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100. I defer to your superior knowledge on these subjects Mr. Drahthaar ...

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:45 AM

Mar 2019

I was unaware that we were discussing the relative utility of the Pit Bull-type as a 'Defense' dog.

I believe that yes, there are a somewhat significant population of mean, dangerous pits around ... but this is primarily because @sshole people have purposefully bred their meanest male with their meanest female to produce a dog that'll either fight to the death, or 'appeal to the tough guy who wants a tough dog' by being generally aggressive.

That said, I also don't like seeing every single pit bull-type smeared and labeled a 'potential killer' ... just because of the actions of these idiots. It's a small % of the overall total that truly 'loose cannons no matter HOW you raise them'. I'm sorry, I been around enough of 'em to know that there's PLENTY of wonderful pit-bull type dogs in this world.

Even while stipulating ... there also some real asshole individual pit bull types too. And those ones ARE dangerous. But I think its cause they were made that way, by people.

Granted, all breeds are basically made by people at this point.

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Woman dead after being attacked by her two pit bulls in animal hospital [View all] ansible Mar 2019 OP

Darwin Award! gyroscope Mar 2019 #1

Probably flvegan Mar 2019 #3

Lots of breeds suffer "those people" rainy Mar 2019 #104

I open a pit bull thread, and what do I see? Dr. Strange Mar 2019 #143

It's not constant and daily ... don't exaggerate ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #4

No exaggeration gyroscope Mar 2019 #7

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You may be next gyroscope Mar 2019 #11

From a CDC study, Mr. Know-It-All ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #22

Malamutes? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #28

Not many people have Alaskan Malamutes, whereas ... there's a whole messload of Pit Bulls? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #38

Yes, pit bull type dogs are very popular TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #73

What I consider a Malumute is a wolf cross. Scruffy1 Mar 2019 #152

I found different stats Beringia Mar 2019 #34

Interesting ... I'll look into this ... meanwhile, are you suggesting that population size of the mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #39

I think population size is relevant Beringia Mar 2019 #107

I've read that 1/2 of all 2 years and under deaths Hortensis Mar 2019 #154

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I will grant that only a small % of dog breed have the capability, physically, of doing so ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #16

Your arguement is simiiar to what pro gunners say Kaleva Mar 2019 #58

We're talking about living creatures Lordquinton Mar 2019 #109

That's mostly because every dog attack is declared from a pitbull Lordquinton Mar 2019 #33

And that includes official dog "experts," who have been shown to be unable to tblue37 Mar 2019 #102

Yep Lordquinton Mar 2019 #108

And when there is a picture of the dogs, Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #117

Yep. Pitties often take the blame for attacks by other breeds/mixed breeds. Take the test. Doremus Mar 2019 #139

You should post on the Moon Bombing for your next trick... LanternWaste Mar 2019 #155

Thank you.. whathehell Mar 2019 #30

As a breed, they are a complete genetic mess Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #59

Yes there are a lot of Pits around that were bred to be mean/fight mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #88

You certainly are painting with a broad brush. catbyte Mar 2019 #25

I'm much younger than you but I train dogs professionally Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #61

The main reason is, Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #164

And a real.protection dog is smart enough and balanced enough Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #167

It's a status thing among trumpers Soxfan58 Mar 2019 #49

Where did you get the trumper info? SharonClark Mar 2019 #55

I adopted a pit bull mix last month and she is a sweetheart! LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #51

The only large dog I will allow around children is a pure bred collie. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #165

Nice comment about a dead person, I am sure her family thinks it funny. nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #71

Classy. cwydro Mar 2019 #142

It appears that this poster has been put down. tenderfoot Mar 2019 #146

Oh boy. I wonder what made the dogs act that way. rusty quoin Mar 2019 #2

They were doing what pit bulls do gyroscope Mar 2019 #5

They were doing what an infintessimally small fraction of them do ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #6

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Like f*** I am, pal ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #14

So in your world pointers are more dangerous to people than pit bulls? gyroscope Mar 2019 #19

I know my two dogs, been around 'em 10 years ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #24

I believe you. My Pitbull/boxer is big and strong and the most gentle arthritisR_US Mar 2019 #27

I believe you, too :) mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #31

Owners train them to be mean Soxfan58 Mar 2019 #50

Some of them are also bred to be mean, by a-holes who want to create fighting dogs mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #89

That's not a full blooded pointer Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #63

Could swear I read that Pit Bulls in general are terriers, bred to kill vermin mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #79

Pit bulls we're bred to bait bulls and bears Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #92

It was my understanding that Great Danes were bred to be war dogs ProudLib72 Mar 2019 #145

Originally, they were boar and deer sight hounds Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #151

Pretty boys you have there! (I love Pitties' heads and faces.) nt tblue37 Mar 2019 #103

Kids should not be putting their faces in ANY dog's face. Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #125

Yeah, I know the worlds full of well-intentioned rules ... and I avoid following a large majority mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #127

The consequences of a disfiguring or fatal injury Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #130

Ya know, it's funny, I have one significant scar on my body ... you'll never guess why? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #132

My daughter was mad Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #135

They were probably trained in ways to attack. rusty quoin Mar 2019 #13

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I'm not arguing with you. But do you think the breed should be put down? rusty quoin Mar 2019 #17

Where did I ever say any breed of dog should be put down? gyroscope Mar 2019 #18

Oh, you're angry. You don't like Pitt bulls and don't think they should be around. rusty quoin Mar 2019 #20

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Lol, where did he go? Tipperary Mar 2019 #62

The story says these ones did attack their owner. Now what? Mariana Mar 2019 #29

I dunno about just biting, but attacking? Sure ... and yah there's some bad Pits, unfortunately ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #35

Bullshit Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #64

What's bullshit? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #82

You have to understand prey drive, fight drive, and defense drive Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #93

I defer to your superior knowledge on these subjects Mr. Drahthaar ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #100

The problem is the "prey" drive, I used a protection dogs as an example Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #106

A stray showed up on my property some months ago. cwydro Mar 2019 #144

Deleting. This posted to the wrong reply. Sorry! ms liberty Mar 2019 #153

Every pit bull is the nicest sweetest thing...until it goes on a killing rampage. Progressive Law Mar 2019 #21

When we first discussed getting a dog my husband wanted a Doberman. I told him I'm Luciferous Mar 2019 #26

I hope it's not an attack pug ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #86

Oh yeah, and her tiny little nubby teeth are terrifying lol Luciferous Mar 2019 #97

You better keep an eye on that thing. A thousand bites to the ankle can kill anyone. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #115

:) Luciferous Mar 2019 #120

I'm constantly amazed at those here who stoutly defend Pit Bulls as being PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #32

That's because ... we know them. mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #36

I'm not a fan of Pit Bulls personally Lordquinton Mar 2019 #37

Do you mind explaining the racist roots? Blue_true Mar 2019 #116

The association with drug lords Lordquinton Mar 2019 #163

Ok, got it. Thanks. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author lostnfound Mar 2019 #65

That's an odd table considering this.. honest.abe Mar 2019 #69

Surprised to see Labs on that list. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #83

Well you do need to keep in mind these are totals.. not percentages. honest.abe Mar 2019 #87

Not odd at all, if you understand numbers. Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #129

I do understand your numbers are probably bogus. honest.abe Mar 2019 #131

They're not "my" numbers - Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #133

Thats the question.. where are those numbers coming from. honest.abe Mar 2019 #134

You may have intended to question the validity of the first chart - Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #136

Its odd regardless. honest.abe Mar 2019 #137

Maybe because news knows "omg pitbull" sells uppityperson Mar 2019 #41

Pit bulls are a DU touchstone. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #54

*snort* smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #84

While watching porn I assume you mean.... EX500rider Mar 2019 #168

I love dogs but I'm with you on cats TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #75

I live in an apartment building with a dog-aggressive pit bull that wants to kill my dog. milestogo Mar 2019 #110

Do you carry bear spray with you when you leave your apartment with your dog? Blue_true Mar 2019 #118

I have bear spray but I don't always carry it. milestogo Mar 2019 #121

Blast it in the face with the bear spray once, problem solved. Blue_true Mar 2019 #123

