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41. You might like to start with the UN's figures

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 03:48 PM

Aug 2012

They are published by the UN and are also on Wiki. Then do some searching of legal sites and Swedish government figures. The citations in Wiki are fertile ground. The searches took me about 5 minutes in total. Reading and understanding them took longer, of course, but it is something that has interested me before.

British data is produced by the Justice Ministry (formerly the Home Office) and, to be frank, the UK has an abysmal record of reports, cases carried forward and successful prosecution. IIRC Jack of Kent's blog did have some details but I haven't found them recently. they may have been on his previous blog.

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Rape and the left: Assange, Galloway and the problem with women [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2012 OP

Not two women LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #1

Please get your facts straight intaglio Aug 2012 #5

Please provide a link for your facts since they don't match anything I've read on Sweden's very poor riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #24

You might like to start with the UN's figures intaglio Aug 2012 #41

Here's what the EU had to say: LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #50

What exactly did you feel that this refuted? LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #27

What you ignore is Sweden's better than average record intaglio Aug 2012 #44

Sweden has been slammed by both Amnesty International LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #49

Check the statistics for yourself n/t intaglio Aug 2012 #52

I did and they disagree with you n/t LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #53

Did you check the UN rape statistics? intaglio Aug 2012 #54

So post a link. I gave two that say otherwise. LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #55

It's a spread sheet intaglio Aug 2012 #64

And? LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #76

If the cases are being ignored in Sweden, how is an American who can't read or speak Swedish pnwmom Aug 2012 #6

I'm going to ask again. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #9

Is all criminal prosecution unjust, when we do not know in advance if the charges are true? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #17

The political aspect of the trial combined with the unlikelihood of conviction JDPriestly Aug 2012 #60

I guess date rape should never be prosecuted then. pnwmom Aug 2012 #29

Date can sometimes but not always be proved. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #59

Why isn't this date rape? What do you think date rape is? pnwmom Aug 2012 #62

According to her own statement, she never asked him to stop.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #65

Doesn't matter. He was already inside her when she woke up. That was the rape, pnwmom Aug 2012 #69

I've responded to all of your posts on this issue. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author MadrasT Aug 2012 #68

That proof comes at a trial Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #34

I would agree with you were it not for the political component. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #58

But he ISN'T facing extradition for trial MNBrewer Aug 2012 #72

No they can't, this has been gone over repeatedly Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #73

From your post MNBrewer Aug 2012 #74

It's the step just before indictment. Which corresponds to "formally charging". Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #75

and yet again, they out themselves a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #26

I've outed myself as someone who stopped regarding him as a hero pnwmom Aug 2012 #30

yup... okay... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #31

And you've outed yourself pnwmom Aug 2012 #32

gee... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #33

... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #37

How about this a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #38

Which is a bit of a sidestepping of the larger point Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #40

I guess it's going to depend a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #47

I don't exactly trust either Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #48

Thanks for going to the trouble of posting this. pnwmom Aug 2012 #42

I hereby a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #45

The stats are available even on Wikipedia LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #28

Crime statistics figures by nation are produced by the UN n/t intaglio Aug 2012 #46

Bingo. Observing all this shameless, blatant hypocrisy, and denial, is actually painful, and Zorra Aug 2012 #78

Bingo. Observing all this shameless, blatant hypocrisy, and denial, is actually painful, and Zorra Aug 2012 #79

A few of them have basically said that LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #80

Uh. See. A sex charge against a political hot potato.... aquart Aug 2012 #2

... LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #3

Please tell me why the US didn't just do the simple thing and extradite him from the UK? pnwmom Aug 2012 #7

Because he hasn't done anything that the U.S. can charge him with. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #8

Yes, exactly -- which is why Assange's claims that the US is trying to extradite him here pnwmom Aug 2012 #43

To my understanding it's not extradition that he is worried about, it's a rendition, and I Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #56

He's not the good guy either. He gets his thrills pnwmom Aug 2012 #57

I never said he was a good guy, but he is the guy in the cross hairs and he is the guy that gave Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #61

This is very shallow criticism, in my honest opinion. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #66

Releasing the unredacted files was evil. Assange is just out for the attention pnwmom Aug 2012 #70

Because if Assange goes to Sweden he can be held without bail JDPriestly Aug 2012 #11

Another day, another dollar? backscatter712 Aug 2012 #4

Thanks. I think that DU has been hijacked. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #12

good question redqueen Aug 2012 #18

kick Zorra Aug 2012 #20

It's time to end the anti-Assange diatribes. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #10

Under Swedish procedure you cannot be charged until arrested. joshcryer Aug 2012 #14

No that is not true treestar Aug 2012 #15

What I find truly astounding is people saying that of course djean111 Aug 2012 #13

simply not true treestar Aug 2012 #16

It would almost be worth the hide LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #51

A truly putrid comment. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #67

I'm a progressive, and I know what rape is. I'm sick of men with a disingenuous RW political agenda Zorra Aug 2012 #19

Agreed. Quantess Aug 2012 #21

I'm sorry to hear about your experiences. joshcryer Aug 2012 #23

You are completely misrepresenting what I posted. nt Zorra Aug 2012 #35

Which part? Quote it. joshcryer Aug 2012 #36

Lol. As you wish. Zorra Aug 2012 #77

Awesome post! You said it far better than I can. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #22

Here we go again... ljm2002 Aug 2012 #39

DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #63