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reACTIONary

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29. As a one of those "idiotic free speach" extremists ....
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:09 PM
Apr 2019

.... that paleotn seems to think is a threat to life and limb, I can assure you I think everything is fine on DU. But what standard is paleotn advocating? Presumably much less tolerant of others than what is allowed for now.

Why should someone who has "power and influence" be legally prohibited from saying anything that anyone else is allowed to say? And if such a person actually does have more "power and influence" than others, what practical means might exist for outlawing his speech rather than ours? In actual fact, it is those who are influential and powerful who would be deciding who can speak and what can be said - as a means of oppression to increase their power and influence. THEY wouldn't be the ones suffering.

As an example, consider our right to desecrate and burn an American flag in public as a protest. This is considered by many (quite possibly a majority) to be an incitement to violence that requires retaliation both immediate and legal. And, having burned an American flag, I can tell you that it is provocative - that's one of the reasons for doing it. BUT, even so, it is my RIGHT as an American to burn an American flag. Would you take that right from me?

Don't kid yourself, eroding first amendment rights won't work in our favor or help protect minorities and the oppressed. Quite the opposite. Loosening up those standards would be used as a pretext to shutdown sites like DU. I doubt it would be used against those who are opposed to us.

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The hornets were Christian! What did they do to deserve this?? unblock Apr 2019 #1
If you or someone you know is feeling persecuted crazytown Apr 2019 #13
Christianity is not the only religion that harbors bigots. scrutineer Apr 2019 #2
Where can I buy those pinatas? AZ8theist Apr 2019 #3
Yes, and we do need the pollinators. defacto7 Apr 2019 #14
Why is it... paleotn Apr 2019 #4
Yes, exactly, and you said it so well cp Apr 2019 #10
As a civil libertarian... reACTIONary Apr 2019 #11
If my speech incites others to physically harm you paleotn Apr 2019 #16
Great! Thanks! Now I know... reACTIONary Apr 2019 #24
I'm confused about your statement... defacto7 Apr 2019 #15
Donald J Trump. paleotn Apr 2019 #17
I see and agree with you. defacto7 Apr 2019 #21
Before you agree, you might want to review... reACTIONary Apr 2019 #27
And what standard of behaviour that would shut DU down defacto7 Apr 2019 #28
As a one of those "idiotic free speach" extremists .... reACTIONary Apr 2019 #29
Donald J Trump is certianly NOT a freespeach advocate.... reACTIONary Apr 2019 #25
The innocent hornets don't deserve to be a part of this IronLionZion Apr 2019 #5
Poutrage almost always catches the pouter short. marble falls Apr 2019 #6
"Poutrage" MontanaMama Apr 2019 #7
I don't get it. Except that it's wrong to harm the hornets w/o cause. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #8
If God allows you to be stung safeinOhio Apr 2019 #9
Chinese Hornets! Quick slap a tariff on them. crazytown Apr 2019 #12
Curses! Foiled Again! MineralMan Apr 2019 #18
Excellent!!! calimary Apr 2019 #19
(Do we know what the second poster's position is on other things?) TimeToGo Apr 2019 #20
Self pWn of the Week, right there. LudwigPastorius Apr 2019 #22
Pretty funny. PatrickforO Apr 2019 #23
That post is the bees knees! Blue Owl Apr 2019 #26
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