infested jungles of Viet Nam? Or does Mitt sound like he owes us nothing, and he deserves the presidency as if anointed thru the divine right of kings? After all, he says we should vote for him, yet refuses to tell us how he got enough money to live like a king? His attitude is: he owes "We, the people" nothing. YOU PEOPLE, just trust me, I am not a crook. We can question all we want about his taxes, if for no other reason then to be educated as to how our tax system really works, but we will get no answers. What does this say about whose interests Mitt will be looking out for, if he is elected president?

Yet, it is not Mitt Romney, the man, who is so much a threat to democracy, but rather the processes he uses to get elected. I am a Republican, but I am an American first. I love this country, but I watched in despair as democracy in the Republican primaries was desecrated by the power of money. In state after state, Mitt and his affiliated PAC's outspent his opponents by 6,7, 10 times, using negative ads to grind them to a bloody pulp so that they could not be recognized for who they really were. Adolf Hitler said "The victor will never be asked if he told the truth"..."Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong."

Remember, Richard Nixon was impeached for actions he took trying to hide a secret $100,000 political slush fund; now Mitt's campaign regularly reports receiving a 100 million dollars per month officially. This does not include the support he gets from the PAC's, super PAC's, and 501(c)(4) organizations. Some of these groups are not limited in the size and source of contributions nor required to disclose their donors publicly. Does anyone think a person or corporation will give more the a million dollars to support a candidate, and not expect something in return. This is legalized bribery; am I the only one outraged?

However, the Supreme Court’s decision in Citizens United v. FEC said money is just a form of free speech, so anybody can give whatever amount they want to a super-PAC to buy 1000's of 30 and 60 second television commercials. These ads will be repeated over and over again with catchy slogans, jingles, and images, lots of accusations and lies, but little discussion of the details of policies enacted if elected. That is because these ads are meant to evoke emotion, not understanding. As Adolf Hitler said: "It is not truth that matters, but victory."... "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." ... "I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few." I would venture to say that the man who has a million dollars to give to a political campaign, has a little more influence on its outcome, then the man who can only give his one vote. I do not believe this is what Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he wrote, "all men are created equal." While being able to give unlimited money to influence the political process may only be the exercise of free speech in theory, in practicality, it undermines the very foundation on which this nation was built.

We often take the exceptional nature of our nation for granted. For most of us, except for the two months before an election, we ignore what goes on in the world of government and politics. We are low information voters; we vote based on the way we feel about a candidate. Make no mistake, every 30 and 60 second television ad is a piece of propaganda, intended not to inform, but only to manipulate how a person feels about a candidate. As Adolf Hitler stated: "All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach."... "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." It looks like Mitt Romney will have in excess of 100 million dollars more for television advertising then Barack Obama , and who know how much additional money will be spent by the PAC's supporting Mitt and attacking Obama. For a month before the election, the airwaves will be endlessly filled with focus-group tested ads saying Obama is a nice guy who is ineffective and incompetent; and ads with images of Mitt sitting at a desk, looking "presidential," or feel-good images of Mitt's family, along with flags, and sunrises. These ads will be selling a candidate instead of fast foods or beer, and contain just as much real information. No matter what the polls say, in the weeks people are finalizing their vote, President Obama is at a severe disadvantage; more then 100 million dollars worth.

However, before I continue, I would like to add a personal note. There are those who question if I am a Republican and why I did not identify myself in my last post (found at http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021135316#post120 also now at http://CommonSenseFor.US ). I can only assume they do not remember, or are not aware of, President Nixon's "ENEMIES LIST", which was used to harass ordinary American citizens who he felt were his enemy. This was one of the reasons he was impeached in what is now known as the "Watergate" scandal. I fear Richard Nixon and Mitt Romney are cut from the same cloth. Remember, the only negative things we knew about Nixon before he was elected president were: he worked as an aide to Senator Joe McCarthy; he gave a maudlin speech about his dog "Checkers" and his wife's cloth coat; and he did not shave very well. My fear about Mitt Romney may be baseless, for no man can see into another's man heart. But his actions in the primaries; his secrecy and attitude when questioned about his finances; the lack of compassion and empathy indicated by his teen-age bullying and tying his dog to the roof of his car for 12 hours; and his seeming lack of core values in an endless chase for political power; these all add up in a very troubling way. I know I will seem to be a traitor to my fellow Republicans (including some of my friends) if they knew my name, but feeling the way I do, I would rather be a traitor to my party, then a traitor to my country.

