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jsmirman

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19. Is there really a sport left?

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 03:45 PM

Aug 2012

I know they claim it's a new era, but why shouldn't I still believe that it's nothing but a continued advantage-seeking arms race simply with different drug/doping procedure names?

It's all well and good to strip your seven time in a row champion of your biggest Tour, but after that... what the heck is left of your "sport"?

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A case based on jealousy and innuendo, the hounding of Lance Armstrong. [View all] MadHound Aug 2012 OP

So where's the Armstrong legal defense fund? KeepItReal Aug 2012 #1

Would you want to keep being subjected to investigations, MadHound Aug 2012 #3

Name a world champion that wouldn't fight to the end to defend their medals or trophys KeepItReal Aug 2012 #5

Of course, they all would. DanTex Aug 2012 #8

Thank you DanTex. Lance Armstrong just lost everything today. Dawgs Aug 2012 #14

Except all Lance is doing is telling the USADA to go pound sand... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #18

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! n/t malaise Aug 2012 #38

The trouble with him giving up sarisataka Aug 2012 #2

UCI's statement is vague brentspeak Aug 2012 #6

The UCI and USADA have not had a great relationship sarisataka Aug 2012 #11

Actually, it wouldn't be very sad. DanTex Aug 2012 #12

I wasn't aware of the more recent changes sarisataka Aug 2012 #13

Having raced against LeMond (wow!), you must be aware of what was going on during the Armstrong era. DanTex Aug 2012 #15

I raced him, I wasn't close sarisataka Aug 2012 #17

Umm... the case is based on 10 or so witnesses. DanTex Aug 2012 #4

Since USADA hasn't publicly laid out its case against Armstrong brentspeak Aug 2012 #9

Yep. Mika Aug 2012 #10

Is there really a sport left? jsmirman Aug 2012 #19

1) Greg Lemond has ALWAYS hate the fact that Lance was better than him 2) He hasn't been caught truebrit71 Aug 2012 #20

But wait, some of those witnesses already testified in front of a federal grand jury, MadHound Aug 2012 #27

I always thought he was on steroids or something. ananda Aug 2012 #7

So every person who's had testicular cancers was on 'roids? MadHound Aug 2012 #25

Lance is a fucking coward. trumad Aug 2012 #16

Bollocks. truebrit71 Aug 2012 #21

I'm sure your status as a super fan will warm Lance's heart for years to come... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #22

Other than snark is there a point to your post? truebrit71 Aug 2012 #23

Really? MadHound Aug 2012 #24

The feds dropped the criminal case... DanTex Aug 2012 #26

No, that isn't why the feds dropped the case MadHound Aug 2012 #29

Umm, yes, that is why they dropped the case. DanTex Aug 2012 #32

Got a source for that? MadHound Aug 2012 #35

Seriously, your quote from the prosecutor doesn't contradict what I'm saying in any way at all. DanTex Aug 2012 #36

So in other words, no, you have bupkis, no facts whatsoever MadHound Aug 2012 #37

But you're the one trying to put words in the prosecutor's mouth. DanTex Aug 2012 #39

I'm quoting the prosecutor, MadHound Aug 2012 #40

Yes, but, again, the quote from the prosecutor doesn't support your case at all. DanTex Aug 2012 #42

First of all, MadHound Aug 2012 #43

Here: DanTex Aug 2012 #44

Well, you're finally coming up with some "facts", about time. MadHound Aug 2012 #46

Well, these facts have been known for several years. It's pretty surprising that you didn't know... DanTex Aug 2012 #47

Oh, I knew what you were referring to, MadHound Aug 2012 #48

The corticosteroid test was positive. He backdated a prescription. DanTex Aug 2012 #49

Show me what the trace amounts were MadHound Aug 2012 #50

Well, it we're going to go with what the officials say... DanTex Aug 2012 #51

+1... SidDithers Aug 2012 #28

Tell you what Sid, can we put you under years of excrutiating pressure and stress, MadHound Aug 2012 #30

Here's what we know for sure: bmbmd Aug 2012 #31

Maybe you should read this: 'The Case Against Lance Armstrong' Are_grits_groceries Aug 2012 #33

From the first paragraph of that article. MadHound Aug 2012 #34

Surely if these allegations are unfounded, Lance will be filing numerous lawsuits for slander? Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #41

I don't know if he doped or not but I do know that cali Aug 2012 #45

An amazing testament to the power of money and Lance's PR machine wtmusic Aug 2012 #52

+1 DanTex Aug 2012 #53