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83. There was no digital record back then....a leak now ...

Reply to jmellman (Reply #59)

Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:51 PM

Apr 2019

Would be caught in a hours/days. This is not the Pentagon Papers era or tech.

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OK peeps. AG Barr just testified he that he will not realease the full unredacted [View all] Ninga Apr 2019 OP

sooo, even congress will be kept in the dark spanone Apr 2019 #1

His strongly worded response said as much. Nt Ninga Apr 2019 #3

I doubt that will stand with Rep. Nadler. spanone Apr 2019 #4

Of course it won't. But so what? Ninga Apr 2019 #10

Nadler can call Mueller before his committee...ask him directly. spanone Apr 2019 #33

Yep. Until and waiting for that to happen, I reserve my opinion that we will never know all Ninga Apr 2019 #40

Mueller is unlikely to testify in an open hearing about secret grand jury testimony onenote Apr 2019 #45

he's likely to testify before congress, whether it's in the open or not is up to them. spanone Apr 2019 #47

His testifying and his disclosing secret grand jury testimony are different things onenote Apr 2019 #49

Nadler may get that court ruling....all speculation at this point....we will see. spanone Apr 2019 #52

Fuck it...impeach Barr... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #2

Here for two months and wreaking havoc on a two year expensive report making it unavailable notdarkyet Apr 2019 #19

Do you think we can get 17 repug senators to vote to convict? Wednesdays Apr 2019 #30

Really sick of this comment. Impeach anyway. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #61

"An Impeached President has never been re-elected." Codeine Apr 2019 #73

I'm stating that there is no precedent, so why do we think he'll gain support if it fails? maxsolomon Apr 2019 #74

I doubt we could get anywhere near 218 Democrats to vote to impeach in the first place n/t FBaggins Apr 2019 #75

it will be leaked... samnsara Apr 2019 #5

Until and if.......not confident it will happen. Grandpa Barr has the Dems under his thumb. Nt Ninga Apr 2019 #7

I'm not sure that releasing a completely unredacted report hughee99 Apr 2019 #6

He said no one. Including Congress. No one will see the full unredacted report. No one. Ninga Apr 2019 #9

Yes, and I'm saying I don't think that was ever one of the options. hughee99 Apr 2019 #13

What about Gang of 8? OneGrassRoot Apr 2019 #25

It's unlikely that anyone would in congress would get it all hughee99 Apr 2019 #34

The gang of 8 have security clearance. According to Barr, even they will not see the full Ninga Apr 2019 #44

A security clearance relates to classified information onenote Apr 2019 #46

A Fed judge can release all Grand Jury testimony. Barr said that right now he has no intention Ninga Apr 2019 #50

Exactly. None of the grand jury testimony is coming out unless and until a court rules on it. onenote Apr 2019 #51

Could Mueller request the GJ release the info? bluestarone Apr 2019 #69

No. They don't. FBaggins Apr 2019 #76

Given the near certainty of it being leaked, some redaction is ok with me Amishman Apr 2019 #31

I agree. The redactions should be minimal, and this will be leaked. hughee99 Apr 2019 #38

I have heard so many conflicting statements about who gets to see what. The Gang of 8 hear our Pepsidog Apr 2019 #43

Even if they have access to the national security info, hughee99 Apr 2019 #56

That's my question. I have heard differing accounts about who is entitled to see the entire report, Pepsidog Apr 2019 #60

In this case, since there was no indictment, I'm not sure hughee99 Apr 2019 #62

Good point. I think the only logical conclusion we can make about Mueller's punt is that he thought Pepsidog Apr 2019 #64

That does make sense. Someone above pointed out hughee99 Apr 2019 #65

The release has to be fit into an exception. Apparently, from what I read, the only exception that Pepsidog Apr 2019 #70

mueller cannot indict True Blue American Apr 2019 #82

Let's hope Pepsidog Apr 2019 #88

You are deflecting and misleading. triron Apr 2019 #53

You know what I said is true. hughee99 Apr 2019 #58

Now what? Nothing. That is what. The Mueller Report will become a footnote because our response is DontBooVote Apr 2019 #8

Aside from the legal avenues that our leadership is pursuing.... SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #11

Question: do our evil enemies use legal avenues? DontBooVote Apr 2019 #15

So we should participate in illegal measures? SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #17

So no fighting dirty for us. They steal away everything and we get hunted like animals. Great! DontBooVote Apr 2019 #21

We have a system of government. If we abandon that then we have no system of government at all. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #29

Our systems of government does not preclude civil engagement, civil demonstrations. Except Ninga Apr 2019 #32

But that's not what I was addressing. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #36

It's cowardice! Courage does not exist and people will allow this coup to succeed. DontBooVote Apr 2019 #37

I'm not now suggesting, nor have I ever suggested, anarchy. But sitting by and watching this happen DontBooVote Apr 2019 #35

Can you just answer my question? SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #39

Let me ask you a different question FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #71

So then you won't answer? SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #72

Elections might as well be canceled. Wisconsin kacekwl Apr 2019 #81

I don't think this sort of talk shpuld be allowed here. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #84

No, that "talking point" is to kacekwl Apr 2019 #86

You're still not answering the original question. bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #57

We could impeach him, but treestar Apr 2019 #89

Yep. notdarkyet Apr 2019 #23

Then it's time to grab pitchforks and take to the streets donkeypoofed Apr 2019 #12

Pah! There is a severe lack of courage on our side for that to happen. If you even mention such DontBooVote Apr 2019 #16

It is one thing for citizens to put on the pressure. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #22

I like you. I agree. notdarkyet Apr 2019 #24

The courage just does not exist. And we will continue to lose because of it. And, once their coup is DontBooVote Apr 2019 #26

Not going to happen. Calista241 Apr 2019 #67

Exactly. So What? It's power politics and we aren't in power. jalan48 Apr 2019 #14

To me that translates to "trump* is up to his bushy eyebrows in deep, legal ca ca" Siwsan Apr 2019 #18

Rep. Brenda Lawrence: Officially not having any of Bill Barr's shit. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2019 #20

Yep. More questions from her in round two. nt Ninga Apr 2019 #27

Mueller knows what is in the entire report Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #28

Congress can have public hearings gathering the same info from the same people. 33taw Apr 2019 #41

Can't the House just have Mueller testify in open hearing? davsand Apr 2019 #42

Mueller will not disclose secret grand jury testimony in an open hearing onenote Apr 2019 #48

I never expected that he would, at least not voluntarily. MineralMan Apr 2019 #54

Well, now he has said it out loud and in public. Yet we all "expected" he wouldn't and now what? Ninga Apr 2019 #55

Not necessarily. This is a new phase in the situation. MineralMan Apr 2019 #66

Pentagon Papers time jmellman Apr 2019 #59

There was no digital record back then....a leak now ... AncientGeezer Apr 2019 #83

Things that make my blood boil ? RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2019 #63

This is what I've suspected from the beginning. The Mueller investigation was another exercise in CentralMass Apr 2019 #68

This coverup is the grand conspiracy of the century. Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #77

he can refuse a congressional subpoena, be found in contemp,be impeached..... beachbum bob Apr 2019 #78

Now what? Impeach tRump. Joe941 Apr 2019 #79

It will need to go to the courts but there are no guarantees tymorial Apr 2019 #80

Barr will end up in prison duforsure Apr 2019 #85

Would love that, but I'm not holding my breath. n/t woodsprite Apr 2019 #87