I fear a nightmare scenario for the United States if Mitt Romney is elected President. I assume he will implement the Ryan budget plan, which will cut taxes for the "investor class" (aka the rich), while reducing government spending by cutting programs that benefit the poor, working and middle class families. Since money knows no nationality, and owes no loyalty but to itself, most of the tax cut the rich receive will be invested in emerging market countries, where it will get the greatest return, or deposited in the secret bank accounts of "offshore tax havens", or hidden away in gold. This money will not circulate through the American economy, create demand, and help the economy grow.

Meanwhile, since Romney promised not to increase the deficit, the budgets would be slashed for programs like: crop insurance for farmers, natural disaster relief, food inspection, interstate highway repair and maintenance, school nutrition programs, unemployment insurance, student financial aid, food stamps, employment training, "Head Start", "aid for dependent children", etc. Cuts in federal grants to local and state governments would mean the layoff of policemen, firemen, and teachers. Of course, all these things and people consume "goods and services" which employ people to meet this demand. To the extent demand is now lessened, employers will cut back and factories may close, jobs will be lost, and the unemployment rate will rise. Rather then the agonizingly slow but steady economic growth we presently have, the economy will begin to shrink, we will be in a "double dip" recession.

As the economy shrinks and people lose jobs, their ability to make their mortgage payments will decrease, and bank foreclosures will increase. They will lose their homes. They will be looking for help, but they will get none from Mitt Romney, since he believes "don't try and stop the foreclosure process. Let it run its course and hit the bottom." But we must always remember the statistics we read about unemployment and foreclosures are not just numbers. They represent real men, women, and children, who, maybe for the first time in their lives question: “Will I eat tonight and where will I sleep?” They are more afraid then they have ever been before in their lives. Without any government help, what will those families be forced to do in order to survive? Prostitute themselves, steal, become criminals in order to put a roof over their head and food on the table for themselves and their children. Is this what Mitt wants, because in some cases, this is what he will get.

But the nightmare continues: Mitt Romney has said, "I have indicated, day one, I will issue an executive order identifying China as a currency manipulator. We'll bring an action against them in front of the WTO (World Trade Organization) for manipulating their currency, and we will go after them." Sounds good until you read what that same WTO states on their Website "The short-sighted protectionist view is that defending particular sectors against imports is beneficial. But that view ignores how other countries are going to respond. The longer term reality is that one protectionist step by one country can easily lead to retaliation from other countries. [For example], the trade war of the 1930s when countries competed to raise trade barriers in order to protect domestic producers and retaliate against each others’ barriers. This worsened the Great Depression."

Will Mitt Romney's actions towards China, if elected president, ignite a fire he may not be able to control? Europe is economically frail, already many countries are in a recession because they adopted the equivalent of the Romney/Ryan budget. Austerity in those countries has only caused the financial condition of the people to worsen, and created political instability and rioting in the streets. At this point, the possible starting a trade war between the world's two largest economies would be a unwarranted risk. A trade war, when combined with Europe's fragile economy, and the downturn in the American economy caused by the Romney/Ryan budget, would result in another economic depression, not just a severe recession.

While the preceding facets of my nightmare are based on facts, what follows is informed speculation. The Romney/Ryan budget has increased economic inequality, in that, it gave significant tax cuts to the rich while cutting benefits such as unemployment insurance, student financial aid, food stamps, employment training, "Head Start", school nutrition programs, etc, mostly used by the poor. This will revive and reinvigorate the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, perhaps to the extent where the size of its demonstrations will match those against the war in Vietnam. Because of the economic downturn, and Romney's policies which are seen as causing it (unlike Obama who was seen as inheriting it from the Bush administration), the demonstrators will be angrier then they were in the first wave of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement. Some of the demonstrations may deteriorate into riots, as they have done in London, Greece, and Spain. These will only be splinter groups but media reports, especially Fox News, will focus on them.

