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AdamGG

(1,880 posts)
15. I don't consider it a "shenanigan"
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:36 PM
Apr 2019

I like having the option to vote in either primary and use my vote to help put out the biggest fire. In 2000, to me, trying to eliminate Bush was far more important than whether the Democratic nominee was Gore or Bradley (especially since it was obviously going to be Gore no matter what I did).

Historically, it has had a BIG effect when an incumbent President loses a primary. Lyndon Johnson getting roughed up by Eugene McCarthy, Ford getting challenged by Reagan, Carter and Ted Kennedy, Bush, Sr. and Pat Buchanan - Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft. If Weld gets any traction and publicity on the stump attacking Trump, it will further weaken him for the general election. That won't just affect whether Trump wins or loses, but possibly the margin by which he loses, and the down ballot coattails the Democrats could have to win state legislatures and undo gerrymandering.

When the primary comes, a year from now, I may not cross over. But, if I like a number of the Democratic candidates equally and I see that Weld is polling in the 40's in my state and I could help put him over the top and have Fox and everyone airing his criticisms of Trump before the general election even starts, it might be hard to resist.

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Never. FM123 Apr 2019 #1
Nope. n/t ornotna Apr 2019 #2
Not a chance. n/t GP6971 Apr 2019 #3
Yes Laurelin Apr 2019 #4
Exactly what I meant AdamGG Apr 2019 #8
In the past I've only voted in such a manner...... Jim_Pridx Apr 2019 #25
I did this once ... moonscape Apr 2019 #36
I might even donate to Bill Weld if it would weaken AnusMouth. lastlib Apr 2019 #16
Not a fucking chance in Hell. I don't care for either of them and neither of them scare me ... marble falls Apr 2019 #5
I don't consider it a "shenanigan" AdamGG Apr 2019 #15
There's a fair amount of rationalization in that. Voting in a primarey for a candiate and a party .. marble falls Apr 2019 #17
I understand your point, but I do think that Weld is infinitely better than Trump AdamGG Apr 2019 #21
Never. Iggo Apr 2019 #6
no mulsh Apr 2019 #7
Never occurred to me. ancianita Apr 2019 #9
Depends on where the Dems are. If someone I especially like is neck and neck... LAS14 Apr 2019 #10
Never. And thankfully Florida has closed primaries. GulfCoast66 Apr 2019 #11
Not exactly true. Only REGISTERED Democrats may vote for Dems... Lucid Dreamer Apr 2019 #22
No, because I believe it would be counter-productive & would help Republicans. CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #12
I don't think there's a chance of Weld becoming the nominee, though AdamGG Apr 2019 #24
No. area51 Apr 2019 #13
I am especially grateful to Weld because this means fewer R's will be tempted to cross over pnwmom Apr 2019 #14
A good point. Also, if Weld gains steam, Repubs will have to spend more time and money on the spooky3 Apr 2019 #27
This is a Democratic website. We don't support Republicans. TeamPooka Apr 2019 #18
I live in a state where this is simple also (IL) but for one issue. dogman Apr 2019 #19
I've voted Republican in primaries before, to forestall a particularly evil candidate . . . Journeyman Apr 2019 #20
"Particularly evil candidate" is part of my reasoning AdamGG Apr 2019 #23
It might be enticing if Weld (or anyone else) is at 20% or so. That might be enough . . . Journeyman Apr 2019 #26
I agree. I was just trying to be alliterative with the 4's. AdamGG Apr 2019 #28
Exactly! Jim_Pridx Apr 2019 #29
California's not quite open primary Retrograde Apr 2019 #30
Thanks for the info . . . Journeyman Apr 2019 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Retrograde Apr 2019 #31
Hmmm, where did we hear this before? Oh yeah-- Nader/Gore. Not just no but HELL NO. Hekate Apr 2019 #32
But that was the general election. Nader wasn't running in the R primary against GW Bush AdamGG Apr 2019 #34
I also did this to vote for McCain in the New Hampshire primary that year. Chemisse Apr 2019 #33
Weld is not a serious candidate, you would be wasting your vote. tritsofme Apr 2019 #37
As someone else pointed out already, you are skating on very thin ice here. We don't vote for GOP Hekate Apr 2019 #38
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