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EndGOPPropaganda

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9. Tell them they're suckers

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:20 AM

Mar 2019

In central Pa, here’s my suggestion:
Don’t engage on policy, it’s fruitless.
Engage on propaganda. Tell them Fox lies to them to get votes for billionaire tax cuts. Ask them who Rupert Murdoch is. Ask them if they know what he did in the U.K. and Australia. Ask them if they like getting lied to and controlled by a foreigner.
Ask them how it feels to be suckered by billionaires who are picking their pocket. Call them suckers and fools. Tell them Dems are the party of average people, that Jesus would be a Dem today, and Republicans are a party controlled by billionaires who are lying to people like them.

This is my strategy in Westerm PA and Ohio. And it works! No one will ever tell you you’re right to your face. But you’ll see their views changing over time. The key is to get them to doubt Fox.

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STOP Calling Social Security & Medicare Entitlements! [View all] kpete Mar 2019 OP

They have to brand it that way, duforsure Mar 2019 #1

We paid for them, so we are "entitled" to them. I do get that GOPers have made the term evil. Hoyt Mar 2019 #2

Yip, I agree 100% watoos Mar 2019 #4

Same here Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #6

Yes exactly Freddie Mar 2019 #5

Exactly. We are legitimately ENTITLED to them; GOP has trashed a perfectly good word. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #17

Exactly. We paid for them so we are entitled to them. Republicans love twisting words emulatorloo Mar 2019 #28

Exactly right. JayhawkSD Mar 2019 #38

we let team limbaugh spin it for 30 years - money is free speech, corporations are people, certainot Mar 2019 #50

They ARE ENTITLEMENTS. People pay into Social Security and Medicare, and they are ENTITLED still_one Mar 2019 #3

You are right, I agree that watoos Mar 2019 #7

Tell them they're suckers EndGOPPropaganda Mar 2019 #9

I know better than to debate with zombies. I give them zingers. watoos Mar 2019 #13

It's not a debate. You laugh at them. Call them idiots EndGOPPropaganda Mar 2019 #63

Excellent response. Not only farmers, the tax bill gave those "socialist" corporations all kinds of still_one Mar 2019 #11

Not merely "has developed". The negative spin was quite deliberate. JHB Mar 2019 #33

Yes! Never use the "E word". EndGOPPropaganda Mar 2019 #8

NO! johnp3907 Mar 2019 #10

Right after I start. (n/t) Iggo Mar 2019 #12

It's not the word, it's how the media and right wing use them to their desires. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2019 #14

Sorry folks, this is unrelated to this trend , but I wanted to know how NRaleighLiberal's trip ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #29

Superb! Wonderful hosts, fellow gardeners, lots of seeds given away, NRaleighLiberal Mar 2019 #30

Excellent, my friend, excellent!!! nt SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #31

+1! JHB Mar 2019 #34

yes, it is how "the media and right wing use" the word. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #54

And anyone thinking Medicare is "free" wait until you hit 65.............. Bengus81 Mar 2019 #15

You got that right watoos Mar 2019 #19

That's why area51 Mar 2019 #32

Call them Socialism, as they should be. PubliusEnigma Mar 2019 #16

START calling defense spending nondiscretionary! populistdriven Mar 2019 #18

Bingo, watoos Mar 2019 #20

I love taking away the rights edge policies by using their own logic against them. populistdriven Mar 2019 #21

Again I agree, watoos Mar 2019 #24

My favorite Eisenhower quote: UpInArms Mar 2019 #48

Thank you!! zentrum Mar 2019 #22

It is a legal term and so they *must* be called entitlements Odoreida Mar 2019 #23

They are entitlements. llmart Mar 2019 #25

If they are then I am "entitled" to all of the money I have paid into these programs for 45 years. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #26

You are entitled to nothing! IronLionZion Mar 2019 #27

In Social Security language Silver Swan Mar 2019 #35

In the average news cycle, though, it sends the wrong dog whistle. FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #36

Why? fescuerescue Mar 2019 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Mar 2019 #39

They ARE entitlements! marybourg Mar 2019 #40

exactly Cerulean Southpaw Mar 2019 #42

Absolutely jdu Mar 2019 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #43

+1 n/t area51 Mar 2019 #55

I AM ENTITLED to them... debsy Mar 2019 #44

No shit right!? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #45

Which is why ... mntleo2 Mar 2019 #46

We need to reclaim the word, just like the word "liberal." nt Ilsa Mar 2019 #47

You are correct. murielm99 Mar 2019 #56

No pamela Mar 2019 #49

I said that the first time... SergeStorms Mar 2019 #51

You bet. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #52

EXCEPT THATS WHAT THEY ARE - people are entitled to them exactly because they are an earned Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2019 #53

This drives me absolutely bonkers!!! karin_sj Mar 2019 #57

We are entitled to Social Security and Medicare Progressive dog Mar 2019 #58

Protect them? keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #59

Shouldn't it be "Stop lying and calling Social Security and Medicare entitlements" cstanleytech Mar 2019 #60

earned benefits to which you are entitled. eom deek Mar 2019 #61

But this is a whole big pot of money that the entitled rich aren't entitled to steal . . . yet. tclambert Mar 2019 #62

Doubling down on directly reclaiming the word "entitlements" is a big mistake. summer_in_TX Mar 2019 #64

Goddamnit! They are entitlements. I toiled for them for three decades. Texin Mar 2019 #65

This is one thing the Dems need to learn... Catch2.2 Mar 2019 #66

Entitlement Definition SpezelEd Mar 2019 #67

"You're entitled to it. Please stop calling it welfare." You win the prize for best answer. pnwmom Mar 2019 #68

Technically, it's insurance DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #69