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152. The contention that Mueller could find no evidence

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:53 PM

Mar 2019

Of collusion is absurd on the face of it.

I now wonder about the integrity, honesty, and independence of Mueller. I will go to my grave believing that the fix was in from the beginning.

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Yes or No, Do you still believe that Trump conspired with Russia? [View all] kentuck Mar 2019 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwest Mar 2019 #1

Hell yes Roland99 Mar 2019 #2

me too. n/t MBS Mar 2019 #117

Yes, Trump is a traitor. trueblue2007 Mar 2019 #134

There is a non zero chance he was a useful idiot. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #3

and if he was, he is unfit. mopinko Mar 2019 #48

you are only 1/2 right Perseus Mar 2019 #70

He has plenty of help Scarsdale Mar 2019 #72

Trump is definitely not smart enough to conspire. A useful idiot who looked the other way as our Pepsidog Mar 2019 #83

What? You don't do polls? Oh, and Hell yes he did...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #4

Absolutely YES Pachamama Mar 2019 #5

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2019 #6

A poll that isn't. My poor fingers. Yes. Abso effing lutely. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2019 #7

drumpf illegally conspired with Russia to steal the election. lark Mar 2019 #8

There was no signed agreement between Trump and the Russian Government! Beausoleil Mar 2019 #9

Exactly! justie18 Mar 2019 #38

Yeah, I didn't know a conspiracy had to be fully documented, Beausoleil Mar 2019 #55

Yes Bettie Mar 2019 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author sop Mar 2019 #82

Yep. MelissaB Mar 2019 #11

Do I believe there were weekly meetings and organized conspiracy? Never did. PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #12

YES YES YES YES and bluestarone Mar 2019 #13

Of course. Bonx Mar 2019 #14

people have been convicted on far less. unblock Mar 2019 #15

Yes. Without a doubt. GoCubsGo Mar 2019 #16

110% yes... myohmy2 Mar 2019 #17

With the russian government? No. leftynyc Mar 2019 #18

William Barr's summary said the Russian government YessirAtsaFact Mar 2019 #35

Good point leftynyc Mar 2019 #45

Both the FSB & the GRU are part of the Russian Government and they worked to rig the election ... Botany Mar 2019 #63

Yep. triron Mar 2019 #202

this shanny Mar 2019 #109

YES ! dweller Mar 2019 #19

Yes. MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #20

Did he directly do it to undermine the integrity of the election? Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #21

You hit the nail right on the head, FT65. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #215

Yes he did. lpbk2713 Mar 2019 #22

He willingly accepted their offer. Polly Hennessey Mar 2019 #23

With all that was happening then, yes rockfordfile Mar 2019 #24

Hell yes. Nt Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #25

YES !!! and Barr report only talked about Russian Government uponit7771 Mar 2019 #26

Bingo louis c Mar 2019 #74

No doubt about it. Butterflylady Mar 2019 #27

Absolutely. But, is there a transcript, tape, email, text that has him saying "Russia, help me win" Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #28

Yes there is a video: "Russia if you are listening..." Doodley Mar 2019 #42

True dat. Yet people already know about that - and they don't give a shit. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #52

Exactly. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #208

+1 ck4829 Mar 2019 #224

trump is putin's puppet Gothmog Mar 2019 #29

Of course he did Leith Mar 2019 #30

Perhaps he was too dumb to conspire and Russia too smart to conspire with him. Sneederbunk Mar 2019 #31

Yes. Delphinus Mar 2019 #32

Does this feel like a coup? Hell yeah! democratisphere Mar 2019 #33

Absofuckinglutely Celerity Mar 2019 #34

Wow! I had not seen that one. Yikes! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2019 #220

I think there is plenty of evidence Trump conspired with Russia Jarqui Mar 2019 #36

Yes, I do. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #37

100% Hell Yes! djacq Mar 2019 #39

yes nt yaesu Mar 2019 #40

Yes,yes,a thousand times yes. old guy Mar 2019 #41

Absolutely. That being said I think Bannon, Stone, Manafort are too savvy to outright break the law mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #43

He directly asked Russia to release Hillary Clinton's emails. It was collusion, out in the open. Doodley Mar 2019 #44

We need someone to leak the full Mueller report NOW. Lonestarblue Mar 2019 #46

Yes. He may have agreed personally well before he announced Hortensis Mar 2019 #47

Yes Takket Mar 2019 #49

Yes Mickju Mar 2019 #50

I have no reason not to believe it. Too much care has been taken to cover it up. ooky Mar 2019 #51

No doubt redstateblues Mar 2019 #53

Yes...but it's a difficult thing to prove... ewagner Mar 2019 #54

especially if he (Mueller) was limited to collusion DURING the election Locrian Mar 2019 #58

Yup... B Stieg Mar 2019 #56

Mueller the traitor? Vdizzle Mar 2019 #200

Why not? B Stieg Mar 2019 #214

no, because i never did. as in being able to prove trump directly Kurt V. Mar 2019 #57

