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Summer Hathaway

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255. "It is this spirit of earnest honesty, of tireless striving ...
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 03:49 AM
Aug 2012
... that I shall always remember and treasure."

So beautifully put.

There are many people out there that long for that sense of tireless trying - and would gladly be a part of it.

It is unfortunate that Occupy proved less than worthy in their actions than its adherents proved worthy in their ideals, and their fervor in upholding them.

But, as I said, perhaps the Phoenix will rise from the ashes - and a new day will dawn, a day of earnest honesty.

I thank you for sharing your thoughts and your perspective - it has been a learning experience of note that I, too, will always remember and treasure.

May peace be with you, and follow you in all that you do.

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OWS lost a focused message and thus lost steam CabCurious Aug 2012 #1
^^ THIS ^^ longship Aug 2012 #40
Quoting you: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #60
He is correct, except for the suggestion OWS failed. It DID change the national dialog. CabCurious Aug 2012 #181
but you have done so much right? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #228
"It DID change the national dialog." is what i said... CabCurious Aug 2012 #247
I love what I just read, I'm lost for words, I have been involved with occupy since the beginning juxtaposed Aug 2012 #64
It would have been nice if Occupy Wall Street had actually focussed on Wall Street. longship Aug 2012 #85
"Don't get me wrong, I support the cause." Yes, that is abundantly clear. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #87
How many changes has OWS accomplished? longship Aug 2012 #95
"How many changes has OWS accomplished? None! Zero! Nada!" Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #104
Apparently you like to parrot me rather than make a rational argument. longship Aug 2012 #118
"I won't say what I really think about Occupy. It's sufficient that their harm is at an end." -You. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #119
Well when nothing they did made a difference... longship Aug 2012 #137
I agree. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #123
Taking over the democratic party will do nothing to end Citizens United. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #126
You are wrong there. Letting a Democratic President pick another 1-3 Supreme Court justices might. FSogol Aug 2012 #150
Well, I wouldn't go that far, but thank you anyway. longship Aug 2012 #131
Dig deeper tama Aug 2012 #140
Citizen's United was decided 5-4 by the Court... brooklynite Aug 2012 #164
Sure, there are differences nt tama Aug 2012 #194
why don't you do something instead of bitch about those who are? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #230
All our grievances are connected. That has always been the point from day one. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #101
The bankers on Wall Street do not make policy. longship Aug 2012 #122
You're serious? Seriously? Seriously seriously? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #129
I know the story, my friend. longship Aug 2012 #136
ODC tama Aug 2012 #143
Actually that be the Declaration... the constitution is clear on what to do nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #171
Yeah, right. But their money makes policy and we suffer for it. Get Wall Street, the NRA, and nanabugg Aug 2012 #141
"the bankers on Wall Street do not make policy" BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #163
Son you really must have a very good imagination nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #175
+1000 n/t 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #227
"youth hostiles" HCE SuiGeneris Aug 2012 #65
I hope your credibility is never dependent on a typo and iPhone correction. longship Aug 2012 #90
No, they don't regulate wall street. Wall street and banks took $16 trillion from the government. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #130
Well, my point stands. longship Aug 2012 #133
When a Congressperson is in danger of losing their seat, they suddenly find a reason to listen to MADem Aug 2012 #261
I couldn't have said that better. longship Aug 2012 #263
People hate Congress, as a rule, but for some odd reason most of them don't include "their" rep! MADem Aug 2012 #264
Why expect anything else tama Aug 2012 #146
Well, I don't see any policy changes from OWS. longship Aug 2012 #162
It's gradual and wavy tama Aug 2012 #191
Policy changes is a lofty expectation. They DID change the national dialog CabCurious Aug 2012 #192
Agreed. They did that in spades. longship Aug 2012 #205
well too bad they didn't get help from the likes of you. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #68
Damn hippie freaks. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #127
That's exactly how... greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #144
Right on all accounts, although I DON'T think they failed... CabCurious Aug 2012 #180
Agreed! longship Aug 2012 #196
I remain convinced camping is the right thing to do to keep it from being an elitist middle-class patrice Aug 2012 #184
Fair cynicism, however... that is mostly what it was anyways CabCurious Aug 2012 #188
Not new problems tama Aug 2012 #197
Agreed... CabCurious Aug 2012 #248
The way I see it tama Aug 2012 #252
I generally agree... but there IS such a thing as losing the message CabCurious Aug 2012 #262
Translation: It wasn't "interesting" enough for TV watching boobs. Bonobo Aug 2012 #72
No, quite the opposite CabCurious Aug 2012 #179
This didn't help FrodosPet Aug 2012 #266
"They didn't even have time to develop a middle class for this new society to crush." CabCurious Aug 2012 #268
We will see next week in Tampa. Dkc05 Aug 2012 #2
I don't think they'll be there. I think their show of force will be reserved for the Democrats in patrice Aug 2012 #9
Hmmm....so they're getting RNC funding, then? nt MADem Aug 2012 #107
