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treestar

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97. Nice try, but the women DO want the law to continue to proceed against him

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:26 AM

Aug 2012

for what they reported he did to them.

supporters work very hard to try to muddy the facts and even lie in order to get their hero into martyr / victim position.

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So if it turns out that Julian Assange is guilty of rape.... [View all] Scuba Aug 2012 OP

Flip that around. Robb Aug 2012 #1

Your question would be the "flip" of "How many war crimes do you get to commit.... Scuba Aug 2012 #4

The point is pretty transparent. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #34

Logic fail treestar Aug 2012 #46

If Assange is guilty none of the evidence goes away. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #53

OH, balls... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #71

But he probably wasn't guilty of forcible rape or jerseygal Aug 2012 #2

so was it rape .. or was it rape rape ... littlewolf Aug 2012 #42

I'm pretty sure that the victim's opinion is paramount for a rape charge, and sadly for the Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #43

That one was shown to be false yesterday treestar Aug 2012 #48

Really? When/Where? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #66

Having a history of inventing intentions out of thin air, The Doctor. Aug 2012 #89

I'll have to search DU treestar Aug 2012 #95

Like so many, you have assigned intentions that aren't there The Doctor. Aug 2012 #96

Nice try, but the women DO want the law to continue to proceed against him treestar Aug 2012 #97

Thought you were going to ask dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #3

Separate the principles of whistle blowing vs the creepiness of Assange CabCurious Aug 2012 #5

just for the CRAZY... xchrom Aug 2012 #8

Because anyone who holds a different pov from you is just craaaazy! randome Aug 2012 #11

Crazy to think these two women deserve to be heard in court... CabCurious Aug 2012 #18

I hide Assange threads that aren't posted in Swedish pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #6

No prob. I cross-posted in the Sweden forum. Scuba Aug 2012 #9

Tack. pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #20

hah! :D CabCurious Aug 2012 #23

He's guilty of rape?! Any links that state this? n/t vaberella Aug 2012 #7

OP posits a hypothetical. nt pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #12

The 2 women in sweden accuse him of trying to impregnate without their consent CabCurious Aug 2012 #13

Uhm, I think most Americans consider sexually penetrating someone who is asleep and gollygee Aug 2012 #27

Indeed LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #33

this is what makes me very skeptical of the pursuit of him gollygee Aug 2012 #35

Bingo n/t LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #37

Technically, the reason he's being pursued is because he FLED CabCurious Aug 2012 #41

As I said further down LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #77

So we should allow him to run because???? CabCurious Aug 2012 #40

Yep LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #50

That does not matter in the legal system treestar Aug 2012 #51

Way to misinterpret what I said LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #54

So your theory is: A state with a poor record of rape prosecution isn't allowed to prosecute anyone? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #74

They're allowed to gollygee Aug 2012 #76

In the early Fall of 2010, Assange supporters were assuring us Swedish women cry rape! as a hobby struggle4progress Aug 2012 #80

That sounds like something someone accused of rape might say gollygee Aug 2012 #82

And I apolgoize for my typos gollygee Aug 2012 #83

... LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #78

... Sweden has the second highest number of rapes in the world ... Only the small African country struggle4progress Aug 2012 #92

Good thing I wasn't making a cross-country comparison then LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #94

Assange is not Wikileaks; his supporters are making the mistake of conflating the two. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #10

It's really depressing CabCurious Aug 2012 #14

What about the things he exposed? Scuba Aug 2012 #17

The whistle blowers exposed them. Assange just took the credit. CabCurious Aug 2012 #19

What about the things that WERE exposed, then? Scuba Aug 2012 #25

What about the bank records he refuses to publish & other intel he holds for his own leverage? CabCurious Aug 2012 #38

I'm not defending him. I'm trying to shift focus to the wrongs that were exposed, then forgotten. Scuba Aug 2012 #47

Those don't give him a pass on criminal charges. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #26

I would never suggest they should. But the point is the crimes that were exposed have been lost ... Scuba Aug 2012 #29

It isn't impossible to have outrage for both. n/t gollygee Aug 2012 #30

But we don't, do we? Scuba Aug 2012 #31

I don't know, it depends on whom you mean by "we" gollygee Aug 2012 #32

Some of us do? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #36

I'm all for Assange for facing justice for rape or any other crime he committed.... Scuba Aug 2012 #58

Those exposures happened 2 years ago Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #60

OK, but what was the volume two years ago compared to today? Scuba Aug 2012 #61

That depends on who's accused of it Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #62

I'm pretty sure the US military is also well known internationally... Scuba Aug 2012 #63

Which has nothing at all to do with... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #64

Are you avoiding my point on purpose? What I've been saying is that Assange's crimes .... Scuba Aug 2012 #68

Has anyone said they should? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #73

You are crediting Assange for work done by whistleblowers and journalists CabCurious Aug 2012 #39

I may have proven my point. This has become about Assange, not war crimes nor diplomatic assholery. Scuba Aug 2012 #16

Yes, it's about Assange's behavior with these two women CabCurious Aug 2012 #21

I think that there are many fervent supporters of our President KoKo Aug 2012 #59

+1 nt TBF Aug 2012 #93

Not Really...you haven't yet got enough folks who really want to go through KoKo Aug 2012 #69

OCCUPY!!!!!!! randome Aug 2012 #15

Kinda flabbergasted me, too pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #24

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2012 #22

The European Arrest Warrant specified "rape" Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #28

Well I like to know details...Do you have a link to the European Arrest Warrant? KoKo Aug 2012 #65

It was examined extensively in his appeals against extradition. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #70

You don't have a link...nor do you have the "text." Do yu know how to use Google? KoKo Aug 2012 #86

You apparently don't? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #88

Are YOU David Allen Green or are you "Jack of Kent" who supports "Sound Science?" KoKo Aug 2012 #90

if Sweden wants to CHARGE him, let them CHARGE him. Thus far, they have not LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #44

... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #55

No, and it is the supporters who must think this treestar Aug 2012 #45

What about the wrongs that were exposed? Why do they get so little attention? Scuba Aug 2012 #49

They have nothing to do with what happened in Sweden treestar Aug 2012 #52

I wrote the OP. My point was that what happened in Sweden had nothing to do with the .... Scuba Aug 2012 #56

and yet Australia has already confirmed the US' intention. robinlynne Aug 2012 #67

Sweden unlikely to extradite Assange to US: Australia struggle4progress Aug 2012 #75

We don't have any evidence of CIA Ops....but, KoKo Aug 2012 #57

Wait hold it, did you use "jaywalking" as an equivalanet to rape? gollygee Aug 2012 #72

Sorry, my poorly-constructed sentence.... Scuba Aug 2012 #81

The US doesn't. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #87

I remember a story on Scott Ritter trying to connect with a minor came out right in the middle of still_one Aug 2012 #79

Yes...I remember that....and agree. n/t KoKo Aug 2012 #91

30 seconds of anger of what WikiLeaks released Matariki Aug 2012 #84

So if it turns out Mitt Romney is guilty of tax fraud Coyotl Aug 2012 #85