Helsinki yes he conspired with Russia. IMHO IADEMO2004 Mar 2019 #59

Yep ck4829 Mar 2019 #225

Yes! Sunsky Mar 2019 #60

Yes! 100% certain. Greybnk48 Mar 2019 #61

Yes, certainly Glorfindel Mar 2019 #62

You know it. Anyone who can actually think for themselves knows it. KPN Mar 2019 #64

Totally and unequivocally. Trump aided and abetted a hostile foreign power that would help him win ancianita Mar 2019 #65

He's been doing it on TV since 2016. dchill Mar 2019 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Mar 2019 #67

yep. triron Mar 2019 #68

Yes Generic Other Mar 2019 #69

YES!!👏 wendyb Mar 2019 #71

Sorta zipplewrath Mar 2019 #73

That's kind of where I am Puzzledtraveller Mar 2019 #196

I absolutely believe he colluded with Russia. Texin Mar 2019 #75

BIG.FUCKING.TIME. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2019 #76

There is no doubt in my mind The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #77

I believe he is a pawn of the Russians...Putin's puppet or pawn. nt allgood33 Mar 2019 #78

Yes. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #79

Of course. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2019 #80

What happened and what you can prove are not always the same. Joe941 Mar 2019 #81

Without doubt, hell yes! nightwing1240 Mar 2019 #84

Yes. dmr Mar 2019 #85

YES!!!!!! gopiscrap Mar 2019 #86

I think he's still conspiring and not just with Russia. Follow the money to Trump projects. Vinca Mar 2019 #87

45 is a lying, traitorous, sack of $hit. mnhtnbb Mar 2019 #88

Need the Evidence that is in the Mueller Report McKim Mar 2019 #89

Yes Timmygoat Mar 2019 #92

Do bears poop in the woods? Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #90

You better believe it! il_lilac Mar 2019 #91

yes. barbtries Mar 2019 #93

thank you for calling it the barr report. we do not know what is in the Mueller report, niyad Mar 2019 #94

He's either a Russian asset or a Russian agent...a distinction w/o a difference IMO. rainin Mar 2019 #95

Well, lillypaddle Mar 2019 #96

Yes, the few "official" contacts confirmed mutual agreement bigbrother05 Mar 2019 #97

yes k & r n/t prairierose Mar 2019 #98

Yes. Trump was and continues to be a Russian asset. nt SunSeeker Mar 2019 #99

Absolutely Niagara Mar 2019 #100

He certainly did Pepsidog Mar 2019 #101

Indubitably geardaddy Mar 2019 #102

It was Trump/Putin in 2016 at140 Mar 2019 #103

He absolutely did jmowreader Mar 2019 #104

Yes. What you said mtngirl47 Mar 2019 #105

Yes, all evidence points to conspiracy. CharleyDog Mar 2019 #106

Even if all the evidence is circumstantial, it is very strong... kentuck Mar 2019 #111

What you said FakeNoose Mar 2019 #175

Of Course! DarthDem Mar 2019 #107

Absolutely. Different Drummer Mar 2019 #108

YES, ABSOLUTELY!!! pazzyanne Mar 2019 #110

Absolutely, I would bet my life on it. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #112

Yes and yes again WestCoastDem42 Mar 2019 #113

Yes, it's beyond obvious Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #114

Define "conspired" residentcynic Mar 2019 #115

I think it's a given that Trump & family knew Russia was working on winning the election for him. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #122

No argument from me residentcynic Mar 2019 #123

personally, I don't know... yuiyoshida Mar 2019 #116

Yes, and I'm not moving on until I have answers Ponietz Mar 2019 #118

Yes X 1000 sellitman Mar 2019 #119

Yes. DinahMoeHum Mar 2019 #120

Yes! Emphatically yes! llmart Mar 2019 #121

I don't believe it, I KNOW it (just like I knew the Iraq WMD was a lie). I KNOW things. joanbarnes Mar 2019 #124

Yes, I believe he did lunamagica Mar 2019 #125

Trump himself? No. Someone(s) in his campaign, and possibly family? Yes. jpljr77 Mar 2019 #126

Of course he did. He's a criminal in every aspect of his life. onecaliberal Mar 2019 #127

Yes, pretty obvious to me. walkingman Mar 2019 #128

Yes ananda Mar 2019 #129

Yes bighart Mar 2019 #130

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ElementaryPenguin Mar 2019 #131

Does a Russian bear shit in the woods? n/t shanti Mar 2019 #132

Yes. Period. Full stop. MaeScott Mar 2019 #133

YES!!!! colsohlibgal Mar 2019 #135

Yes Runningdawg Mar 2019 #136

Yes. I have NO DOUBTS whatsoever. Silver Gaia Mar 2019 #137

yes proud patriot Mar 2019 #138

I have no fucking doubt that Pussy Grabber conspired with and got pissed on by russians. BigDemVoter Mar 2019 #139

