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Bernardo de La Paz

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18. Yes, I think it is rather like that. Biden has had a wake-up call to be more aware.

Fri Apr 5, 2019, 03:40 PM

Apr 2019

A VP or a Senator or a 1%er will automatically have a power upper hand above and beyond the pre-supposed level playing field politics and citizenship are supposed to be. Even if one feels they are on the same side.

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Why do people at an extreme end of a spectrum of social behavior.... [View all] LAS14 Apr 2019 OP

I'm pretty introverted and not a fan of being touched qazplm135 Apr 2019 #1

Then there is the etiquette of elevators, weddings, funerals . . . empedocles Apr 2019 #36

Touch is a culturally-linked phenomenon. While norms may change (or be changing) in hlthe2b Apr 2019 #2

So Biden needs to just stick out a hand for a shake? shanny Apr 2019 #3

If someone is uncomfortable with being touched, they need to speak up Siwsan Apr 2019 #4

If "no means no", the "no" needs to be said. "No means no" fails if "no" is never said". But, ... Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #7

Lack of non-consent does not equal consent. nt Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #10

I am sure I'm not alone in not being able to read someone's mind Siwsan Apr 2019 #11

I edited my OP to add: LAS14 Apr 2019 #12

The power differential... tonedevil Apr 2019 #14

Yes, I think it is rather like that. Biden has had a wake-up call to be more aware. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #18

We have to get past that treestar Apr 2019 #57

LMAO at "I'm fed up with the cry of 'ask permission to invade space.'" WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #5

Touch me without my permission and see what happens. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #6

Violence? What will happen? How big is your space? How brittle is it (cross one inch game over?) Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #8

Pull me in for a hug without my consent, I will push you on your ass. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #9

Dude, wow. Tipperary Apr 2019 #15

Are you on the spectrum? tonedevil Apr 2019 #17

Responding with violence and bragging about it on the internet... Tipperary Apr 2019 #21

You really don't understand... tonedevil Apr 2019 #22

You seem kind of hostile too. Tipperary Apr 2019 #23

Yes I am hostile... tonedevil Apr 2019 #26

Well you have a nice day now. Tipperary Apr 2019 #28

They have to be taught to speak up about it treestar Apr 2019 #60

Do you realize that "on the spectrum" refers to the autism spectrum? People on the tblue37 Apr 2019 #27

Yes, I most certainly do. Tipperary Apr 2019 #29

Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #37

I need to dust those off.. tonedevil Apr 2019 #39

Or perhaps not... Tipperary Apr 2019 #42

Lol. Bless your heart. Tipperary Apr 2019 #38

Or as grandma said, sfwriter Apr 2019 #40

See how beating on this dead horse makes nice people be nasty to each other? dawg day Apr 2019 #79

Pulling me in for a hug is just as uncomfortable as being punched. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #46

I'm with you... tonedevil Apr 2019 #16

No one claims they are owed treestar Apr 2019 #61

Most definitions of "personal space" extend out from the body. Touching is far within personal space Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #41

Good post. Tipperary Apr 2019 #43

Will you become violent Bettie Apr 2019 #44

Because that's totally what i said. nt Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #47

If someone ACCIDENTLY touches you... MicaelS Apr 2019 #45

If someone pulls me in for a hug and I push them down, Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #48

I will go out on a limb and guess this is not a frequent problem for you. Tipperary Apr 2019 #53

Most people get it when they go for a hug and Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #54

Go back and reread my post. MicaelS Apr 2019 #64

No they are not, they are just saying YOU speak up about it treestar Apr 2019 #59

I bet over the last year you've been touched lots of times and didn't even notice, or... LAS14 Apr 2019 #13

See Dr. H in post 9. That's the autism spectrum. marylandblue Apr 2019 #19

And so we organize society as if everyone had autism of some degree? nt LAS14 Apr 2019 #24

No, we just be more sensitive to individual differences. marylandblue Apr 2019 #32

1 in 59 persons. Yes. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Apr 2019 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #77

Nobody ever sniffed my hair or kissed the back of my head, sfwriter Apr 2019 #35

I always notice, usually with a deep cringe and gag response. hunter Apr 2019 #51

Very much agreed. nt Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #55

But if it doesn't bother most people than I would say the onus is on you to speak up and say hey UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #70

They're not making the rules, rather over-reflecting Hortensis Apr 2019 #20

So you make the rules? GeorgeGist Apr 2019 #25

They did not say that treestar Apr 2019 #62

every thread about some societal shift about to take place for *touching* is irrational. jeez Kurt V. Apr 2019 #30

This next generation strikes me a little weird fescuerescue Apr 2019 #33

Touching is fine. Calling is fine. hunter Apr 2019 #65

Depends on who the subject is fescuerescue Apr 2019 #71

WTH? sfwriter Apr 2019 #34

Thank you. nt Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2019 #50

Do you think that power differential doesn't come into play when the 2nd most powerful man Autumn Apr 2019 #52

Thank you... sfwriter Apr 2019 #66

Thank you, Autumn. I'm not averse to being touched/hugged etc., but I have to personally Nay Apr 2019 #67

You are so right on the 'power differential'. That's what most people ignore. Autumn Apr 2019 #68

Yes, exactly this. Thanks for posting this -- it's exactly how I feel about all this 'innocent' Nay Apr 2019 #69

Right on. 58Sunliner Apr 2019 #81

K&R treestar Apr 2019 #56

I Know, chalk up another one for #MeToo unintended consequences njhoneybadger Apr 2019 #58

Or, loyalsister Apr 2019 #63

You said you're not talking about work-places. But they WERE in a work place. Flores was standing pnwmom Apr 2019 #72

That's not a work place. Not a permanent place where the same people gather. LAS14 Apr 2019 #74

People's workplaces differ. Lots of people have jobs, like in sales, that don't involve having pnwmom Apr 2019 #75

+1 and there was no way he had a power differential treestar Apr 2019 #83

I'm really tired of it too vlyons Apr 2019 #76

Can we just let it go? We don't have to hate on other people or junk Biden. dawg day Apr 2019 #78

"people at an extreme end of a spectrum of social behavior"-Do you mean women?? 58Sunliner Apr 2019 #80

Baloney. Social touching goes on equally between the sexes and among the sexes. nt LAS14 Apr 2019 #82