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137. Excellent gun laws? Like the one where only 1%ers get carry permits?

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:23 PM

Aug 2012

Bloomie lets Donald Trump carry a loaded gun everywhere in NYC, but not the working stiff who lives in a rough neighborhood.

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NYC shooter: I figure that it would have been worse [View all] MrScorpio Aug 2012 OP

According to Mayor Bloomberg glacierbay Aug 2012 #1

No, that's not what he said. HappyMe Aug 2012 #2

What he said was that glacierbay Aug 2012 #3

Some. Not all, is what he said, as they were taking down the gun owner. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #4

We'll know soon enough glacierbay Aug 2012 #5

We won't know for sure any time soon... CabCurious Aug 2012 #11

No he wasn't shooting civilians glacierbay Aug 2012 #15

My understanding is that he shot the boss on the sidewalk/street... CabCurious Aug 2012 #38

Not true glacierbay Aug 2012 #45

Reports indicate the initial shooting was on the sidewalk CabCurious Aug 2012 #50

Ok now I understand glacierbay Aug 2012 #53

Not to make excuses for the cops... but I don't envy them in that situation CabCurious Aug 2012 #80

Another "law abiding gun owner" - right up until the moment he wasn't. n/t. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #6

By that postulate, all men are rapist. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #9

Or, more validly.. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #67

We should all be guilty till proven innocent. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #89

You don't do analogy very well. Try again. n/t. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #125

You can't ride in on the fail boat and then tell everyone else they're "sunk". nt rDigital Aug 2012 #136

Up the creek without a paddle. nt Remmah2 Aug 2012 #143

Again, you don't do analogy very well, as noted. And you get poorer at it, apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #147

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoplophobia rDigital Aug 2012 #152

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #154

The difference is, of course, there's no National Rapist Association to support them when they do. baldguy Aug 2012 #142

Zing! That's gonna leave a mark! Spot-on reply. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #148

Could you list one kind of criminal that wasn't law abiding prior to breaking the law? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #34

George Bush? sibelian Aug 2012 #162

I didn't think you were allowed to carry in NY. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #44

You legally CAN carry in the BIg Apple ... spin Aug 2012 #159

Considering NYC's gun laws... krispos42 Aug 2012 #76

It would be interesting to know his actual residence. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #107

And if the entire country had NYC's excellent gun laws... apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #126

Excellent gun laws? Like the one where only 1%ers get carry permits? rDigital Aug 2012 #137

Yes, excellent gun laws. If NYC's gun laws were in place nationwide, hundreds of thousands apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #149

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #151

That's all yah got? A personal attack that's not even forthright, but skulks behind apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #153

*snort* krispos42 Aug 2012 #155

What nonsense, from stem to stern: apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #157

*snort* redux krispos42 Aug 2012 #158

It's not "redux" (Sic): it's the same old non-responsive jazz. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #161

*triple snort* krispos42 Aug 2012 #168

No this gun was illegal malaise Aug 2012 #144

No, this gun was perfectly "legal" when purchased in Florida. It only became illegal when apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #150

Typical anti-gun zealot rl6214 Aug 2012 #163

LOL...case in perfect point, with exactitude. You couldn't make this stuff up. apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #164

Yes you could and you normally do rl6214 Aug 2012 #169

I am a law abiding gun owner ... spin Aug 2012 #170

So let me get this straight nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #7

The average cop gets far less range time ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #10

According to the experts they're all trained. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #14

Then you need better experts. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #18

Wrong, they are considered trained nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #20

Average Joe.. SQUEE Aug 2012 #27

For the record, I am a gun owner nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #28

Not as intensly trained in the laws they are sworn to uphold glacierbay Aug 2012 #32

That is good to know, I still DO NOT WANT YOU, carrying everywhere nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #35

wow Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #39

Let me start by saying glacierbay Aug 2012 #41

Sooner or later it will become society's choice actually nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #43

What you say may be true glacierbay Aug 2012 #46

When it happens it will be sudden nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #47

I fully support comprehensive background checks glacierbay Aug 2012 #49

It will, and the other side is getting more and more organized nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #52

The other side is not getting more organized glacierbay Aug 2012 #57

It will happen and it will be sudden nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #60

That's exactly why it won't happen, suddenly or gradually glacierbay Aug 2012 #71

It will, you will see nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #77

We'll just have to agree to disagree glacierbay Aug 2012 #86

"the other side is getting more and more organized" rl6214 Aug 2012 #166

+1000 (n/t) spin Aug 2012 #172

What type of firearm do you carry when you decide to? spin Aug 2012 #171

I know I can poutshoot quite a few obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #145