Yes because... jimlup Mar 2019 #140

Abso effin' lutely! So does Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan. JAD Mar 2019 #141

Yes jeaps Mar 2019 #142

Yes Meowmee Mar 2019 #143

Yes, he cooperated. happy feet Mar 2019 #144

As I have always believed, Progressive Jones Mar 2019 #145

Yes. CaptainTruth Mar 2019 #146

Yes cp Mar 2019 #147

Does the Pope use the porcelain in the Vatican? marble falls Mar 2019 #148

I think he used "plausible deniability" like many in power do when something shady benefits him. ehrnst Mar 2019 #149

++++ sheshe2 Mar 2019 #157

I agree mcar Mar 2019 #164

That is exactly how the mafia operated BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #167

+1 nt brer cat Mar 2019 #197

He's a half-witting Russian asset. He believes what Vlad tells him. Hassler Mar 2019 #150

Yes. tosh Mar 2019 #151

The contention that Mueller could find no evidence Moral Compass Mar 2019 #152

No doubt sfwriter Mar 2019 #153

I never did. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2019 #154

Of course he did. wendyb-NC Mar 2019 #155

We will not be gaslighted by all that we read and saw these last several years. Efilroft Sul Mar 2019 #156

Yes, and likely followed the mafia model of hands off, with no electronic trail. He got all his OnDoutside Mar 2019 #158

YES ... definitely CatMor Mar 2019 #159

NO underpants Mar 2019 #160

Yes. underthematrix Mar 2019 #161

Is this a trick question? Ferrets are Cool Mar 2019 #162

Of course he did. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2019 #163

Yes. sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #165

Ab-so-lutey!!! samplegirl Mar 2019 #166

yes indeed dawn5651 Mar 2019 #168

Yes. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #169

No question about it - YES! n/t solara Mar 2019 #170

yep 0rganism Mar 2019 #171

Do Trump supporters shit in the woods? AdamGG Mar 2019 #172

Of course. paleotn Mar 2019 #173

I don't think, I know. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #174

Yes Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #176

I think he conspired with Russians. shanny Mar 2019 #177

Yes leanforward Mar 2019 #178

Yes yes a thousand times yes! n/t coeur_de_lion Mar 2019 #179

Yes, yes,yes,yes! bitterross Mar 2019 #180

Yes. nt dflprincess Mar 2019 #181

Duh. Amaryllis Mar 2019 #182

There is no doubt in my mind, if he didn't why has so many people lied doc03 Mar 2019 #183

Yes. stillcool Mar 2019 #184

This is about as predictable as taking a poll of biologists as to whether evolution is true... regnaD kciN Mar 2019 #185

Yes. Mersky Mar 2019 #186

You have to ask? czarjak Mar 2019 #187

Yes Loryn Mar 2019 #188

It's right there in front of us WyLoochka Mar 2019 #189

Oh hell yes...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2019 #190

Yes. PinkTiger Mar 2019 #191

Definitely. broiles Mar 2019 #192

Yes, he has no choice. GeorgeGist Mar 2019 #193

Yes Luciferous Mar 2019 #194

Yup Blue Owl Mar 2019 #195

In plain sight. And still ongoing. n/t Mister Ed Mar 2019 #198

Da. tclambert Mar 2019 #199

Da. Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #201

F%CK YES! n/t Richard D Mar 2019 #203

of course TalenaGor Mar 2019 #204

Yes LW1977 Mar 2019 #205

Fucking-hell YES he conspired. The S.O.B. meet with Putin ALONE, behind closed doors. VOX Mar 2019 #206

He did it in full view of the public. No one gets a pass for "joking" here. NCLefty Mar 2019 #207

At the VERY LEAST with the oligarchy. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #209

F...in A diddly!!! Oldtimeralso Mar 2019 #210

Yes! "Russia, if you're listening..." How many times have we seen that??! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #211

yes n/t bobGandolf Mar 2019 #212

I mean, is being a paid employee considered conspiring? quakerboy Mar 2019 #213

Any person who doesn't know Aussie105 Mar 2019 #216

He's a traitor. EndGOPPropaganda Mar 2019 #217

YES. BlueMTexpat Mar 2019 #218

No doubt in my mind, and Barr is a partisan liar. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2019 #219

What do you think? nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #221

Fuck yeah. argyl Mar 2019 #222

Yes ck4829 Mar 2019 #223

Obviously YES and rump's team made sure to leak everything out in drips so it would not be UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #226

Personally, I believe he did and he did through others and knew about it. Thomas Hurt Mar 2019 #227

I think he wanted to Kali Mar 2019 #228

Absolutely yes. nt tblue37 Mar 2019 #229

Yes. It's obvious from his public actions and utterances. northoftheborder Mar 2019 #230

And this is what's going on with global warming and Hillary on the other side... Terry_M Mar 2019 #231

yes Demovictory9 Mar 2019 #232

Of course. I knew something was wrong the night he won fescuerescue Apr 2019 #233