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avebury

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31. It would avoid any risk

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 04:50 PM

Mar 2019

of double jeopardy for any crimes that have similar elements (Fed and State crimes).

If there are no Federal charges, States and Local jurisdictions with viable charges are free to go after Jared and members of the Trump crime family. They are not hampered by a thou shalt not indict a sitting President policy. Neither Trump nor his Rethugs Congressional aides could do squat about any convictions.

Mueller taking Federal charges off the table would not br the gift that Trump thinks it would be. It would be a never-ending death by a thousand cuts. They will forever be scrutinized.

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I think reason Mueller did not indict the orange maggots kids is because he knew the cretin would [View all] kimbutgar Mar 2019 OP

You are right Andy823 Mar 2019 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #38

It was a given that Mueller would not indict the president because of DOJ policy however lancelyons Mar 2019 #2

Plus kavanaugh, the second biggest liar on the planet, has already made it clear he would Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #3

You're referring to US v. Gamble Nevilledog Mar 2019 #17

Beat me to it - the SDNY with though jpak Mar 2019 #4

I'm not sure I get it....if the dumpster pardoned the demon spawn... AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #5

Do lemmings have IQs higher than snails? Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #8

That has what to do with the OP suggesting Mueller was held back by pardon potential? AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #14

Everything Trump does is aimed at his base... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #15

The OP made a call....not me. AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #18

If that's true then the DonJr meeting was much ado about nothing. JudyM Mar 2019 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #22

The bar is 1/2 a snail high btw OhNo-Really Mar 2019 #26

No offense, but that just doesn't make sense. Captain Stern Mar 2019 #6

Because he handed off the reason for indictments to SDNY and other states. kimbutgar Mar 2019 #7

Yet he still sought, and got, indictments for Stone and Manafort. And got Cohen to cut a deal. Captain Stern Mar 2019 #12

Right(?)....I don't get it either. Mueller doesn't give a rats ass about pardons. AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #19

please don't speak for Mueller. seriously OhNo-Really Mar 2019 #27

You think he does? He wouldn't indict because of a pardon potential? AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #32

Thank you for clarifying you point of view. OhNo-Really Mar 2019 #34

It would avoid any risk avebury Mar 2019 #31

States can still file charges against someone, regardless of what happens on the Federal level. Captain Stern Mar 2019 #37

But Red Don can give a blanket pardon for any upcoming crimes they could be charged with right? uponit7771 Mar 2019 #9

Not if they are indicted on state charges only federal can the maggot pardon kimbutgar Mar 2019 #10

Why would Mueller care about pardons though? He didn't for the other 37 indictments. AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #16

I think there's a behind the scenes strategy going on here. Baitball Blogger Mar 2019 #11

I think Barr stopped it. triron Mar 2019 #25

Very likely. Baitball Blogger Mar 2019 #28

Mueller farmed out everything he could to State jurisdictions, where Presidential pardons cant reach Hekate Mar 2019 #13

I agree. He would pardon the kids immediately. I would my kids. Buckeyeblue Mar 2019 #21

What would be the upside of that? Of the 37 indictments...there's 26 Ruskies... AncientGeezer Mar 2019 #23

I wasn't even thinking about the Russians that were indicted Buckeyeblue Mar 2019 #35

I think (hope?) enough crimes will be exposed by the report to keep dotard jr, Ivanka, and Eric.... George II Mar 2019 #24

I've been reading brilliant 8 dimensional intergalactic chess and rope-a-dope... MadDAsHell Mar 2019 #29

Mueller was wise not to indict mrsv Mar 2019 #30

You don't pardon someone ScratchCat Mar 2019 #33

Fuck that. If Jr did the crime he should be inducted. We pick and choose now? dem4decades Mar 2019 #36