It would be stupid not to recognize that possibility, especially with Libertarians & Tea Party patrice Aug 2012 #182
Nothing would surprise me, seriously. MADem Aug 2012 #209
Wonder how many more years/decades/centuries it will take for the left to realize stevenleser Aug 2012 #166
1+++++++++ just look at our whole history. patrice Aug 2012 #183
What is OWS? ann--- Aug 2012 #3
Occupy Wall Street movement. amerikat Aug 2012 #5
Oops, I guess they were serious, I thought it was sarcasm at first. I had someone once ask RKP5637 Aug 2012 #13
Not all of us can easily connect acronyms tama Aug 2012 #198
There should have been a leader riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #4
Yep, I think it's really hard to focus a movement across a country this size without an RKP5637 Aug 2012 #8
I think it is possible that most of them had no real idea how to do "horizontal empowerment". They patrice Aug 2012 #16
Yep, the paradigm "of division and factionalism and the habits of thought and emotion acquired RKP5637 Aug 2012 #17
Chicago Occupy gets it Beautifully! Ours suffered also from the fact that we were trying to do all patrice Aug 2012 #22
Respect to Occupy Chicago! n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #45
There's also a really awesome occupy in Tulsa, OK. I was with them when they ran a GA in front of patrice Aug 2012 #48
Brilliant :) Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #51
Yep. And young too! We talked GA stuff on the march to and from Koch HQ. patrice Aug 2012 #53
Taking it directly to the Kochs. I love it. Voting just doesn't get this sort of thing done! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #80
One of the cool things about that Tulsa group is that it included 3-4 engineers and I don't mean patrice Aug 2012 #173
without Occupy, we would not be seeing the changes we are 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #50
Agree! patrice Aug 2012 #55
Same old pattern Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #71
yes you are right. It was you that made things change 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #73
I didn't change a god-damned thing Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #77
snort 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #79
Somehow I suspected Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #83
snort 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #86
Again the pattern is followed with precision Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #89
I'd like to quote from my Facebook friend Michael Caigoy: coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #92
Well ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #97
He's saying that Occupy opened his eyes, something that *obviously* has coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #99
I, like millions of people the world over, Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #103
In August of 2011, the dominant theme in political conversation in this country was coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #117
I am very happy Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #220
Yours is a great response and I found myself agreeing with much of it. When I read coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #222
Yes, Occupy went national - and very quickly. Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #250
Another truly awesome post and one I hope all of DU gets a chance to read. I remember coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #253
"It is this spirit of earnest honesty, of tireless striving ... Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #255
How? tama Aug 2012 #254
And you have taken Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #256
Politics tama Aug 2012 #257
big fucking coincidence isn't it? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #236
The sad thing is Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #245
yes and the fact that EVERYONE is talking about 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #246
EVERYONE is talking about it? Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #249
Similar to Wikileaks treestar Aug 2012 #218
I've seen no evidence that occupy produced any fear at all in the 1 percent RZM Aug 2012 #81
you must have missed the cops beating the fuck out of peaceful 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #82
Your evidence is police conduct? RZM Aug 2012 #84
The cops weren't taking money from "the banks." They were taking it from the taxpayers. MADem Aug 2012 #109
no, I believe it was BOA that gave the NYPD a "donation" 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #138
Were they paying for specific security detail? That's a different thing. However, the overtime MADem Aug 2012 #160
No, some sort of donation, I think. No not to widows fund. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #172
Donations are not overtime salaries, though. The taxpayers pay for the police at demos. nt MADem Aug 2012 #174
Many of us tama Aug 2012 #199
My impression of the Chicago Occupy is that those are people who actually LIVE horizontally. patrice Aug 2012 #31
Interesting!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #34
Careful now zappaman Aug 2012 #46
Look I am as liberal progressive as they come riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #148
I noticed a few people disappeared back then. Wondered where you all got off to. jtuck004 Aug 2012 #265
No regrets...at all riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #267
I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm glad you were in a place where profiteering jtuck004 Aug 2012 #269
A leader would have been immediately jailed. Plus, you miss the most important point of the movement Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #41
Thank you, That's the nail on the head juxtaposed Aug 2012 #70
What power? In the hands of Which people? Speck Tater Aug 2012 #106
All power to all people! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #114
Which part of the power do you get and which part do I get? Speck Tater Aug 2012 #115
You know nothing about the General Assembly or horizontal democracy Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #125
GAs works on a small, local scale. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #165
Scale point is fair point tama Aug 2012 #204
If the leader of a mass movement is ever jailed the movement collapses 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #152
There was no violence from occupy only from the police , stop watching fox news juxtaposed Aug 2012 #67
I don't think it's realistic... Ben_Caxton Aug 2012 #134
Ah yes, a leader that could be assassinated... Zalatix Aug 2012 #128
They are still camped out in Tallahassee Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #6
No, you're not serious ... n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #11
It's just the Rainbow People left now. Nt DevonRex Aug 2012 #155
Good People them tama Aug 2012 #206
Yes, but new info this AM Fla_Democrat Aug 2012 #219
Wow, they've been there a long time? n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #221
Assange is innocent!! randome Aug 2012 #7
LOL RKP5637 Aug 2012 #10
you just go around looking for shit to stir? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #76
OWS is alive and well and getting no press at all. amerikat Aug 2012 #12
will there be activity in Tampa Dkc05 Aug 2012 #14
Seems they are there. amerikat Aug 2012 #26
Someone named Isaac is supposedly gonna dump a load of shit on 'em. nt MADem Aug 2012 #178
Thanks for the link!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #15
Here's another link to an OWS daily newspaper ---> Petrushka Aug 2012 #52
Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #161
No AstroTurf money behind them. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #18
Excellent point!!! And no corporate media pushing them 7x24 in a favorable light. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #19
Yep. A handful of middle aged to elderly racists get together and out come the cameras. onehandle Aug 2012 #21
It's really a sad commentary about what's going on in the US. The shaping of the minds of RKP5637 Aug 2012 #30
That "elderly" means that they have deep grassroots. Here's the research on that: patrice Aug 2012 #56
To me, the teabaggers are the KKK without sheets, at least that's how it feels to me. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #168
There are experts on that subject who would likely agree with you. There's either a direct patrice Aug 2012 #169
Research link here on that topic. Would also be useful for looking at HAVA 2002. patrice Aug 2012 #185
Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #186
It'd also be fun to look for co-relations between that data & Farm Subsidies. Have you seen the EWG patrice Aug 2012 #200
Watch the conventions. WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #20
Yep, could be. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #23
I will. And if they're focused far more on the dems than the repubs, I'll notice that too. cali Aug 2012 #24
If you do FaceBook, friend them there and see what you think. nt patrice Aug 2012 #35
Bingo nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #28
In Minneapolis, they have decided to focus on helping homeowners Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #25
Yep, I was just thinking a couple of minutes ago, they get the ultimate propaganda, ignored. A RKP5637 Aug 2012 #32
OccupyMN kick ASS and have my eternal love! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #42
+1 limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #88
The media is also ignoring Habitat for Humanity. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #111
That's an interesting opinion. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #124
The foreclosure resistance program is something NEW Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #149
yep limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #170
What else is new? tama Aug 2012 #207
Phase two nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #27
That, I think, on a large scale could be very powerful, "Plenty of city council meetings though, and RKP5637 Aug 2012 #33
They should be out in state capitols occupying voting rights kimbutgar Aug 2012 #29
yes 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #225
It's been hot and nobody has done the water arrangements snooper2 Aug 2012 #36
Occupying the water supply will come soon as climate change continues Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #43
Still here and working all over the nation, but the blackout is pretty effective. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #37
Anarchists have trouble sticking with group activities frazzled Aug 2012 #38
Wrong tama Aug 2012 #210
If you want OWS news, check OWS media channels. You'll find none in the MSM. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #39
I used to follow OWS religiously. I was even in denial during their decline... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #44
If Occupy is dead, who are Tampa police expecting at the RNC? Tea partiers? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #49
Political conventions attract protestors of all kinds jberryhill Aug 2012 #57
Not at all? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #58
"shout down the monsters at each and every turn" jberryhill Aug 2012 #61
Let's make that opinion very clear. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #66
Normal attention span problems tama Aug 2012 #211
Ah.... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #215
I take this chance tama Aug 2012 #216
I've been with occupy since oct6-11 in tampa we are here and running support for the RnC protests juxtaposed Aug 2012 #74
Thank you! Kick some ass and please post livestream links here on DU! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #78
Occupy just helped expose the use of militarized SWAT teams in Anaheim Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #47
That "grenade launcher" is a tear gas gun jberryhill Aug 2012 #59
Yes, a military-grade weapon turned against peaceful protesters. Don't overlook that Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #62