President Obama was "hands off" regarding the first wave of "Occupy Wall Street" (OWS) movement and appeased them by using a more populist tone in his speeches. However Romney will not do that, since he will be pressured by his "hard right" supporters, including Rush Limbaugh, into declaring the "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrators are terrorist, because of the riots, and evoking the "Patriot Act." (As an aside, many of the illegal actions in regards to the anti-war movement for which Nixon was impeached in Watergate, would today be perfectly legal under the "Patriot Act.&quot The "Occupy Wall Street" encampments would then be swept clear and destroyed by soldiers, like what happened to the encampment of the "Bonus Marchers" in 1932. At that time soldiers with fixed bayonets and hurling tear gas destroyed an encampment of 10,000 people. Two babies died and nearby hospitals were overwhelmed with casualties.

America would be bitterly divided, especially if any demonstrators were killed by soldiers, as they were at "Kent State" during an anti-Vietnam War protest. And as president, we would have a man who is closely tied to Wall Street and corporate financiers, in fact he was one; ruthless in the way he handled his business (Bain) and political campaigns; has no problem being deceptive, to either us or the SEC (as to when he left Bain), along with for many years not disclosing a Swiss bank account on government financial disclosure forms; and is completely opaque and secretive in whatever he does.

But what is most terrifying of all, is as Martin Luther King Jr reminded us, "We must never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal." Both Hitler and Mussolini, in a time of political and economic distress, in a sloppy and flawed political process, achieved office democratically. It was only after taking office, did they reinterpret and expand the powers they had, becoming a dictator. We say it could never happen here, but as the little known "plot against FDR" shows, it is not unthinkable. Thus my nightmare ends.

You may think I'm paranoid, and I can only hope you're right. However, many economist believe that if Romney does what he says he wants to, in regards to the budget and China, the economic portion of my nightmare will become a reality. As far as the political portion of my nightmare, the very fact that I can make a coherent, cogent and credible scenario, is scary enough.

It is these two factors that caused a life-long Republican,to decide he could not only not vote for Romney, but also campaign against him by writing my first letter ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021135316#post149 now also at http://CommonSenseFor.US ). The only reason that letter was posted at a Democratic blog was that it kept on being taken down at Republican blogs. Its main purpose had been to encourage moderates to take back the Republican party. As I said I supported Mitt in the early primaries as a moderate Republican, after all, he had been the governor of Massachusetts, and to be elected there as a Republican meant that he had to be a moderate. It was only after Bain was brought up in the Republican primaries did I really start to examine the man I planned to be voting for. I was your typical low-information voter. It is because of voters like me that the money to buy 30 and 60 second commercials is so important.

However, when I was young I was very active in the Republican party. Because of what I say in my posts people have questioned if I am a Republican. I would like to answer that now. I have been a Republican my whole life, and have a voters registration card dated in 1993 indicating that fact. Politically I am a nobody, who even if I shouted my name from the rooftop, it would still be meaningless to most (99.99%) people. Other then being an activist in College Republicans 40 years ago, there is no public record of me. I am one citizen, one voter who happened to vote Republican my whole life, and decided to vote for the other guy this time around. There is nothing extraordinary about that, it happens in every election, in both directions. I just happen to write well, and took the time to document why I made this decision. I reveled nothing new, I just took what is already in the public record and wove it into a coherent tapestry. Watergate ruined political activism for me, while I was working my heart out for a candidate who I believed in, he was abusing and shredding the Constitution. I decided that I had better things to do with my life, so I became "Joe Private Citizen." A voter, but not an actor in the great drama of American democracy. What I found out about Mitt Romney changed that. While my previous post indicates why America should vote for Obama, this post indicates why I, and every other American citizen, MUST vote against Mitt Romney.

This election is about more then what Mitt wants to do to Medicare or Social Security, it is about what will be the character of our nation in the future. Wall Street, Corporate Financiers, all the big money interests, and the wealthiest people in America have already invested one BILLION DOLLARS in support of Mitt Romney's bid to be our president. If money could dictate the results of the election, Obama wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning. But it does not, we, the people, yeah YOU PEOPLE still have a say in the matter. But make no mistake in the matter, if Mitt wins, this election campaign will become the template for all future elections in the United States. For it will be proven that enough money can dictate the results of an election. Our democracy will be fundamentally transformed, we will be a government of the money, by the money, for the money. But if Mitt lost, well let us just say, one billion dollars will have gotten no return on investment, and it is unlikely that their investment in the future will be as great. So in effect we are fighting for the United States' exceptionalism, this is our battle, one that must be won by each of us individually.

