My conversation with a pro-life friend today...

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60. That's the one the fundies base their belief on:

Psalm 139:13-16 (NKJV)

13 For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them.

So they believe God is involved in the womb, too. That is their belief, not everyone's. And the fundie way of looking at this would have more credence if many did not support the death penalty, wars, starving and stigmatizing the poor and the immigrant. The Bible was very specific on that matter, but they pick and choose.

Their vehemence on abortion is irresponsible, but if they supported a social democracy which creates an equality of outcome for all the people they victimize now, they'd appear less hypocritical.

The other belief with breath, is also applied to stop people being kept alive on ventilators. Natural death, they call it, which sadly is how they see the death of the mother from pregnancy gone bad.

Many have returned to breathing by medical means that recovered to live long lives after accidents. I was brought back to life by CPR in my twenties from a work accident. My child and I would have died in birth without intervention. I've nearly died in surgery. I lived to work and parent and do many things that I would not have done without modern medicine.

I wouldn't be willing to kept alive in a vegetative state, and am not eager to ever be resuscitated again. People have brains to use and we've created the means to save lives but we are not applying them equally.

Fundies toss that to God, when it really is their responsibility. The charity aspect they use to absolve themselves of their duty is not honest when they advocate destroying social services for people they don't know, will never meet, and probably don't like at all.

The idea of government standing in the role of god comes in there. Social services administered without discrimination is more just and equal than people are.