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nolabear

(43,850 posts)
16. These are very real questions, and need to be answered.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 01:18 PM
Aug 2012

I get the desire to just take shots at the GOP, but you're exactly right; men can and do simply walk away, and women seldom do. And if they do, the duty for child care falls to their own mothers.

I suppose if the government fails us utterly then women will become even more of an underground society than we are now. We'll be the third world in the United States, living in the shadows whe we can and raising a whole lot of children who will function more and more poorly, including boys who become men who walk away because they don't know how to do otherwise (it's not just knowing what to do; it's having the ability to function in a world that has screwed you from before you were born and so not having biopsychosocial resources to help you be a good father and partner).

The problem is only barely addressable now. If the gov't. would start at the most basic level with good birth control education and accessability, good prenatal health care, good job training and child care options, good schools that teach kids and provide places for them to go after school, legalization of drugs so that the incentive to deal goes away and other options are necessary, support systems for both mothers and fathers so they can tolerate the stress of parenting, and in general a sense of inclusion for these people who feel no reason to invest in a society that has shut them out, then in thirty years we could have a much, much larger segment of the population that could get to that ideal the GOP likes to wave around.

But if you don't acknowledge how very crippling the current system is and just punish those who are injured by it for being injured, including the abandoning men and struggling women and deeply damaged children, if you take the shaming, condescending, holier-than-thou stance the Republicans do and believe that things will improve, not by work and sacrifice but by magic, then the future is dark indeed.

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Then it goes to a state by state fight Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #1
No, none of that will happen, because the whole point of outlawing abortion is to drive home the Brickbat Aug 2012 #2
What about about the slutty men who got them pregnant?? Heather MC Aug 2012 #4
They are powerless before the slutty, slutty women. Brickbat Aug 2012 #6
Well all I can say to that is, You have to have a hobby it keeps the mind alert! Heather MC Aug 2012 #9
Except if those slutty sluts take birth control they expect Rush Limbaugh to pay for lunatica Aug 2012 #25
You think they're going to stop with abortion? Warpy Aug 2012 #29
If they succeed in banning abortions . . . fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #30
And all this just because they're worried about the size of their tiny dicks lunatica Aug 2012 #34
indeed, even if they are married justabob Aug 2012 #11
And then they will make rape legal because men need sex after all! But those bad women should pay LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #26
The real answer to this is simple. hifiguy Aug 2012 #3
they're already doing that. cali Aug 2012 #8
only illegal aliens will have abortions. nt arely staircase Aug 2012 #5
They are very unlikely to outlaw abortion. They need this issue mobilize their Blue Meany Aug 2012 #7
FAIL. This isn't just to get out the base. They are dead serious about actually taking away rights. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #21
All good thoughtful questions.. thecrow Aug 2012 #10
Thanks, these questions have been on my mind for a while, since Heather MC Aug 2012 #14
You are awesome Heather MC! fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #31
Aww stop it I am a Cryer! Heather MC Aug 2012 #36
The Pro-preggers will issue every fertile female a dime and instructions on how to hold it between Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #12
If they make abortion illegal Aerows Aug 2012 #13
^^ THIS ^^ longship Aug 2012 #17
All great questions vankuria Aug 2012 #15
These are very real questions, and need to be answered. nolabear Aug 2012 #16
Then They go On to Ban Birth Control Too AndyTiedye Aug 2012 #18
I think they really hope that treestar Aug 2012 #19
A frightening scenario fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #33
Women with children will have no choice but to leave the workforce. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #20
What makes it especially bad is that they want to cut programs that we have Nikia Aug 2012 #22
Women will die. Usually in ugly painful ways. alphafemale Aug 2012 #23
Hell... abortion is legal, but not available in 87% of the counties in the US.... Bigmack Aug 2012 #24
I don't believe the Pugs want to get rid of abortion because of the child's life... Frustratedlady Aug 2012 #27
it if becomes illegal xmas74 Aug 2012 #28
I don't believe anyone is a fan of Abortion, but as you say it should be provided Heather MC Aug 2012 #38
Exactly. xmas74 Aug 2012 #39
It's Crazy that in 2012 this is what we need to be preparing our daughters for Heather MC Aug 2012 #40
This started almost as soon as Roe v. Wade was decided. xmas74 Aug 2012 #42
It's about controlling women Freddie Aug 2012 #32
This: proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #35
then it's back to back alley butchers, Carolina Aug 2012 #37
Unfortunately... me b zola Aug 2012 #41
Going back to the fifties when I was a teenager this is what happened. Cleita Aug 2012 #43
Then they cash in PD Turk Aug 2012 #44
THIS is what: Dead women. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #45
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