Everyone must be engaged in this battle, make sure your friends, neighbors, and family are registered to vote; if your state has special ID requirements, make sure you are aware of them and you and your friends meet those requirements. You don't want to wait on a line, and then not be able to vote because you don't have the proper ID. The democratic process is always a social process. Rent the 1940 Academy Award winning movie about the effects of the Great Depression on a family "The Grapes of Wrath", and view it with friends, neighbors, and family (including Republicans). No overt politics need take place, the movie itself will have an impact. You were probably told never talk about politics or religion, but the choice we face in this election is too important not to talk about it, in a non-aggressive manner, every chance you get; coffee klatches, card games, casual conversations of all types. Since my first letter received such a positive response I created website with an easy to remember name CommonSenseFor.US (.US not .Com) which you can refer people to. I could use some help to add the social networking buttons (Twitter, FaceBook, eMail this, etc).

If you a student and you don't have a political club in school, start one, your history teacher will help you. I believe, this will be the most important election in my lifetime, and will shape what is America's future. If you feel my letters have any value, and you would like to share it with others, you have my permission to do so. In whole or in part. In fact, please share it with at least 5 others and ask them to share it also. Give it a small personal introduction. We may not have millions of dollars to spread a message, but we all have at least 5 friends and acquaintances. Ask them to also send it to 5 more people, chain-letter style. I encourage you spread it as far as you can, eMails to friends, Facebook, Blogs, op-ed pieces and letters to the editor in your local paper. If the subject matter of the letter is not deemed worthy of coverage, the way the message is being spread may well be. Finally send it to your congressional representatives and senators, (Democrat and Republican), and national, state and local party organs, they might as well know what the people are thinking. This is the only time they listen to the people more then the organized special interests.

