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muriel_volestrangler

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22. Aaarrggghh! There is nothing in the abstract of the paper about Stonehenge
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 01:01 PM
Apr 2019

It seems to be a study of the entire British population after 4000BC, not the area of Stonehenge.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-019-0871-9

The roles of migration, admixture and acculturation in the European transition to farming have been debated for over 100 years. Genome-wide ancient DNA studies indicate predominantly Aegean ancestry for continental Neolithic farmers, but also variable admixture with local Mesolithic hunter-gatherers. Neolithic cultures first appear in Britain circa 4000 BC, a millennium after they appeared in adjacent areas of continental Europe. The pattern and process of this delayed British Neolithic transition remain unclear. We assembled genome-wide data from 6 Mesolithic and 67 Neolithic individuals found in Britain, dating 8500–2500 BC. Our analyses reveal persistent genetic affinities between Mesolithic British and Western European hunter-gatherers. We find overwhelming support for agriculture being introduced to Britain by incoming continental farmers, with small, geographically structured levels of hunter-gatherer ancestry. Unlike other European Neolithic populations, we detect no resurgence of hunter-gatherer ancestry at any time during the Neolithic in Britain. Genetic affinities with Iberian Neolithic individuals indicate that British Neolithic people were mostly descended from Aegean farmers who followed the Mediterranean route of dispersal. We also infer considerable variation in pigmentation levels in Europe by circa 6000 BC.

I'm pissed off the BBC is making this sound as if it's tied to Stonehenge. Here's a write-up by scientists, who are talking about farming, not Stonehenge:

Natural History Museum postdoctoral researcher Dr Tom Booth says: 'We looked at the genetic ancestry of human remains from both before and after 6,000 years ago - so some dating to the Mesolithic and some to the Neolithic - to see if we can characterise any changes, as soon as these Neolithic cultures start to arrive, we see a big change in the ancestry of the British population. It looks like the development of farming and these Neolithic cultures was mainly driven by the migration of people from mainland Europe.'

From the DNA analysis the researchers were able to reveal that most of the hunter-gatherer population of Britain were replaced by those carrying ancestry originating in the Aegean, where farming cultures are thought to have spread from after beginning in the Near East.

Professor Ian Barnes, ancient DNA expert at the Natural History Museum and co-author of the study, said: ‘Because continental farmer populations had mixed to some extent with local hunter-gatherers as they expanded along both the Mediterranean and Rhine-Danube corridors, as well as later, we expected to see some mixing in Britain as well.’

Indeed it is now understood that populations of early Neolithic cultures would have travelled from the Aegean coast in Turkey bringing farming and the specific cultures that went with it, such as new funerary rites and pottery, and spread them across much of Western Europe along the two main corridors of the Mediterranean Sea and the Rhine-Danube axis of Central Europe.

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/press-office/press-releases/ancient-dna-shows-migrants-introduced-farming-to-britain-from-eu.html

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Thanks for the link! Talitha Apr 2019 #1
In those days, they were called Moores, I think? lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #2
Not 6,000 years ago. I wondered about Egyptian training though. nt Hekate Apr 2019 #3
That's an interesting thought. Silver Gaia Apr 2019 #6
Anatolia region of Turkey is home to the oldest Neolithic structures in the world Amishman Apr 2019 #12
Many thanks; I knew I should have gone looking for a better answer. Hekate Apr 2019 #21
Othello was a Moore... SeattleVet Apr 2019 #4
This was about 5,000 years before the Moors. Silver Gaia Apr 2019 #5
Mary Tyler Moore is a Moore. You mean the Moors (los Moros). DFW Apr 2019 #9
Actually it is Moops Takket Apr 2019 #13
LOL malaise Apr 2019 #14
I am currently reading an excellent book on the subject and recommend it highly: Tanuki Apr 2019 #17
Holy shit! jcgoldie Apr 2019 #18
Moors were black... HipChick Apr 2019 #15
I do think so. In the ancient artwork, one can see nubians looking different from the Karadeniz Apr 2019 #32
They weren't called anything at all in any currently existing language. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #24
That won't go down well with Brexiters ! OnDoutside Apr 2019 #7
From Anatolia (Turkey) RandiFan1290 Apr 2019 #8
Yup, first thing I thought of. nt DLevine Apr 2019 #10
The mobility of peoples and their technology goes back amazingly far DFW Apr 2019 #11
It is amazing, isn't it. MineralMan Apr 2019 #16
These migrations were probably related to the Ice Ages FakeNoose Apr 2019 #19
This migration was during the Neolithic, thousands of years after the retreat of the glaciers. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #25
People don't need to move much for DNA to travel, though jberryhill Apr 2019 #26
When the DNA shift is sudden and massive Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #29
Your honor, I have no idea how my DNA got there jberryhill Apr 2019 #30
It reminds me of the later Chaco Culture in America. hunter Apr 2019 #23
Immigrants get it done mainer Apr 2019 #20
Aaarrggghh! There is nothing in the abstract of the paper about Stonehenge muriel_volestrangler Apr 2019 #22
Yes it is atrocious sensationalist reporting jberryhill Apr 2019 #27
Stonehenge was built by Mexican immigrants. kwassa Apr 2019 #33
Thank you for the clarification. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #28
If you Google "Stonehenge" right now, EVERYTHING that comes up Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #31
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