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LastLiberal in PalmSprings

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31. Fat Donnie seems to think otherwise.

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:36 PM

Mar 2019

From CNN in June 2018:

Trump: 'I have the absolute right to pardon myself'

Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump asserted Monday that he has the right to pardon himself but suggested that he won't use that power, adding that the special counsel investigation is "unconstitutional."

"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong? In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!" the President tweeted.

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Accepting a pardon requires the recipient acknowledges his or her guilt, however, and since Donnie Two Scoops has never admitted to doing anything wrong about anything else in his life, pardoning himself might be antithetical to his self-preservation instincts.

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No more indictments might just be a brilliant move by Mueller [View all] bitterross Mar 2019 OP

and no ability to pardon JI7 Mar 2019 #1

SDNY is federal, so those crimes are pardonable, but crimes charged by The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #2

He can't pardon himself. LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #4

Says who? Brett "I Love Beer" Kavanaugh will totally let him pardon himself. OliverQ Mar 2019 #13

Is that true ? PTWB Mar 2019 #14

Nobody has ever tried so it's unknown, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #22

No, "most" don't say that. former9thward Mar 2019 #75

Citations, please? I haven't seen many who think it can be done, and a lot who can't. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #79

Of course you gave no citations either. former9thward Mar 2019 #83

All righty, then: The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #84

Fat Donnie seems to think otherwise. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2019 #31

The idea is absurd. It's as if Trumpy can declare himself a king, and we're all his subjects. But... Eyeball_Kid Mar 2019 #82

His real crimes are at the federal level, though FellsPointLib Mar 2019 #3

He has decades of real crimes. Mueller sent evidence of crimes he FOUND to SDNY blm Mar 2019 #5

If he had "decades of real crimes" why has no one prosecuted him? former9thward Mar 2019 #76

Welcome to DU. Glad you decided to post after all this time. rzemanfl Mar 2019 #6

One post in six and a half years! ZZenith Mar 2019 #8

what's your accusation exactly? FellsPointLib Mar 2019 #36

I am certain our differences are much greater than that! ZZenith Mar 2019 #39

Like what? FellsPointLib Mar 2019 #40

So you made more than one post in six and a half years? ZZenith Mar 2019 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Mar 2019 #67

Hello. ahoysrcsm Mar 2019 #68

Trump can't be indicted under Justice Dept. policy. This isn't Mueller's fault. pnwmom Mar 2019 #9

Can't this policy be changed by an Attorney General? Generic Brad Mar 2019 #28

Yeah, so? MUELLER can't change it. And nobody ever thought William Barr was an ally. pnwmom Mar 2019 #33

You say this as if there's some law that makes this illegal ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #29

It would be illegal if, as many believe, Assange and Wikileaks are really a Russian operation. pnwmom Mar 2019 #35

No, that's still not illegal ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #42

Federal law prohibits ANYONE from soliciting from a foreign source anything of value for a campaign. pnwmom Mar 2019 #43

So MAAAYBE Roger Stone could be in trouble. But he's not even indicted for it, is he? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #44

They're not done with Roger Stone. No one has any idea what he's going to admit to pnwmom Mar 2019 #45

Okay, information can have 'value' but this is campaign FINANCE law we're dealing with mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #52

You're assuming that the FBI wasn't taping the Russians and Wikileaks and their conversations pnwmom Mar 2019 #55

Good talk, and obviously I'm hoping for the best, but I'm pessimistic ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #56

The things of value didn't have to come from Russia. Wikileaks and Assange are also foreign sources. pnwmom Mar 2019 #57

The Steele Dossier said Russia went to a third party for plausible deniability of their involvement JonLP24 Mar 2019 #66

I agree with your last sentence (as well as everything else you say) JonLP24 Mar 2019 #65

Saw on MSNBC that prominent NY prosecutors said sitting POTUS could be indicted. triron Mar 2019 #50

He has a very long history of being upstanding, honorable and trustworthy lunatica Mar 2019 #18

nt bdamomma Mar 2019 #34

I dunno... FellsPointLib Mar 2019 #41

Your Concern is noted. lunatica Mar 2019 #61

New York State and the City of New York say otherwise. nt UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #20

The State of New York has plenty of crimes that are just as serious. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #23

If you dig in deep Rural_Progressive Mar 2019 #25

The NY crimes are just as real and the prisons there are much less hospitable. pnwmom Mar 2019 #63

We are not finished with tRump yet. And nobody talking has seen the report! Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #7

Or no new indictments might videohead5 Mar 2019 #10

+1 ancianita Mar 2019 #12

According to this there are no more indictments under seal Quixote1818 Mar 2019 #15

+1000 UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #21

Sealed indictments don't stay sealed this lpng theboss Mar 2019 #47

Or no new indictments might mean Peace06 Mar 2019 #49

Someone here said it's reported there are no sealed indictments. triron Mar 2019 #59

Mueller is a phenomenally brilliant strategist. He does nothing randomly. Amaryllis Mar 2019 #11

+1 n/t Lulu KC Mar 2019 #17

I don't know. I hope YOU'RE right and I'm wrong. calimary Mar 2019 #16

STILL... czarjak Mar 2019 #19

I hate to say this with all my heart and soul but unless there are some huge revelations in the Pepsidog Mar 2019 #24

No he isn't. meadowlander Mar 2019 #62

I hope so. But I'm afraid Americans have a short memory and in 2 years this will be old news. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #72

No, we keep the hearings going in Congress all the way dumbcat Mar 2019 #74

Amen. I hope for all our sake I am 100% wrong. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #85

It's already a "something burger." Trump has been exposed to the world. He is not who he has said allgood33 Mar 2019 #64

True but didn't we all ready know he was con man. If this is it, then it's Pepsidog Mar 2019 #71

The only problem is since the DOJ has a policy of not indicting a president. lancelyons Mar 2019 #78

Completely brilliant. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #26

Yes, Mueller wasn't elected. moondust Mar 2019 #27

hmm.... bdamomma Mar 2019 #30

I'm tired of 8-dimensional brilliant chess moves. MadDAsHell Mar 2019 #32

Amen, Hallelujah, All That Jazz theboss Mar 2019 #48

Agreed. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2019 #58

We can hope. But trump isn't going to go down on indictments regarding his foundation and taxes. Hoyt Mar 2019 #37

Looks like a funeral at MSNBC. Maddow looks dumbstruck Pepsidog Mar 2019 #38

mueller is a repubican DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #46

Bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #51

"I have never heard anybody but Trump accuse him of political bias" -- Let's not go *that* far Azathoth Mar 2019 #60

bullshit can be proven DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #70

I trust Mueller. If he didnt indict someone it wasnt because they were not obviously guilty Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #80

You know, I really want to believe mueller is trustworthy DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #86

Its possible that this is true. lancelyons Mar 2019 #77

Not buying. Why weren't Americans indicted for conspiring with the Russians?? triron Mar 2019 #54

Apparently the lying and stonewalling prevented Mueller from obtaining necessary evidence wishstar Mar 2019 #69

I just hope that he passed any relevant cases to the relevant states. avebury Mar 2019 #73

Brilliant!!! Let the Traitor-in-Chief off the goddamn hook... Mueller's a fuckin' GENIUS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #81

I completely agree BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #87

This line is giving all the Trump supporters OliverQ Mar 2019 #88