No, a plain old tear gas gun jberryhill Aug 2012 #63
It is a military grenade launcher which can also be used for tear gas canisters, missing entirely Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #75
I agree, police should only use civilian tear gas launchers! Robb Aug 2012 #208
People arguing for the police state...when they show up with military weapons at your peaceful party Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #214
california uber alles frylock Aug 2012 #69
To me, this is the reason it didn't catch fire Blecht Aug 2012 #203
S17 is just a month away juxtaposed Aug 2012 #54
Never once did I pitch a tent or carry a sign mick063 Aug 2012 #91
Another thing the press didn't cover was the number of ordinary people Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #94
Thanks for this, quite interesting!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #135
Excellent post deutsey Aug 2012 #145
These folks in MN had a huge summer fighting unfair home foreclosures limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #93
I never saw them as a liberal entity let alone sustainable. vaberella Aug 2012 #96
They did their best against becoming tama Aug 2012 #213
Well, I did have high hopes for OWS initially. When it started, I genuinely thought Proles Aug 2012 #98
Okay... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #100
Perfect deutsey Aug 2012 #147
They had no leadership and it showed. MADem Aug 2012 #110
Good summary IMO, especially about teabaggers political affiliation versus OWS. I think it's RKP5637 Aug 2012 #158
"occupy" became another synonym for "protest" Speck Tater Aug 2012 #102
As someone plugged into Occupy media channels, your report of our demise is amusing. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #108
I don't doubt that the true believers are all talking to each other. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #112
"The world" is not the consensus reality of MSM-driven propaganda. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #132
"Join the 99%" but OWS is the 1/2% of the 99%. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #167
No leadership, no direction. MADem Aug 2012 #105
You're right, of course. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #113
It was anarchist initiative tama Aug 2012 #193
Would you be so kind as to rephrase that sentence without the oatmeal and the "who so" in order MADem Aug 2012 #202
Nah tama Aug 2012 #212
Ha ha! The MA is Massachusetts!! MADem Aug 2012 #223
perhaps if you had spent time working with them 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #226
Oh please, don't be childish. MADem Aug 2012 #234
thanks for all u do 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #235
I do it because people don't take care of their grandparents and parents. MADem Aug 2012 #238
lol. I took care of my mother til the day she died. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #239
I'll lecture all I want--if people DID take care of their aged and disabled relatives, I'd have MADem Aug 2012 #240
good on u to do that for free. 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #243
suggestion to OWS chknltl Aug 2012 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author WCGreen Aug 2012 #120
OWS was just the first beat of a big drum Berlum Aug 2012 #121
It certainly did identify a major irritation with "the system" which has clearly not been healed by RKP5637 Aug 2012 #157
Proving once again that if you have no focus you can not survive 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #139
And when this happens, no focused message and org., IMO, your foes will define your RKP5637 Aug 2012 #154
OWS? I am still waiting for "Anonymous", to come and save me NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #142
What is the motto? Be Very Afraid? We are legion? Expect us? MADem Aug 2012 #177
You're talking about it 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #151
It was a lost cause to begin with. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #153
Excellent analysis and summary! The right to openly protest in the US to create change is RKP5637 Aug 2012 #156
We have seen our freedoms stripped and turned over to corporations. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #237
I thought it was a GREAT cause and a great idea--the execution sucked shit, though. MADem Aug 2012 #241
"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." raouldukelives Aug 2012 #259
I like wind and solar. It works. The trick is to make it accessible. MADem Aug 2012 #260
I am sure there are people who thought the Seneca Falls Convention was an epic fail too. The Midway Rebel Aug 2012 #159
Occupy SF is supposed to be having a march this weekend arcane1 Aug 2012 #176
Women are marching in our city this weekend. We're also having a Hemp Festival. I think there patrice Aug 2012 #189
Shhhh...they need to believe OWS is dead and has had zero effect... Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #195
getting ready..i think..the time to come out is very near.. xiamiam Aug 2012 #187
I hope so! I think there could be a lot of momentum. As some pointed out in this thread there are RKP5637 Aug 2012 #190
OWS lost me when they started calling for student loan forgiveness taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #201
How old are you? nt tama Aug 2012 #217
34 taught_me_patience Aug 2012 #224
Seems like it... Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #229
Maybe as the elections approach there will be more ... n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #233
Its main meme of "the 1% vs the 99%" went mainstream worldwide CJCRANE Aug 2012 #231
Yep, OWS certainly did bring up "the 1% vs the 99%." As far as I know with OWS was the first RKP5637 Aug 2012 #232
OWS is doing something nearly every week across the country. mmonk Aug 2012 #242
Good! OWS is one hope I have for the future. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #244
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Aug 2012 #251
Attention and focus tama Aug 2012 #258
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