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The Velveteen Ocelot

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23. Many of those cases had to do with unduly burdensome signature requirements.
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 07:06 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Wed Mar 20, 2019, 07:50 PM - Edit history (1)

It's pretty hard to claim that disclosing tax returns would be unduly burdensome to anyone (I could turn over mine tomorrow). I think the Thornton case can be distinguished because in that case the court regarded term limits as imposing a hard qualification (not a ballot access requirement) - that is, a candidate for Congress (not the presidency, which wasn't addressed) who'd already served two terms couldn't run again, period. If, however, a candidate can get on the ballot simply by producing his tax returns, that's just a question of ballot access, like getting a certain number of signatures, meeting time deadlines or paying a filing fee. It's not a qualification in the same sense as being a natural-born citizen, which can't be fixed; it's an easily-curable matter of meeting ballot access requirements. I look at it as the difference between being something (e.g., 35, a natural-born citizen, or someone who's already had two terms) and doing something (e.g., collecting a certain number of signatures or releasing your tax returns).

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I think this is a good law requiring candidates for President to submit their taxes or not be on a Pachamama Mar 2019 #1
presidential eligibility is determined by the federal constitution, not states nt msongs Mar 2019 #2
The Constitution sets *minimum* requirements- you have to be at least 35 The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #12
So states could rule "no republicans" or " only white males" ? MichMan Mar 2019 #18
That would violate other laws and constitutional principles. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #19
US Term Limits vs Thornton said that states cannot have stricter eligibility requirements tritsofme Mar 2019 #22
Many of those cases had to do with unduly burdensome signature requirements. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #23
It's interesting to note as well, that it was the conservatives who dissented in Thornton. tritsofme Mar 2019 #26
They never needed this legislation before because almost every Presidential candidate released taxes MiniMe Mar 2019 #3
Trumpers will have a hard time doing write in's since they can't spell... Historic NY Mar 2019 #4
Maybe they should require all candidates running for federal office (House and Senate too) to alwaysinasnit Mar 2019 #5
Should apply to all federal, state & local ? MichMan Mar 2019 #13
You're right. alwaysinasnit Mar 2019 #14
most likely any and all such laws will be ruled as unconstitutional, including giving electoral vote beachbum bob Mar 2019 #6
Nope. States have complete control over how their electors are awarded. NYC Liberal Mar 2019 #9
I'm not sure that is true MichMan Mar 2019 #15
There are no restrictions: NYC Liberal Mar 2019 #20
So the ones who need to supply tax returns are the electors... MichMan Mar 2019 #24
Man that would be so awesome Blue Owl Mar 2019 #7
Bernie too Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #8
Aren't these Blue states where he has no chance to win anyway? Polybius Mar 2019 #10
If only solid blue states pass it BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #11
Good news is, his stupid base isn't big enough. shanny Mar 2019 #17
Blue states, I assume. shanny Mar 2019 #16
This is a waste of time, and will likely fail a Supreme Court challenge Tarc Mar 2019 #21
Term limits are a great analogy MichMan Mar 2019 #25
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #27
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