You can contact me at: Charlie@writeme.com

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Wow. I have to post this on my FB account. Very valuable and informative. nt live love laugh Aug 2012 #1
Facebook has at least 83 million fake users, who's going to read it? just1voice Aug 2012 #83
The 750 million or so real users. tridim Aug 2012 #94
Damn that was a long read but LittleGirl Aug 2012 #2
Wow.... ewagner Aug 2012 #3
Definitely the longest post I've EVER read on DU but every word was pure gold. Bravo ! BlueJazz Aug 2012 #4
First may I say Welcome to DU viguy007! rurallib Aug 2012 #5
what a rotten person that is...State's Rights rules Civil Rights? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #6
The conversation continues and the journey continues. CJCRANE Aug 2012 #8
Thank you for your help, this is new post you can help me with , its title is: A Battle Cry viguy007 Aug 2012 #158
Here you go, I've posted it here - CJCRANE Aug 2012 #159
Thank you, I now have enough posts where I can start a thread on my own. viguy007 Aug 2012 #161
I worry when we take the stand that we must agree on all the issues or we agree on no issues. Squinch Aug 2012 #12
+1 DeeDeeNY Aug 2012 #43
+1, you nailed it. just1voice Aug 2012 #85
True that - State's Rights is code for bigot. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #113
most people who change lifelong fundamental beliefs - don't change 100% all at once Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #116
Yes, I am a republican viguy007 Aug 2012 #117
Not so fast... Please, introduce yourself. Albert_Wentworth Aug 2012 #123
Seems this must have struck a nerve on the "right"... hlthe2b Aug 2012 #124
Thank you for your concern. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #131
You don't care ...? Albert_Wentworth Aug 2012 #132
Your concern is noted. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #133
It will never 'be exposed' because guess what?! It's too damning to the Right! lunatica Aug 2012 #146
Well, now there's a Republican I'd vote for! Squinch Aug 2012 #7
This is PRECISELY why the Democrats must be centrist. CabCurious Aug 2012 #9
A plurality of Americans are conservative CJCRANE Aug 2012 #11
This country leans center-right. It really does. CabCurious Aug 2012 #14
A lot of Americans claim to be conservative but nevertheless, Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #33
Many moderate conservatives lean progressive on SOCIAL issues CabCurious Aug 2012 #37
But center right as of when? The center right of 10 years ago is now considered left by the right. Squinch Aug 2012 #34
That's the irony of the right's hostility towards moderates... CabCurious Aug 2012 #36
I agree with much of what you've said, but... Blanks Aug 2012 #46
Agree 100% CabCurious Aug 2012 #49
" The complete commercialization of our information will be our downfall." Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #110
:) CabCurious Aug 2012 #136
I don't agree that this country leans center right Poiuyt Aug 2012 #151
I asked earlier outsideworld Aug 2012 #134
I think it's okay, go ahead. CJCRANE Aug 2012 #145
"MAJORITY of Americans are CONSERVATIVE" barbtries Aug 2012 #25
Being "conservative" doesn't mean social conservative or radical-right CabCurious Aug 2012 #28
Check out this site truebluegreen Aug 2012 #45
Love the link, but... on an objective, global spectrum... we're center-right. CabCurious Aug 2012 #48
Actually, no. RC Aug 2012 #74
You just made my point CabCurious Aug 2012 #91
And even in a relativist sense, we're to the right of USA in 1980. CabCurious Aug 2012 #92
Just anecdotal laundry_queen Aug 2012 #144
$100 says that was about social issues, not economic CabCurious Aug 2012 #154
LOL, like you were actually going to pay me anyway. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #156
Is the website you gave us to check out Yours? riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #89
YOU LIE datasuspect Aug 2012 #50
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #87
Edit your offensive title line please. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #90
cool post bro datasuspect Aug 2012 #101
You're ok with that title line? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #103
Cool jury results bro. I guess you'd have voted to leave it. Too bad bro. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #105
This country leans slightly right. I didn't say it leans far-right or into crazy. :) CabCurious Aug 2012 #125
bullshit datasuspect Aug 2012 #130
do you do anything besides call people liars and full of shit? nt CabCurious Aug 2012 #137
Not conservative; uneducated, apolitical and dare I say, hijacked. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #58
exactly rockingirl Aug 2012 #96
There's no "talking with" the hardliners on social issues. CabCurious Aug 2012 #127
Those talking points are anything but Centrist. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #128
Trickle down isn't centrist. And bottom-up isn't left. CabCurious Aug 2012 #135
Did you read the post you responded to Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #139
In a global spectrum, Keynesian/mixed economy theory is centrist, not left. CabCurious Aug 2012 #140
You are defending Reagan - on an Econ thread? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #143
"where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." - Reagon, 1980 CabCurious Aug 2012 #155
I disagree davidthegnome Aug 2012 #69
A Centralest Democrat now, is to the Right of Republicans of 40 years ago. RC Aug 2012 #77
The center is wide, in my view (and I don't count libertarians who claim to be independent) CabCurious Aug 2012 #126
drivel DURHAM D Aug 2012 #104
I'm an independent Barry2012 Aug 2012 #10
Welcome to DU and Inuca Aug 2012 #18
Welcome to DU, Barry! VWolf Aug 2012 #20
We need hope again (and reasoned independents) CabCurious Aug 2012 #23
i like your first post Barry2012 barbtries Aug 2012 #26
Yeah, right. Like your screen name doesn't give you away. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #32
THAT NOLALady Aug 2012 #38
Amen. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #106
That's good, and all . . . . but just a nitpick . . . . HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #42
+1. You see a sheep clothing wardrobe failure? 'Barry' is what Rush and his Dittoheads call Obama. freshwest Aug 2012 #55
Very sorry Barry2012 Aug 2012 #70
For that, you would need to ask the Administrators Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #93
Oh, come on. I like your screen name. Quantess Aug 2012 #141
Welcome to DU riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #84
This should be spread far and wide randr Aug 2012 #13
Don't forget to include torture camps and civilian killing in their "manifesto" just1voice Aug 2012 #86
This is the type of Republican I remember SnowCritter Aug 2012 #15
Romney used to govern more as a moderate. ananda Aug 2012 #16
He jumped from that ship in Fall 2007 (nt) CabCurious Aug 2012 #17
Same thing happened to McCain. n/t progressoid Aug 2012 #35
Romney does or and says whatever he thinks he needs to get support JI7 Aug 2012 #107
Welcome and thank you for the thoughtful and detailed post. Skidmore Aug 2012 #19
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just wow.... what he said. n/t 4_TN_TITANS Aug 2012 #22
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Kick to read later PatSeg Aug 2012 #27
Great pragmatic, well reasoned, post. Well worth the read! nt mikekohr Aug 2012 #29
Hope you don't mind if I sent this, in total, to my Republican brother-in-law! sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #30
welcome grantcart Aug 2012 #31
Well done, worth the read Marrah_G Aug 2012 #39
I'm glad you pointed that out. Blanks Aug 2012 #51
We have a rare phenomenon... pink-o Aug 2012 #40
K&R Raffi Ella Aug 2012 #41
Long but worth it.... johnny156 Aug 2012 #44
If they did, they wouldn't be supporting him in the first place. Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #64
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You are not alone fredamae Aug 2012 #53
Oh God, where do I start? zzaapp Aug 2012 #54
Those countries do NOT all have universal "socialized" healthcare. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #56
I was hospitalized in Spain during a vacation and it was free (100% American w/ US passport) DonRedwood Aug 2012 #60
K&R... Historic NY Aug 2012 #57
Just 1 correction... Strega Ribiera Aug 2012 #59
Now if I could just remember beveeheart Aug 2012 #61
This was really written by a Republican? EC Aug 2012 #62
This person shows he loves his country more then he hates dems. We should all southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #63
Sir rtracey Aug 2012 #65
I hope more Repub. voters will take such a clear-eyed look at their club... polichick Aug 2012 #66
So, from this lenghty response am I correct Bainbridge Bear Aug 2012 #67
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Yeah, same thought as well. wickerwoman Aug 2012 #114
I have a family member who wants to be a moderate fiscal republican marlakay Aug 2012 #68
Like many have already said. Wow. Smickey Aug 2012 #71
No not the award. Smickey Aug 2012 #147
Does this mean I am talking to myself? Smickey Aug 2012 #148
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Thanks for your work putting this all together. EXCELLENT POST! pnwmom Aug 2012 #73
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Should be submitted . . . Richard D Aug 2012 #78
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Repukes sure are popular around here, especially around economics just1voice Aug 2012 #81
THis should be printed and talked about riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #82
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Hearty KICK and a HIGH Recommend for good old fashioned common sense! Raster Aug 2012 #97
CJCRANE (12,166 posts ) 4 t 4 Aug 2012 #99
You did read the VERY FIRST PART OF THE POST, RIGHT? Raster Aug 2012 #102
Bravo! Extremely well written. I'm bookmarking this one. McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #98
yes really well done after 21,000 4 t 4 Aug 2012 #100
This is the SMARTEST post I have ever read here. NashvilleLefty Aug 2012 #108
To viguy007: A hearty welcome to DU ! steve2470 Aug 2012 #109
K&R you said it! airplaneman Aug 2012 #111
In here are some hints on how to run people that can provide useful votes in red districts TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #112
I read this right after vi posted it Astazia Aug 2012 #115
Brilliant! AnnieK401 Aug 2012 #118
Rec #260 CJCRANE Aug 2012 #119
Thank you very much. viguy007 Aug 2012 #121
Just send me a personal message, or reply to one of my posts, when you're ready. CJCRANE Aug 2012 #122
But before I publish this is there anyway outsideworld Aug 2012 #149
I don't know any more than he has written CJCRANE Aug 2012 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author outsideworld Aug 2012 #120
Well written trocar Aug 2012 #129
Not Voting for Republican rjlobo422 Aug 2012 #138
Very happy you are doing this. Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #142
Found this doing a search of "Republicans Voting for Obama" jwhitesj Aug 2012 #152
Look at the dates. It was posted here on DU first. nt CJCRANE Aug 2012 #153
Um, with all due respect to a new Obama voter... brooklynite Aug 2012 #157
I agree with you 100% viguy007 Aug 2012 #160
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