Actually, I have read plenty of stories Texasgal Mar 2019 #141

I have a Husky/Catahoula cross that is by far and away much more The Figment Mar 2019 #40

Good luck Rorey Mar 2019 #42

Chows can be very dangerous spinbaby Mar 2019 #60

He was one of the smartest dogs I ever knew Rorey Mar 2019 #70

Any heavy dog is dangerous IrishObserver Mar 2019 #150

Oh how well I hear you!! The Figment Mar 2019 #67

We always have high hopes Rorey Mar 2019 #72

My daughter brought a dog home and promptly couldn't take care of. madinmaryland Mar 2019 #122

See # 67. Nt The Figment Mar 2019 #68

Why would you keep a dog like that? exboyfil Mar 2019 #43

I live in a very rural area, The Figment Mar 2019 #66

I was worried about how mine would be when he got old Rorey Mar 2019 #74

Hear, Hear ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #81

Why on earth would you keep a vicious dog? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #114

I'm describing pit bulls as "couch potatoes " The Figment Mar 2019 #124

Simple... The Figment Mar 2019 #126

Okay, so he'd take a bullet to protect your lady, whom he has already PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #140

My daughter scans Petfinder all the time exboyfil Mar 2019 #44

I adopted my pit bull from the Humane Society, and because LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #56

It's funny, ex-wife and I used to walk our pittie and our pointer mix, and I had to take the pointer mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #91

So if the pointer was PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #147

"Part of these idiots profile is the failure to spay or neuter their dogs." milestogo Mar 2019 #111

Pitbull owners are beyond reason IrishObserver Mar 2019 #45

Post 36 shows that you are wrong. GeorgeGist Mar 2019 #48

Check Post 34. musicblind Mar 2019 #52

No, it doesn't IrishObserver Mar 2019 #53

It's my post, and there's a URL at the bottom of the graphic. mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #94

Ignorance. Socal31 Mar 2019 #57

Why? Blue_true Mar 2019 #119

+1 Owl Mar 2019 #138

Breading people and animals to kill is inhumane anyway. nt allgood33 Mar 2019 #46

Judge Judy asks people (always the defendants) if their landlord or insurance company knows Croney Mar 2019 #47

I would not have any dog without liability insurance TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #76

As a landlord, that's a big issue with me Rorey Mar 2019 #78

Working with animals is inherently dangerous. Its a low risk, but we spin the wheel every time. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #77

We live in PG county Maryland where owning Pit Bulls are prohibited.. thank goodness! honest.abe Mar 2019 #80

I have a friend that is a vet. She would like to see a leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #85

Agree! Our no kill shelter..almost all the dogs are pit bull or a mix. No life for the dog either Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #90

I think 60 percent of the dogs in our shelter are pits leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #99

A PUTBULL thread? ismnotwasm Mar 2019 #96

But thet are such sweat dogs wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #98

They can be. Some of them are just fine. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #101

The problem is you don't know untill they kill you or someone else. wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #158

Every situation is different - Husband attacked by Pitbull after heart attack ravencalling Mar 2019 #105

Picture of woman and pit bulls Beringia Mar 2019 #112

My former vet had to have facial plastic surgery after an estsblished Dachshund attacked Karadeniz Mar 2019 #113

Do you also write novels? wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #157

I just looked at the length of my reply...that's my first novel! Karadeniz Apr 2019 #170

I'm terrified of pit bulls. underthematrix Mar 2019 #128

I am afraid of them, too. And I work with dogs leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #161

There is nothing special about pit bulls. ManiacJoe Mar 2019 #148

Again with the 'properly trained' nonsense IrishObserver Mar 2019 #149

That is complete bull shit. "Any dog" doesn't kill their owner. wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #156

What is special is the power in their jaws leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #160

Here is the best peer reviewed study I have seen comparing fatal attacks on humans by breed. honest.abe Mar 2019 #159

Screw pitbulls Blues Heron Mar 2019 #162

I do not care what people say. I would never have a Pit. BigDemVoter Mar 2019 #166