Do you mean 10 years? ... spin Aug 2012 #173

"The NRA and ALEC, want everybody to pack," rl6214 Aug 2012 #165

"fellow Democrats" Skittles Aug 2012 #156

When the police, military and criminals give up their weapons then I can too. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #12

We know, precious is your friend nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #22

Most police officers are terrible shots. jeepnstein Aug 2012 #83

Oh I am possitive the how many shots were fired nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #88

Poorly trained. jeepnstein Aug 2012 #115

9 people shot in midtown crossfire... CabCurious Aug 2012 #8

Incredible that it is only nine, or ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #13

Both. CabCurious Aug 2012 #24

Can we talk about guncult violence and the NRA's ... 99Forever Aug 2012 #16

Did the NRA mail him his gun? Remmah2 Aug 2012 #17

Yes they did. 99Forever Aug 2012 #19

Wow!!! michreject Aug 2012 #21

Neither does the NRA or most gun... 99Forever Aug 2012 #25

They are en force, aren't they nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #23

They're like flies to a pile of shit. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #63

So if we're flies.... that makes you what? nt rDigital Aug 2012 #138

A shovel. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #141

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #26

another gun fetishist comes out of the wooodwork nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #29

And you want to talk about personal attacks? Marinedem Aug 2012 #37

I got a couple here nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #42

Ahhhh! The book version michreject Aug 2012 #130

Nah the HISTORIC version nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #131

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One of the arguments against personal gun ownership is that you should just call the cops 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #33

In all fairness to the cops glacierbay Aug 2012 #36

Jesus. Marinedem Aug 2012 #40

A bad job would have been that they killed the civilians glacierbay Aug 2012 #48

Agreed. redqueen Aug 2012 #59

Thank you glacierbay Aug 2012 #69

We had to destroy the village... PavePusher Aug 2012 #119

Has it been confirmed that police hit them? All i've seen is "crossfire" CabCurious Aug 2012 #51

Yup, the mayor admitted it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #55

Tragic. I guess it doesn't even matter which bullets did what... CabCurious Aug 2012 #58

They are expected to, thanks to modern medical science nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #61

The cops became "liable in some sense"? No, they didn't. The City of New York, however, AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #160

Thing is they weren't "trading fire"... rl6214 Aug 2012 #167

We 100% agree on that. glacierbay Aug 2012 #73

NYC is not an armed society. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #56

Because they would have just started firing without aiming 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #64

None. Exactly as many as I've perpetrated 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #70

Where did I claim someone knocked on my door and tried to take away my gun? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #78

What you said was nonsense 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #85

You think no one exists that is against gun ownership? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #96

Well you'll have to be more specific 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #100

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High powered weapons being defined as . . .? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #108

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #112

Classic 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #117

I know I'm not who you addressed glacierbay Aug 2012 #104

But, but, trained people... nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #65

I dispute that these were "new yorks finest" 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #68

by definition they are trained nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #74

Do you dispute the fact 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #81

Can you prove I said there was one? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #93

Yes, that is one of the arguments people have used against personal gun ownership 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #101

It was a silly statement on your part 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Aug 2012 #110

The validity of the meme is irrelevant when the issue is that you misused it 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #111

So we will not deal with the fact that these are TRAINED individuals nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #91

Ok, we've established that you will not answer my question 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #94

Here, enjoy nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #99

Per government regulations 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #102

Gee golly, I did not realize TSA was an armed agency nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #106

I never said it was 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #109

You used the TSA as an example of a federal agency nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #113

No, I used it to refute 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #116

AWWW CUTE nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #118

Some info on NYPD training and shootings... PavePusher Aug 2012 #123

And here is my confusion. SQUEE Aug 2012 #114

Shoud I add a couple things to the training nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #120

Not in the least SQUEE Aug 2012 #121

This is what many agencies use nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #122

And have for years. SQUEE Aug 2012 #124

LEOS are NOT civilian nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #127

ParaMil ..by whom? SQUEE Aug 2012 #128

Among others International Law, as well as NATIONAL LAW nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #129

I am pretty versed on my Geneva Protocols SQUEE Aug 2012 #132

I am as well, I had to enforce it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #133

And we are at a time of war? SQUEE Aug 2012 #134

Which we do not have nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #135

Militias also SQUEE Aug 2012 #139

That has to do with another factor... and that has a name, framing nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #140

If A Non-Law Enforcement Individual...... Paladin Aug 2012 #87

If a non-law enforcement individual had done this 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #95

If I was carrying in that situation glacierbay Aug 2012 #97

Right, and in many cases you would be arrested for drawing obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #146

Not all the wounds would be from bullets - lots of heavy stone and glass around that area. haele Aug 2012 #75

Good point glacierbay Aug 2012 #90